Ross Barkley | Stays at Everton

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Adisa said:
We are supposed to be buying players to help us compete in the Champions League for feck sake.
He's not better than Herrera or Pogba,not even close and he's not a DM. There is no point.
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As far as i am concerned, i want the league title. CL comes too soon for us, think quarter finals or semi finals is the maximum there this season.
 
izec said:
As far as i am concerned, i want the league title. CL comes too soon for us, think quarter finals or semi finals is the maximum there this season.
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And Barkley helps us get there how?
He's not as good as the players we have in his position.
 
This is all coming from one article? I think we should be fine.
 
Really underrated player IMO. Makes some brain farts but Mourinho is the kind of manager who will iron that out and turn him into the player everyone thought he would be. Before he broke his leg at 17 this guy was as good as anyone his age. The ability is still there.
 
Ramshock said:
I totally agree. I just found Levy's hatred of us to be bizarre.
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Prodigal7 said:
Spot on. The question is how long will it take for the revolt to start. It might take another season.
The problem for us is that he can still quite easily palm his players off to City, PSG etc rather than us and he's enough of a cnut to do that.
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Yeah, he's not overly keen on our club that's for sure. Still, I think it's worth Jose putting in a healthy bid, if only to test the waters. It let's Alli know we're in for him and may just peak his interest at the same time.

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Apologies for going topic OP.
 
Barkley could definatley be useful for United, but more of a luxury squad player purchase. Don't see him removing Pogba nor Herrera from the staring XI. I suppose Herrera could move to DM to make room for Barkley. Not terrible I guess, but I'd prefer Herrera more advanced and find a true DM (Fabinho) to take the role.
 
PieCrust said:
Barkley could definatley be useful for United, but more of a luxury squad player purchase. Don't see him removing Pogba nor Herrera from the staring XI. I suppose Herrera could move to DM to make room for Barkley. Not terrible I guess, but I'd prefer Herrera more advanced and find a true DM (Fabinho) to take the role.
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I'm not sure. Herrera's good at the DM, largely because he reads the game so well. We could possibly be going for a player like nainggolan or barkley to play alongside pogba and leave herrera running the show from DM as captain.
 
We have enough squad players. If we are buying midfielders, it should be to improve our team significantly. Rather than splurging on Barkley, we might as well give Perreira a chance.
 
He's gone, not sure where he will end up though. I'd also be surprised if he was guaranteed first team football at someone like Spurs whereas with us he was. The Klaasen deal makes me think he's probably gone btw.
 
Think he is United bound, we need to buy someone now Grizou is not coming, my money is on Ross. Would love it, pretty sure he will be spectacular here
 
izec said:
Think he is United bound, we need to buy someone now Grizou is not coming, my money is on Ross. Would love it, pretty sure he will be spectacular here
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Completely different players and positions. Buying Ross just because we didnt get Griezmann is stupid.
 
Barkley is one of the most overrated players there has ever been. Blows hot and cold as much as the weather in British June.
 
Mainoldo said:
He plays the same position to be fair. He's just crap at it.
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Griezmann plays more as a false nine/striker. Barkley cant do that. Plus if he is a #10, we have enough of that and thats the reason we dont need James Rodriguez either.
 
Morata
Perisic Barkley Mkhitaryan
Pogba Herra
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I know Mourinho was a big admirer of Ross, and from what was said, he wanted him at Chelsea.

Could Jose be the manager to re-ignite Barkley's career?

Not everyone will agree, but I think Ross has massive potential. He is everything Mourinho likes in a player. Maybe one thing that lets him down is his work rate. However, his pace, power and drive would certainly attract someone like Mourinho, in my opinion.

Yes, his game needs polishing over. At 23, he's still learning the game, but I think that could be easily done.

When I look at Pogba, I think the same. Obviously Pogba is more gifted, but there's still flaws in his game. For example, sometimes keeping onto the ball too long. This is something Barkley can sometimes be guilty of, and I think this season, we have seen less of this from Pogba as the season has gone on.

