Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

First time I put blame on him - Eriksen/Case with Joelinton as a runner is the stuff nightmares are made of and Zirkzee just isn't good enough.
That said, once that issue was sorted, we played ok but the damage was done.

People saying he should get sacked are nutjobs - but no more line ups like today.
And if he persists with it?
 
Playing Casemiro, Ericksen and Zirkzee was criminal, big mistake but I’m backing him as he has time coming up to work with them but it seems some don’t want to and that could be the end of him, he needs to start winning and soon, voices of support on here are changing.
 
He wont be, its a nonsense scenario. Everyone can see theres a wider personnel issue on the pitch with Wilcox and Berrada in full receipt of it.
But we are slowly getting dragged into relegation battle. Ipswich are only 7 points behind us
 
If he wants to stick with his system and the current first teamers just can't do the job, why can't he pull those players from the reserves and couch them into it? I rather we lose when trying young players then stick to those big players who have failed us big time.
 
First time I put blame on him - Eriksen/Case with Joelinton as a runner is the stuff nightmares are made of and Zirkzee just isn't good enough.
That said, once that issue was sorted, we played ok but the damage was done.

People saying he should get sacked are nutjobs - but no more line ups like today.
We played okay once the game was gone and Newcastle sat in, same as versus Bournemouth.
 
Yeah, It's getting harder to imagine he'll manage to get through this. Almost none of it is his fault but once the pressure keeps piling on there's less and less leeway for bad results. You got to win some guess or the players just won't buy into your idea.
 
It's beyond stupid to stick with a system when we don't have the players for it and we haven't had enough training to apply it.
Beyond stupid
Then he shouldn't have been brought in. Why the feck would he come in and apply a system he doesn't know just to change it in the summer.

Clubs a load of wank.
 
I don’t understand his view of keeping a formation that our squad is clearly incapable of playing. Get us through this season then change things in the summer FFS
I'd rather we suffer, figure out who can play this way and try our best to have a strong summer. If we put more gaffer tape around this bunch all we are doing is prolonging this process and we might as well have gone with someone more similar to ETH.

Saying that a bit of pragmatism in areas would be welcome, he needs to stay out of an actual relegation battle.
 
Then what response do you want right now? Is it one of “i told you so” posts?
No, just a post to calm the anger at your manager that's obviously going to come, because that is not where your problem lies atm, and wasn't really before the season either.
 
What really worries me is he has completely disengaged with what were our two “star” (term used loosely) forwards in Garnacho and Rashford who at least had a few goals in them. He’s currently left with zilch, zero, nothing unless we can sign bodies in Jan.
 
He wont be, its a nonsense scenario. Everyone can see theres a wider personnel issue on the pitch with Wilcox and Berrada in full receipt of it.

Yes. That would be nonsense. Ineos is also responsible and is in this boat as well.
 
Needs to start focusing on getting wins now and drop this planning for the future malarky. No good players are going to want to come here if this continues.
 
Back him, give him time, and give him players who can play in this league. Get him a left back or left wing back, either one helps. Get him more than anything, a center forward as our 2 are comically shit and not suited for premier league football let alone bottom half sides. And so on. It doesn't need to be people who are suited specifically to a 3-4-3. We just have a garbage squad who is nowhere near good enough.
 
I don't care that he just got here 2 months ago. If he gets whipped by 5, 6 or 7 at Liverpool then his job is in question.

No decent United manager can allow it, experimenting or not.
 
People need to understand that its not the system. 3-4-3, 4-4-3 and 5-4-1.. everything has been tried. We dont do basics well. We dont press, we dont pass, we cant shoot to save our life. We dont defend crosses, we dont stop crosses enough, we dont control ball well in midfield. We just arent good at any of the basics that is required.

Technical stuff comes later. This group of players are shocking
Amen.
 
At present I wouldn't be surprised to see us get relegated and I just don't think INEOS will hang right as that prospect becomes more real.

Good coach, poor fit for our players.
Surely a Good coach can get a tune out of any group of players? If it means changing system to accommodate them, so be it. But isn’t that what coaches do?
 
He won't be. This is a long term process and ripping it up again so soon would be madness
It is, but we made the mistake of giving too much time to managers that show no sign of achieving the standards required too many times. If he doesn't show he can build a coherant team with this squad, are they going to give him £X hundred million to build a squad or start looking for someone else who might be able to? I'm not saying he should be sacked, I don't want him to be either, but if it was my money I don't know if he'd have convinced me he was the man to be in charge of it.
 
And if he persists with it?
If he keeps putting the old man pairing in the CMs and keeps playing Zirkzee at 10 (and it keeps not working) then I will change my mind. I was quite optimistic tonight but hadn't realised Ugarte was suspended, i think everyone knows we can't be relying on Case/Eriksen as a pair.
 
The manager has been given a rotten hand, utd are looking to a relegation battle, and this defensive wingbacks needs to change that way maybe utd can score. Too many players lightweight and no athleticism. The amount of inflated garbage we have gathered is truly shocking. I wonder how much levy will Amorim get here
 
He has to change the formation.


Our players do not have the mental capacity to play a complex formation. Kick and run is what they are best at. 4231 or 433 to survive this season and not get dragged into a relegation battle
 
We have regressed under him instead of improving. Can't believe that he can be worse than ETH. What's the style of play? I don't see any style at all.

He needs another 700m and 24 new players again? deja vu? We need to ask the right question. Is he the right manager?

I would get rid. I said it. There it is. It was a bad decision to bring in a manager with niche tactics and player requirements.

Get a manager that plays a more standard game plan and stick to it.
You cant buy a whole new squad of players to play counter attacking 523 and then need a whole other squad when a new manager comes in after its fecked up.

We need continuity of tactics
 
He should have come to you in the summer.

You should have kept RVN until then.
 
Since Norwegian triangle, i said that every next manager, while they pick XI from that bunch of cnuts, they deserve whatever they get, good or bad
 
Wouldn’t surprise me if he walks, and I wouldn’t blame him.

He won’t walk and he shouldn’t. He needs time to implement his ideas, however, we’re lingering dangerously close above the relegation places, I think he needs to find a temporary formation that players are comfortable playing in. In the summer hopefully the board will back Amorim and give him his wingbacks and striker and Amorim can start using his 343.
 
We have regressed under him instead of improving. Can't believe that he can be worse than ETH. What's the style of play? I don't see any style at all.

He needs another 700m and 24 new players again? deja vu? We need to ask the right question. Is he the right manager?

He’s the right manager but this is a big change, doing this change mid season when we were already struggling is a mistake

He wanted to cone in the summer but was told now or never. Should have got him locked down for next season and give Ruud a contract as interim till the summer
 
We lose the next 3 games like the last 3 and he’s gone I’d put a years salary on it!!
That would make it about 14 games. NFL teams don't sack coaches that quickly.
What exactly is the breaking point with amorim? surely we won't allow it to get to the point where we get dragged into a relegation battle
That would be my limit. These players are so bad I've little expectations beyond staying in the league. :lol: