Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach | Locked during matches

[Redstain]

How the feck has it got so bad so quickly??!

The early signs were positive, wtf happened?

Playing the fullbacks as wingbacks has cost United games where the team was expected to win.

Alongside upsetting the balance of what's actually worked Mazouroi was outstanding as the right sided center back at the beginning.

Rashford despite his petulance was still scoring goals and remains the teams most threatening player behind Amad even if he's half bothered.

So many games has been lost on the back of player selection. It's a system where the mis profiling of players in specific positions magnifies the overall impact on the performance.

Then lastly, one thing we likely aren't attributing is the players losing confidence due to poor results, naturally it will cause them to both doubt themselves and the manager.

 

[Andycoleno9]

His biggest, and i mean by far biggest mistake was changing back 3(5) every game. It is obvious that our best back 3 are Maz-De Ligt- Yoro.
He changed back 3 nearly every game. With new system first thing which needs to be settled is defence. Then come everything else.

 

[Forevergiggs1]

I don't think we've got the determination needed to get relegated. Everton have actively been trying for about five years now and just can't manage it.

 

[Lash]

RedCafe - we must rip-up EtHs work and start again, it'll be painful but it needs to be done and we'll support Amorim through it

RedCafe when we lose a few games - his system doesn't work and he needs to go

I mean all he did tonight was play a ten hag eqsue side, with 3 CBs, and we still looked shit. He can't just let us sink like a stone based on his principles.

We've conceded 7 and scored 0 in the last 3 games, two of which were at home and one against a relegation side. He has to improve us in some aspect, or we literally will be in the relegation spots.

 

[Chip]

He’s the right manager but this is a big change, doing this change mid season when we were already struggling is a mistake

He wanted to cone in the summer but was told now or never. Should have got him locked down for next season and give Ruud a contract as interim till the summer

Maybe a bit early? Not writing him off, but let’s see. People praised EtH as the second coming of Jesus and see how that went.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

Quality post here.

I hope he turns it around and obviously he gets lots of time.

But this is shambles. Really really bad. What do you think? We haven't once played well under him. He wants some weird formation that could take 2 years to get the players for.

Only a January transfer of epic proportions can safe this.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Stop being a hysterical baby. How old are you?

There's more chance of us winning the league than getting relegated.

Have you even looked at the table? What a braindead response. We cant buy a win these days. We have just lost 3 home games in a row. We are going to lose against Liverpool. We will be only 4-7 points ahead of relegation.

Thats not me fabricating things, just take a look at the fecking table.

 

[erikcred]

It’s just stating the obvious that Amorim may not be good enough, everyone knows that. But we do know these players we’ve watched for years aren’t good enough.

Fair enough, mate. Just frustrated at the shocking first half.

 

[PepG]

Everybody is talking about 3-4-3 but in reality your system is 5-4-1 most of the time in the games and it shows. Amorim's set up is too defensive and the lack of proper attacking play just kills whatever plan you have for the different matches.. something needs to change asap or the things can turn really ugly for United..

 

[Crackers]

I don't think we've got the determination needed to get relegated. Everton have actively been trying for about five years now and just can't manage it.

 

[Lentwood]

He's lost 5 of his last 6 league games and we've got Liverpool at Anfield coming up.

We have not scored a goal in something like 270 minutes of football, while conceding 7.

There aren't many positives to draw from that.

He wouldn't have lost 5 of his last 6 if he'd "done a Ruud" and stuck a 4-2-3-1 middle block in...but you all (yes, all) said you didn't want that and you wanted it ripped up and restarted mid-season.

 

[Adz_99]

I agree that he shouldn't have been brought in mid-season, but I'm assuming Berrada got wind City may have been sniffing around as a potential Pep replacement and decided to move quickly.

Ten Hag should've obviously been sacked at seasons end and given the new manager an entire summer to build his squad with new players and not buy dross like Zirkzee.

