Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

ha_rooney said:
He needs to go back to playing at least one winger at the WB role. Not sure why he’s gone more defensive. It’s not worked.
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Yeah, but I think he's too worried about the CBs playing down the channels. The squads just so poorly set up for this system.

To have an attacking winger at WB, you need a fast CB to defend his channel and you need 2 rock solid midfielders.
 
Ayoba said:
Agreed.

Losses against Liverpool and arsenal are expected, but soton really is they key one. Lose and he's gone
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Depends on the nature of the defeats. If Liverpool hit us for 6 and Arsenal for 5 then...
 
Still fully behind him, far more than the players, but my god he got it wrong tonight playing the two pensioners in the middle. Especially when you consider Newcastles strengths
 
Foolsgold21 said:
Still fully behind him, far more than the players, but my god he got it wrong tonight playing the two pensioners in the middle. Especially when you consider Newcastles strengths
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I wish he just stuck Collyer or whoever there. At this point playing Eriksen and Casemiro is completely counter productive.
 
Garnacho does nothing in this formation, it's absolutely killed one of our only attackers
 
Can’t defend, can’t attack, can’t sustain any sort of pressure, can’t keep the ball. It’s no wonder we can’t beat anyone.

You can’t come in and lose every single game.
 
What exactly is the breaking point with amorim? surely we won't allow it to get to the point where we get dragged into a relegation battle
 
If anyone remembers the stats from last season, we were performing like a bottom half side. We got insanely lucky and finished 8th instead. So this isn’t a major surprise but he has to find an alternative with regards to tactics or he’ll go too.
 
I still don't think he'll manage the team next season but it's not entirely his fault, he's responsible for the poor results but there's a multitude of factors.

The biggest issue is the current circumstances needs a game model that the middle east would develop where you can bring in an influx of players in one window. INEOS don't come across as having the resources to accommodate such a drastic change over the short term.

INEOS ultimately created this predicament, so you have to question their strategic capacity.
 
Surely he will have to swallow his pride and change things. He now needs to get the most of what he has available. Which is normal for any new manager coming in mid season.

They get into the club try and stabilise things then after implement new ideas

He seems to have approached it all backwards and it’s very concerning.
 
Atheist said:
If anyone remembers the stats from last season, we were performing like a bottom half side. We got insanely lucky and finished 8th instead. So this isn’t a major surprise but he has to find an alternative with regards to tactics or he’ll go too.
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Not really, we were getting results whilst playing poorly with a non-fit squad. It was really the end of the season were we eventually faded away completely.

We looked on course to play for top 4 for a big part of the season, it is totally different to what is going on now.
 
Atheist said:
If anyone remembers the stats from last season, we were performing like a bottom half side. We got insanely lucky and finished 8th instead. So this isn’t a major surprise but he has to find an alternative with regards to tactics or he’ll go too.
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Yeah performance wise last season we were just as bad as the last couple of games. We kept pulling off results out of nowhere though.
 
I honestly think SJR has backed the wrong horse. We've lost Ashworth, who was the best DOF in the land, supposedly because he didnt want Amorim. We are making the most drastic change of strategy in football. Switching from a back 4 to a back 5. No wonder Ahsworth couldnt get behind it.

Weve given ourselves a mountain to climb.

Amorim will not get time. He will be sacked if this form continues. United can barely get a shot on goal never mind a win. Amorim is a philosophy manager that wont change his style, even when we clearly dont have the players for it. Unless 6 new players come in in January, he is doomed.
 
ha_rooney said:
He needs to go back to playing at least one winger at the WB role. Not sure why he’s gone more defensive. It’s not worked.
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Yesh, he's basically shot himself in the foot by turning us into a 5 2 2 1 instead of an actual 3 4 3. Its way too defensive. Sometimes we have 3 CBs marking 1 Striker, when one of them could be pushing into midfield to give us a body. As Carragher pointed out the fullbacks are so defensive by the time we transition we can't even take advantage of potential superior numbers because the fullbacks are so far behind play. There is 0 risk to the way we play at the moment. We are not setting up in a way to overload in certain areas. Its just kinda being passive and reactionary to what's in front of us. Some of that is the players for sure, but Amorim also has to take responsibility for not being more brave in choosing at least 1 attacking wingback and not getting a CB to push up when we have the ball.
 
Sarni said:
I wish he just stuck Collyer or whoever there. At this point playing Eriksen and Casemiro is completely counter productive.
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Agreed - said the same to a mate at half time.

At the very least he gives you legs in the middle!
 
Reditus said:
Surely he will have to swallow his pride and change things. He now needs to get the most of what he has available. Which is normal for any new manager coming in mid season.

They get into the club try and stabilise things then after implement new ideas

He seems to have approached it all backwards and it’s very concerning.
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The problem is, he's given too many interviews on it now too. Its a hard one to make a u-turn on at this point, considering how vocally adamant he's been for months. Potter got hammered when he changed his system at Chelsea.
 
Atheist said:
If anyone remembers the stats from last season, we were performing like a bottom half side. We got insanely lucky and finished 8th instead. So this isn’t a major surprise but he has to find an alternative with regards to tactics or he’ll go too.
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It had us around 14th but many thought we'd be back challenging for top 4 without even improving the starting XI in the summer. This was all very predictable.
 
In fear of getting a ban, I will reiterate what I said before this season. There is no player in this united side I would have at Bayern. Your problem is way deeper than the manager, your squad is not good enough to compete at the higher levels. And your dressing room seems to be toxic at times. There's no unity.
 
Reditus said:
Surely he will have to swallow his pride and change things. He now needs to get the most of what he has available. Which is normal for any new manager coming in mid season.

They get into the club try and stabilise things then after implement new ideas

He seems to have approached it all backwards and it’s very concerning.
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Sam Allerdyce could get more out of this team than Amorim.
 
Hakara said:
In fear of getting a ban, I will reiterate what I said before this season. There is no player in this united side I would have at Bayern. Your problem is way deeper than the manager, your squad is not good enough to compete at the higher levels. And your dressing room seems to be toxic at times. There's no unity.
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You won’t get a ban for saying that because it’s completely true and we all know it. I’m not even sure any of these players are getting into Newcastle’s first XI.
 
He could take us down and I think we'd might as well stick with him. This rotten team doesn't do new manager bounces so it's pointless contemplating any scenario where we'd replace him.
 
Hakara said:
In fear of getting a ban, I will reiterate what I said before this season. There is no player in this united side I would have at Bayern. Your problem is way deeper than the manager, your squad is not good enough to compete at the higher levels. And your dressing room seems to be toxic at times. There's no unity.
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Couldn’t agree more.
 
At present I wouldn't be surprised to see us get relegated and I just don't think INEOS will hang right as that prospect becomes more real.

Good coach, poor fit for our players.
 
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