Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

Premier League doing another AMA on Ruben Amorim on their Twitter - that seems obsessive already. I honestly doesn't remember, but I don't think there was as much public pressure on Pep or Klopp when they first came to Premier League? The current obsession on Ruben seems unhealthy.
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Premier League doing another AMA on Ruben Amorim on their Twitter - that seems obsessive already. I honestly doesn't remember, but I don't think there was as much public pressure on Pep or Klopp when they first came to Premier League? The current obsession on Ruben seems unhealthy.
Probably because pep and klopp was well known to be fair. And from popular leagues. They already made a name for themselves. Amorim will hopefully make a name for himself in the premier league as being the one since fergie to bring us back challenging.
 
If he can make the team functional and not playing counter attack and insha allah, i dont think he needs 600m.... even half of that seems to be more than enough. Which is sad. Why did we keep Ten Hag before sacking him early in the season, I never know. I would argue Mc Tominay would have been a good option to have as well in his team. We are approaching Klopp/Pep team level of hardwork from the players and its really good to see.
Wasn’t this down to Ashworth? I read up that Ratcliffe was furious at the decision to keep him which as then cost us a lot more money.
 
The loss against Spurs last night doesn't bother me much but a lot of positives to take away, Amorim's impact is really showing but there is a lot to work on in terms of unforced errors and consistency.


However, we gotta win the next 3 league against Bournemouth, Wolves and Newcastle, they are winnable, obviously not easy but winnable, will give the confidence and momentum the team needs to face Liverpool at Anfield
I’m looking forward to that Anfield game. We’re use to going there and being dominated and battered but Amorim as brought a different way of playing even away to the bigger teams in the league.
 
Until he shifts the deadwood Ten Hag and others signed . We will keep seeing inconsistent results, doesn’t help having two goalkeepers who are capable of losing you a game, any manager would struggle dealing with that. In the short period he has been here. We look far more organised players look like they know their positions and roles. I also love the way he has handled the Rashford situation and the media in general. Just need some patience and ignore Sky and Talksport long running agenda against us. Interesting to see how much backlash we got losing to spurs despite having more shots, possession and higher XG .
 
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I’m looking forward to that Anfield game. We’re use to going there and being dominated and battered but Amorim as brought a different way of playing even away to the bigger teams in the league.
Another draw that kills their title hopes would be more than satisfactory.
 
I like the way he is managing players' time by rotating and yet not compromising his system. It means he can seamlessly fit together players with different capabilities.
 
This video sums up the improvement under Ruben. Its night and day in just a few weeks. If our attack was half decent we wouldn't be having such mixed results

What I notice is that we’re carrying out a lot of man-to-man marking and not giving Spurs space.
 
It is the strongest team that spurs could currently field, no?

That doesn't automatically make the team the 'first team'.

The post was implying it was a full-strength tottenham vs a backup man utd. Spurs had 10 first team players unavailable. Just a weird stretch.
 
I’m looking forward to that Anfield game. We’re use to going there and being dominated and battered but Amorim as brought a different way of playing even away to the bigger teams in the league.
Biggest thing for that Anfield game will be not gifting them goals and momentum. We'll have our opportunities to attack, Liverpool aren't Arsenal defensively. But if we go and gift them free goals it'll be a hellish experience
 
Biggest thing for that Anfield game will be not gifting them goals and momentum. We'll have our opportunities to attack, Liverpool aren't Arsenal defensively. But if we go and gift them free goals it'll be a hellish experience
They’ve actually conceded less than Arsenal and scored more than Arsenal. Liverpool should always be a tougher game than Arsenal. Especially at Anfield… they normally attack after attack. So will be important to get a bit of control ourselves.
 
Premier League doing another AMA on Ruben Amorim on their Twitter - that seems obsessive already. I honestly doesn't remember, but I don't think there was as much public pressure on Pep or Klopp when they first came to Premier League? The current obsession on Ruben seems unhealthy.
Can't really blame the media and the league for being enamored with him tbf, so are we as a fanbase :lol:
 
This video sums up the improvement under Ruben. Its night and day in just a few weeks. If our attack was half decent we wouldn't be having such mixed results

just the amount of space we conceded and how disorganized the press was is the most telling
 
Based on his experience I doubt if he has ever seen transfer budgets come even close to 25% of ours.
He would have shot his wad, spazed out and landed overnight at the local infirmary if he saw those numbers presented.
He hasn't.

But honestly the biggest change will be NOT having to sell the best players every season. Or ever really.
That is massive and it's a luxury that Benfica, Porto and Sporting can not afford to.
 
I agree.

I'd add the Ronaldo signing to the fatal mistakes in his final season as well.

It's impossible to be organized out of possession with too many passengers who can't press well, or are just too lazy to do so, like Ronaldo, Pogba, Greenwood, and Rashford.

And you can't become a modern day elite team in possession either with the likes of De Gea, Varane and AWB doing the build-up.

Looking back at the squad we had back then and the positions we finished in Ole's two full seasons, I have to say we overachieved. We had good attacking talent and depth in that department (Rashford, Martial, Cavani, Pogba, Greenwood, Bruno), but otherwise that squad was light years away from competing.
Varane? He was decent on the ball wasn't he? You can't categorise him with De Gea and Wan B
 
They’ve actually conceded less than Arsenal and scored more than Arsenal. Liverpool should always be a tougher game than Arsenal. Especially at Anfield… they normally attack after attack. So will be important to get a bit of control ourselves.
I'm aware, I'm more so talking stylistically in that Liverpool is going to be more expansive and will offer more opportunity for opposition attacks especially at home. Arsenal are far more cautious in big games even against our weakened side.
 
I like the way he is managing players' time by rotating and yet not compromising his system. It means he can seamlessly fit together players with different capabilities.
The system supports this too, it’s easier to move players around by slot or two.