I actually think bringing him in immediately was a good thing. Gives him 9 months to find his feet, experiment with the squad and get a good idea of what's needed in the summer. It's better than having the ropey bedding in period at the start of next season and writing that one off as well.

He's kind of got a free hit for the rest of this season.

 

[Sandikan]

Just fyi the Ruud obsession here is ridiculous, he played mostly easier opposition and those games were boring and still had problems. Also, no Ugarte today, does that mean Ruud will struggle? Let's be real if you're watching the game formation isn't a problem when the players are not even doing the absolute basics, the passing is atrocious - it's the exact same we've been witnessing it for so long

There's no guarantee at all he'd be doing well in games that aren't Leicester at home.

BUT, could you see anyone having us look worse right now?

 

[Judas]

Have you even looked at the table? What a braindead response. We cant buy a win these days. We have just lost 3 home games in a row. We are going to lose against Liverpool. We will be only 4-7 points ahead of relegation.

Thats not me fabricating things, just take a look at the fecking table.

You do realise how many points are left to play for, and how many points are usually required to stay up? Or do you just prefer being hysterical?

 

[The Irish Connection]

Has to start getting results. A relegation fight isn't acceptable.
We can't score, we are conceding calamity goals every match and we're terrible at set pieces.
I really want him to succeed but some worrying signs.

 

[Waynne]

We've given the guy rotten old chicken shit and expected him to make a delicious chicken tikka masala out of it.

With a midfield past it sell by date, it makes complete sense

 

[#07]

Then he shouldn't have been brought in. Why the feck would he come in and apply a system he doesn't know just to change it in the summer.

Clubs a load of wank.

Hard to disagree with any of this.

INEOS coming in was meant to mark the end of lurching from one approach to another with no progression plan.

It hasn't.

Our squad and our first team coach are like oil and water. That should have been clear. But we still chucked them together.

Not too different from anything we have done in the last decade.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

Why is everyone shitting on the manager but not the players?

Because we are getting worse. Dominated at home routinely. We have not played well under him yet.

 

[Ayoba]

Everybody is talking about 3-4-3 but in reality your system is 5-4-1 most of the time in the games and it shows. Amorim's set up is too defensive and the lack of proper attacking play just kills whatever plan you have for the different matches.. something needs to change asap or the things can turn really ugly for United.

Agree, it's far too defensive and and it's completely the wrong formation with the players we have. He's too stubborn to change formation so I hope he finds a solution quickly, otherwise it's ta ta bye bye.

 

[DJBillRemfry]

West Ham was being linked with this fella some time ago and his name was mentioned for months before by all the football hipsters who are always wrong.

Watched Gasperini of Atalanta completely school him.

 

[Sandikan]

I actually think bringing him in immediately was a good thing. Gives him 9 months to find his feet, experiment with the squad and get a good idea of what's needed in the summer. It's better than having the ropey bedding in period at the start of next season and writing that one off as well.

He's kind of got a free hit for the rest of this season.

He really doesn't. Lose a few more like tonight and the pressure will ramp to huge levels.

Do you think the board would sit idly by if we're suddenly looking over our shoulder in 4th bottom?

 

[the_cliff]

Everybody is talking about 3-4-3 but in reality your system is 5-4-1 most of the time in the games and it shows. Amorim's set up is too defensive and the lack of proper attacking play just kills whatever plan you have for the different matches.. something needs to change asap or the things can turn really ugly for United..

Mate we've finished on negative goal difference the last 2 seasons and are now in negative goal difference again. This isn't something new. We weren't exactly prime MSN before we made the switch to 3-4-3.

 

[RDCR07]

Mainoo. The guy who instantly made it better.

Amorim got it wrong tonight with the CM and how quickly he changed it shows that.

At least he knows now.

You do know there were 3 positions we needed help with tonight right? No Bruno means we needed a #10. No Ugarte means we a #6. I understand Mainoo should have started but what about the other 2 positions?

 

[Shane88]

Stop being a hysterical baby. How old are you?

There's more chance of us winning the league than getting relegated.

This rah-rah chest thumping looks so stupid when you actually looked at the numbers on the table and see how we're performing.

 

[RDCR07]

Because we are getting worse. Dominated at home routinely. We have not played well under him yet.

And thats not down to the players at all? Only the manager?

 

[flappyjay]

Why is everyone shitting on the manager but not the players?

Because our lot are midtable shit and he has them playing relegation levels of shit.

 

[Drainy]

RedCafe - we must rip-up EtHs work and start again, it'll be painful but it needs to be done and we'll support Amorim through it

RedCafe when we lose a few games - his system doesn't work and he needs to go

And go back the the system ETH implemented!

It doesn't matter if we play 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3 or tried a 4-3-3.. it's a mix of issues throughout the squad, the confidence, quality, athleticism and effort

 

[Lentwood]

Have you even looked at the table? What a braindead response. We cant buy a win these days. We have just lost 3 home games in a row. We are going to lose against Liverpool. We will be only 4-7 points ahead of relegation.

Thats not me fabricating things, just take a look at the fecking table.

So what, then? Give up immediately? Bring back EtH? Bring back OGS? Bring back good old Fergie?

The club has paid for weak-willed, spineless thinking for over a decade. No time for it now, a course has been set, you don't wuss out after 6 weeks because we lose a few games.

 

[Blood Mage]

West Ham was being linked with this fella some time ago and his name was mentioned for months before by all the football hipsters who are always wrong.

Watched Gasperini of Atalanta completely school him.

Calm down your gaffer is shite too. But yeah it's looking like we have made another mistake.

 

[Dinghy]

If he can't be pragmatic at all, he'll be without a job very soon. It's pure insanity to keep playing these players in this formation and expect a better outcome.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

You do realise how many points are left to play for, and how many points are usually required to stay up? Or do you just prefer being hysterical?

I prefer to see things the way they are and not throw baseless comments like “higher chance of winning the league than getting relegated”

 

[Marwood]

You do know there were 3 positions we needed help with tonight right? No Bruno means we needed a #10. No Ugarte means we a #6. I understand Mainoo should have started but what about the other 2 positions?

But you saw the difference Mainoo alone made right?

And although far from perfect you play Garnacho over Zirkzee. You at least get energy and running then.

 

[Moston Red]

Have you even looked at the table? What a braindead response. We cant buy a win these days. We have just lost 3 home games in a row. We are going to lose against Liverpool. We will be only 4-7 points ahead of relegation.

Thats not me fabricating things, just take a look at the fecking table.

We could win against Liverpool, crazier things have happened. You’re probably right though!

 

[The holy trinity 68]

Not good enough, needs to start being more pragmatic.

 

[Castia]

Maybe a bit early? Not writing him off, but let’s see. People praised EtH as the second coming of Jesus and see how that went.

Nah he’s the manager I wanted well before he was even linked. These players, the club culture, the standards set inside the dressing room is a complete cesspool it’s not a massive shock that a guy coming in wanting to tear it all apart is struggling

Clear these losers out, get the right players in and we have a chance. Time and time again this lot have let the club down I don’t want to see another manager go

 

[rooneyberbatov]

 

[RuudTom83]

Casemiro/Eriksen midfield was ridiculous. But he didn’t have Ugarte or Bruno so it was just a matter of pick 2 from Casemiro, Eriksen or Mainoo.

Which I’m not gonna hang him for.

 

[Bocca9978]

I don't think we've got the determination needed to get relegated. Everton have actively been trying for about five years now and just can't manage it.

Great post

 

[DJBillRemfry]

Calm down your gaffer is shite too. But yeah it's looking like we have made another mistake.

We know.

 

[Xaviboy]

I would of liking to see some improvement in our play. OK we keep ball bit better but no much going forward.

Not like we are knocking on the door and creating clear cut chances in our matches.

We play like we are lower league club going in to a big cup match against bigger and better teams/clubs.

Very worried for the club at this moment of time.

He needs a huge transfer kitty going in to Jan if he has any chance.