Who else can he play at wing back today?
Amad had to play 10 because Bruno was suspended. Shaw is a crock and Malacia is a total waste of space.
Mazraoui is better at RCB but left or right I think Dalot is a garbage footballer.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Who else can he play at wing back today?
Amad had to play 10 because Bruno was suspended. Shaw is a crock and Malacia is a total waste of space.
Mazraoui is better at RCB but left or right I think Dalot is a garbage footballer.
FIrst we need wingbacks/fullbacks either way. The ones we have suck anyway. So it isnt a completely different signing we need to make. Someone like Mendes can even play in a back four. Also there is no point in having Amorim and planning for someone after him. Makes no sense. Might as well let him go instead of spending money on more unnecessary players. If he is here, you got to back him somehow. That doesnt mean going out and getting everyone he asks for. But again a Mendes, a Ederson etc. can play in a 4 or 3 at the back. So smart signings like that have to be made.
And do what? The problem is the players not the manager.
Both.
He needs to stop the left backs and right backs at wing backs.
It really hurts us in the attack.
It really hurts us in the attack.
Again youve brought up one player and said he would have made all the difference from the start. THe answer is no. And Garnacho was just as bad as Zirkzee after coming on. We didnt energy or running from him after he came on.
I mean, Gasperini also schooled Klopp.
So why then shit on only the manager?
How do you do that? They aren't committed, some are done physically and all now lack confidence. If we agree that the squad is poor, it shouldn't shock anyone when it loses to a physical side like Newcastle.
He has his faults where he has to shoulder part of the blame but we shouldn't lose sight of where this mess was authored - the Ineos boardroom. How do people keep a manager they have no faith in and the proceed to hand £200m over to him, after seeing him waste £400m? To then bring in a new manager, with a new system midseason was just compounding issues.
Amorim won't survive the season but, make no mistake, we are done as a competitive force for a long time because replacing Ten Hag's garbage, in this PSR era, will take ages.
I think you can have a right footed left back in a 4, but a right footed wingback on the left is absolute dead weight.
And our wingers have been utterly befuddled by trying to play centrally.
Addin project centre forwards and it's a real mess.
No Bruno and Ugarte certainly didn't help tonight though.
I'll note this and see if you jump on the bandwagon the minute it starts to turn.
Sorry that I'm not willing to completely write Amorim off after 6 weeks and a handful of sessions with his players.
Accepting relegation is giving up and we are steamrolling towards that battle.
Imo if we cant get 2-3 players to help implement this setup then get rid of it until the summer. Most of these are not our future anyways and they will be sold so why invest so much in these?
Get the players in the summer and use the preseason to start afresh. This bunch is uncoachable!
Good post
Confirmed on sky just now that we are in a relegation battle.
Amorim gets visibly pissed off when we're in a 5-4-1 shape, and it wasn't really how sporting played, so I don't think he is instructing them to do so outside of niche scenarios
Sink or swim.
Let’s be patient.
New year, we might start turn around.
Let’s be patient.
New year, we might start turn around.
Bold stuff , he said if the club want to change the system he is playing they will have to sack him first.
You don't like to throw baseless comments around but are desperate to talk about us being relegated. Bless.
Gasperini wouldn't join us in a month of Sundays - but you might be in with a chance.
We have only played pragmatic football three times in the past decade. José Mourinho up until it all exploded because the board refused to sign a centreback and sell Martial, Ole up until his last season and Ten Hag first season. In those seasons where we have been the most pragmatic we finished 2nd and third before we completely fecked up recruitment for one reason or other.
In the end it doesn't matter, because the only way we can fix this squad is if we can sell and buy players. We can't do that if we finish bottom of the league and every 70M player we buy is a dud that can't be sold on.
He has to survive the next few months to be able to do that though. We can all hope he will be given a war chest in January, but that never happens.
He has to get a couple of players in Jan and also learn more about the players. We have so many that are too old and too young, there's not much in the squad you can turn to, you have to be spot on man for man until we improve the squad.
Said before Case Eriksen would be fine against much weaker sides but Newcastle are very strong. Amorim corrected his mistakes but the damage was done, we needed a much stronger start and Martinez has been so dozy and passive in many games now. Our start was like some friendly warmup before a match.
Amad seems a must at wing back if we're going to make his system work and add another in Jan. It was breaking apart in the first half when our defenders had the ball high up. Maz just didn't know what to do in front of the 18 yard box and another situation where the ball fell to him for a nothing shot, you just want that falling to someone else. Also think Amad can be helped by showing up in various positions as a wb to lose markers and get onto players to nick a ball. Right now he can be marked and handled easily being our only attack player with form this season. Maybe in time he can player right side of attack.
Said before Case Eriksen would be fine against much weaker sides but Newcastle are very strong. Amorim corrected his mistakes but the damage was done, we needed a much stronger start and Martinez has been so dozy and passive in many games now. Our start was like some friendly warmup before a match.
Amad seems a must at wing back if we're going to make his system work and add another in Jan. It was breaking apart in the first half when our defenders had the ball high up. Maz just didn't know what to do in front of the 18 yard box and another situation where the ball fell to him for a nothing shot, you just want that falling to someone else. Also think Amad can be helped by showing up in various positions as a wb to lose markers and get onto players to nick a ball. Right now he can be marked and handled easily being our only attack player with form this season. Maybe in time he can player right side of attack.
Dude just stop with your ludicrous amount of negativity. Sure im pissed we lost to. Yes we are closer to relegation than top 6. But are we going to get relegated? Obviously not. Are we going to be in a relegation battle? Again no.
Mate, stop holding your phone upside down. That will tell you the real position of Utd on the table.
how do you possibly confirm something like this? HERE WE GO Man Utd in relegation battle confirmed?We've had them in previous games still got losses and played rubbish - that's my point
We will have them for Liverpool and Arsenal, and we all know we're losing
I seriously given up with first 11's and what not, because we have players who don't play we're rubbish, they come in and we're still rubbish. something needs to give and honestly that's a whole new set of players. with the likes of Amad, Gernacho and Kobbie being where they belong as squad rotation for development under a team of big experienced players like in our successful years.
Amorim said it.
Has RA spoke to the media yet?
We never did and this is rewriting history.
Our xG under ETH was never ever top 4 throughout an extended period.
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with adapting once you're presented with presented with fresh evidence. I don't think anyone anticipated it would go this badly.
Much better to admit that you were wrong than carry on with something that clearly isn't working.
Sky reporter asked Amorim and be said yes.
Did you have your cry yet that you mentioned earlier? There's some seriously pathetic people on here I swear.
I want to be patient but why has he done the following:
Start a midfield three of Cas, Zirkzee and Erickson against the most athletic midfield in the league.
Start Martinez constantly when clearly he’s the aerial weak link week after week.
Drop both Garnacho and Rashford when we’ve not scored in 3 games now.
Have a few things working like Amad at RWB, Mazraoui at CB and then change it to a losing formula.
Early mistakes are mind boggling.
Start a midfield three of Cas, Zirkzee and Erickson against the most athletic midfield in the league.
Start Martinez constantly when clearly he’s the aerial weak link week after week.
Drop both Garnacho and Rashford when we’ve not scored in 3 games now.
Have a few things working like Amad at RWB, Mazraoui at CB and then change it to a losing formula.
Early mistakes are mind boggling.
I haven't said that but it's no big deal.
Amorim got it wrong tonight, you don't have to defend that. The guy admitted it himself by changing it so quickly.
Amorim said it.
Not sure what games you were watching.
The next two matches against Arsenal and Liverpool will be more of the same, if we go out of the FA Cup it has the potential to give him more training sessions and much needed time actually drilling the system. It will be a slog between now and the end of January however, we will start to see something more positive, consistently around March imo. Between now and then the odd good result will be had, but there will be more blips.
So again you still havent got an idea about two other positions. You keep banging on about Mainoo, which I agreed to anway. Who are these other options who would have changed the game from the start?
This is my take as well. A culture of unaccountability and complacency runs through this club, and the team. We’ve amassed slow, weak, unintelligent, and unmotivated players, who are here for the colossal pay check and the luxuries and opportunities that being a United player brings. Exhausting following this team at the moment.
Lets be honest us in a supposed relegation battle even if its for a week is a goldmine for the media isn't it. They're going to milk this idea dry.