I really like it.
 
I like the way he is managing players' time by rotating and yet not compromising his system. It means he can seamlessly fit together players with different capabilities.
His countrymen Dalot and Bruno seem to be immune to his rotations though. You cant even argue theyve been in undroppable form. Would love to see Amorim’s team without Bruno’s charts’ topping possession lost numbers
 
We are definitely on right track as far as general play is concerned, but at some point Amorim is going to have to find a lineup he can stick with for more than one game in a row.
 
We are definitely on right track as far as general play is concerned, but at some point Amorim is going to have to find a lineup he can stick with for more than one game in a row.

Why? Maybe he feels that the more players get exposed to his system the better? Also the more players play, then happier the squad will be.
 
Why? Maybe he feels that the more players get exposed to his system the better? Also the more players play, then happier the squad will be.
Yeah if anything it makes me comfortable knowing all the players can play his system. Thats what a proper coach do.
 
We are definitely on right track as far as general play is concerned, but at some point Amorim is going to have to find a lineup he can stick with for more than one game in a row.
I disagree totally, he is keeping the whole squad involved and changing tactics based on opposition. I admire what he is doing.
 
It would be ideal if he had a preseason but in a way I like that Amorim came in middle of the season. We don't expect much results wise and it's more interesting to see our performances and style of play changing as time and games pass by. Spurs game for example is poor in terms of conceding easy goals and falling apart in first 15 minutes of 2nd half, but also good one in terms of controlling the game for large part of the match (against a weakened Spurs team obviously) and seeing patterns of how we're going to play under him.
Let's not forget Amorim hasn't even had a preseason to train his team, let alone bring in a single player, yet the progress is there.
Give him one full transfer window and a preseason for training, and this guy will have us challenging for the title.

Imagine what Amorim could have done with £646m and three transfer windows, which Ten Hag had..
Club spent a lot since 2014 under different managers but I personally find transfer dealings of 2 Dutch managers in van Gaal and ten Hag most annoying of all, though this summer and purchases of Yoro, Ugarte, de Ligt, Mazraoui and Zirkzee doesn't look bad so far.

What's also nice regarding Amorim is that both Liverpool and (reportedly) City were interested in getting him. As good a job as he was doing at Everton, don't think big clubs were ever seriously interested in David Moyes in years before he took over United job. Van Gaal was supposed to go to Tottenham in 2014 before opting for United. Ole was in Norwegian league and obviously not near top jobs. Ten Hag was close to Spurs in 2021 but they decided against for his lack of charisma and his English speaking wasn't exactly great (probably one of the big problems at United as well). Only one that could land another big job was Mourinho who was approached by PSG before taking over United and possibly once again during 17/18 season (he perhaps used that PSG interest to get a new contract at United which he did in January).

Edit: actually Barca were probably interested in ten Hag back in 2021. So not only Spurs. But it never happened obviously.
 
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Premier League doing another AMA on Ruben Amorim on their Twitter - that seems obsessive already. I honestly doesn't remember, but I don't think there was as much public pressure on Pep or Klopp when they first came to Premier League? The current obsession on Ruben seems unhealthy.

It is because Amorim said he had too many interviews so the Premier League trolled him
 
We are definitely on right track as far as general play is concerned, but at some point Amorim is going to have to find a lineup he can stick with for more than one game in a row.
Why? He doesn’t have to play the same team every match to get the squad on the same page and playing the same system.

In the 2008-2009 season Fergie went 65+ matches without naming the same team for successive matches.

“Not everyone agrees and there are some fans who want me to play my best team every game," says Ferguson. "But if I could sit down with them and explain the number of miles the players are running in every match, the intensity, the speed, the number of times they have to sprint, they would maybe realise how difficult it is."
"They want to play every game, of course, but it's impossible," explains Ferguson. "Rotation is a part of the modern game. It's got to be. Look at how fast the Premier League is and the intensity of the matches. The speed of the game has changed and somewhere along the line I have to make changes."
 
His countrymen Dalot and Bruno seem to be immune to his rotations though. You cant even argue theyve been in undroppable form. Would love to see Amorim’s team without Bruno’s charts’ topping possession lost numbers
Dalot has been rotated occasionally for Malacia

And in games where we have to play our strongest 11, what other choice do we have on the LWB?
 
Dalot has been rotated occasionally for Malacia

And in games where we have to play our strongest 11, what other choice do we have on the LWB?
Look I’m not telling the head coach how to Head coach the club. I’m just pointing out to everyone who’s talking about him constantly rotating players that it hasnt involved Bruno and Dalot. Dalot has only missed a total of 50ish minutes or so in Amorim’s first 8 games. Bruno even less
 
Varane? He was decent on the ball wasn't he? You can't categorise him with De Gea and Wan B

I don't think he was decent on the ball. Definitely not a good ball progressor either. I'd probably take AWB over him in that regard tbh.
 
Hope Bruno and Dalot playing so much only cuz they his countryman . If Amorim thinks they good enough not to be dropped then we have a serious problem .
 
Look I’m not telling the head coach how to Head coach the club. I’m just pointing out to everyone who’s talking about him constantly rotating players that it hasnt involved Bruno and Dalot. Dalot has only missed a total of 50ish minutes or so in Amorim’s first 8 games. Bruno even less

They are probably 2 of the most athletic/least injury prone players in the squad.

Dalot has had one injury in the last 5 years where he was out for 22 days.

Bruno has hardly had an injury in his whole career which is ridiculous.
 
Decent on the ball :lol:
He made Smalling look decent.
I don't understand who you've been watching but it wasn't Varane, he was comfortable passing off both feet, looked a little awkward but was assured. Comfortably better than Smalling anyway for feck sake