Sadly, it’s the same sort of stubbornness as ten Hag showed. ETH had no clue, plan b or tactics, it seems that Ruben has one tactic, no plan b and his tactics aren’t very good against footballing giants of Bournemouth and Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Amorim's 10 games in charge W4 D1 L5
Goals scored 17
Goals conceded 19
Shots on goal 145
Shots on target 51
Opposition shots on goal 102
Oppossition Shots on target 41
Possession - average per game 59%)
Last ten games for Ten Hag as United manager W3 D5 L2
Goals Scored 18
Goals conceded 11
Shots on goal 183
Shots on Target 77
Opposition shots on goal 104
Opposition shots on target 39
Possession average per game 54%
Make of that what you will..
Goals scored 17
Goals conceded 19
Shots on goal 145
Shots on target 51
Opposition shots on goal 102
Oppossition Shots on target 41
Possession - average per game 59%)
Last ten games for Ten Hag as United manager W3 D5 L2
Goals Scored 18
Goals conceded 11
Shots on goal 183
Shots on Target 77
Opposition shots on goal 104
Opposition shots on target 39
Possession average per game 54%
Make of that what you will..
Why do you use logic here?
Who is being impatient?
Unsophisticated or not, it’s moronic knee-jerking on your part, aligned with speculative nonsense that Amorim will resort to his network of players for future transfers (based on what?) Grow up.
I don't get all this "His system". Any deployed style or system should suit the player profiles in your squad.
Managers who only play with one formation and never adapt won't go far
Instead, why don’t you stop being coy and tell us what you’re making of it?
It's Ten Hags team though, Amorim needs time as he's making do with players that either can't play his system or haven't had enough time to work as he wants.
Again, he needs to be given time to recover the team from the damage done under ETH. By the end of the season, it’s the time to re-evaluate the situation. Be patient. I feel he can steady the ship soon.
The system is fine.
Keeper mistakes, conceding from set pieces, giving away penalty / red cards and missing chances aren't the system.
Today's game was the first game where "the system" struggled.
Keeper mistakes, conceding from set pieces, giving away penalty / red cards and missing chances aren't the system.
Today's game was the first game where "the system" struggled.
Probably after those two…. And maybe after the Arsenal cup game too.
The fact ETH signed two useless goalkeepers was always going to be a problem. Our defence could majestic, but we would still concede goals if your goalie loves throwing them in the net. He needs to look at where the system has worked in games and pick those personel in those positions and stick to it.
you're going to get banned if you keep this up.
We are not liverpool scum, we are people of the highest characteristics, people of faith and ideals.
so
back derp manager
haff faith
mo time plz
Oh my goodness. You cannot be serious.
Various posters are already suggesting Amorim should be sacked, or otherwise have given up on him already.
We’re constantly let down by individual mistakes and most are completely avoidable
Absolute children, the whole lot of them. I don't know how they manage it in real life with that attitude.
If my calculations are correct, Amorim won 1 game more, so he must be better.
Leaving that aside, I was thinking about which players, look decent in the new system and I really can't think of anybody expect maybe Maz, Ugarte and De Ligt. So 3 players out of...all who played in the last 10 games.
Don't be silly. It's objectively kneejerk to entirely give up on a new manager within 1.5 months, after he got in from a great stint at another club and inherited a deeply flawed team at United. As much as you can have doubts forming, there is no way giving up on Amorim at this point in time is a reasonable stance.
I can’t believe the amount of people calling for him to be sacked. It’s obvious why he wanted to come in at the end of the season. The cancerous locker room was coming to a head before he got here and now he’s dealing with that, player quality, and everything else. He’s the right fit but the players at his disposal are abysmal
Wolves is O'Neill's team, Vitor Pereira is barely a week into the job and just beat a team Amorim has been on for a month.
Is not asking for the moon to think Manchester United should be in a place to win today.
Still, I think anyone knows at this point it doesn't matter what coach you bring in, the problem is rooted at the club and only a 180º turn will fix it.
Ipswich too but it was his first game. I missed the Bournemouth game so cant comment there. Forrest had individual errors I suppose? I actually forgot how the game went apart from Onanas howler.
Yep, it’s very simple. If you want real change you keep pushing for it.
It’s still dawning on people that the period of Mou through to Ole’s last day was the most damaging waste of time the club could ever have done. Just dead time.
The new manager isn't a miracle worker and hasn't been able to get a tune out of this bang average squad inside 2 months?
(The main difference of course though is that he isn't to blame for buying most of them.)
I like him and he will be the man to remove the toxicity from the dressing room. I am in favor of moving Rashford and Shaw one. Shaw is always hurt and Rashford has lost a step or just doesnt care to sprint.
Mount is somebody I want to get behind, but injuries are taking that feeling away. Another 1 -2 and I would move him out as well.
Rubin is a great manager but he is working with Ole's, ETH, Jose and Van Gaal players .... hard to do what you want, when you have 4 different stylings of players in the mix.
Mount is somebody I want to get behind, but injuries are taking that feeling away. Another 1 -2 and I would move him out as well.
Rubin is a great manager but he is working with Ole's, ETH, Jose and Van Gaal players .... hard to do what you want, when you have 4 different stylings of players in the mix.
Don't they realise we will just have exactly the same problems with a new manager. They will pick a system and there will be certain players who cannot operate in it. This is why we are in such a mess. Different managers, different styles, different players. Just let him build a team. We have too many players who are mentally fragile, physically fragile, technically fragile.
Tell me where I’m wrong then. Enlighten me because that tonight was as bad, if not worse than any of the bad served up by ETH. We could be there now in a totally empty Molineux with no opposition and I would still back Wolves to win.
Ok thats a wild take
Good luck finding patience in the online supporter base. A thing of the past.
We were doing well, you could see progress in our style of play but the games against Bournemouth and wolves were terrible and it seems we've gone backwards. No signs of the early progress we showed, players reverting to their usual shitness. I watched Amorims post match interview and he said there is no time to train, just recovery and get ready for the next game. This pattern will carry on until we get some breathing room with the games. More misery and suffering awaits us cafetards. The next international break can't come soon enough!
Think people are forgetting this. The club forced his hand to take the job early. They have hamstrung him.
No matter the system these players are not good enough.
If we had a capable striker we would be in far better position with just that alone. We create plenty of chances but striker quality is mid table at best
Thats on the club
My only hope is that with new managers, we usually start brilliantly and then things start to implode.
Now, we get the imploding out of the way and hopefully things are up from then on.
Now, we get the imploding out of the way and hopefully things are up from then on.
Let him be a scapegoat, to be honest. United are his childhood club, in complete disarray, desperate for someone to step up when they're needed the most, and he's briefing about how he wants to leave.
I’m sure he’s crying every night into his multimillion pound contract.
Pay no heed to them my brother. They are with the shaitan.
£500m and time. Inshallah, top 4 after that.
Yes and I’m amazed how quickly people have forgot that. He just needs a competent goal scorer and that alone would solve a lot of glaring issues