Like I said, not everyone will be of the same opinion, but I honestly think if Barkley was to come here, he'd be a massive hit for us.​
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Attributes:

Quick
Strong
Can beat a player
Has a good long range shot (we don't score enough goals outside the box)
Vision
Has flair
Has a good passing range

The only issue with him playing behind the forward is, would he be able to get us enough goals?

His highest scoring return in the league is 8 goals.

That said, neither Oscar and Ozil managed to score over 10 league goals under Mourinho, but I guess they had a lot of goals coming from other positions.
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Walters_19_MuFc said:
Morata
Perisic Barkley Mkhitaryan
Pogba Herra
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I know Mourinho was a big admirer of Ross, and from what was said, he wanted him at Chelsea.

Could Jose be the manager to re-ignite Barkley's career?

Not everyone will agree, but I think Ross has massive potential. He is everything Mourinho likes in a player. Maybe one thing that lets him down is his work rate. However, his pace, power and drive would certainly attract someone like Mourinho, in my opinion.

Yes, his game needs polishing over. At 23, he's still learning the game, but I think that could be easily done.

When I look at Pogba, I think the same. Obviously Pogba is more gifted, but there's still flaws in his game. For example, sometimes keeping onto the ball too long. This is something Barkley can sometimes be guilty of, and I think this season, we have seen less of this from Pogba as the season has gone on.

Like I said, not everyone will be of the same opinion, but I honestly think if Barkley was to come here, he'd be a massive hit for us.​
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Attributes:

Quick
Strong
Can beat a player
Has a good long range shot (we don't score enough goals outside the box)
Vision
Has flair
Has a good passing range

The only issue with him playing behind the forward is, would he be able to get us enough goals?

His highest scoring return in the league is 8 goals.

That said, neither Oscar and Ozil managed to score over 10 league goals under Mourinho, but I guess they had a lot of goals coming from other positions.
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Barkleys career doesn't need reignition.
Hes just come off the back of his best season, hes just not that good and never has been. His shortcomings have been blatant from day one and they haven't improved in any meaningful sense
I think everton can do better and wont miss him tbh. Forget anyone above them making use of him.
 
Yes, wouldn't be against it if it either if it happens, he's a decent young player who will only improve, wouldn't cost much either with just a year left on his contract.
 
RDCR07 said:
Griezmann plays more as a false nine/striker. Barkley cant do that. Plus if he is a #10, we have enough of that and thats the reason we dont need James Rodriguez either.
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Griezmann plays off the number 9 so that's not true. Barkley plays off Lukaku so it's he same position, Griezmann has a better goal return. We was after Griezmann so the James comment makes no sense.
 
My money is on Arsenal as the endgame of Sanchez and Ozil play out to be one of many replacements.

Would enjoy seeing him take a chance and go abroad though. Germany or somewhere.
 
I'd be well up for this, feels like a United signing. A player with loads of potential on the verge of taking that next step. I want more British players in the squad as well.

Workrate could be issue both on and off the pitch. Koeman dropping him and raising questions doesn't look great. However coming to United usually puts that to bed. Fellaini for instance works harder now than he did at Everton. They know there's no choice but to.
 
Dobbs said:
I'd be well up for this, feels like a United signing. A player with loads of potential on the verge of taking that next step. I want more British players in the squad as well.

Workrate could be issue both on and off the pitch. Koeman dropping him and raising questions doesn't look great. However coming to United usually puts that to bed. Fellaini for instance works harder now than he did at Everton. They know there's no choice but to.
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He is on the verge on taking that next step for about four years now. He had loads of potential back then. If you're looking for the potential to blossom then you are going to be disappointed.
 
RDCR07 said:
He is on the verge on taking that next step for about four years now. He had loads of potential back then. If you're looking for the potential to blossom then you are going to be disappointed.
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Not sure that's true, he has over the last few years been a talented young player. If you were expecting him to take the next step and become one of the best midfielders in the league during that period you were asking too much.

Going into next season however he definitely is at the stage where if he can add a little to his game it's all there for him. He's got that mixture of experience to go with the talent now.At a better club with better players and bigger demands it could kick him on.
 
Dobbs said:
I'd be well up for this, feels like a United signing. A player with loads of potential on the verge of taking that next step. I want more British players in the squad as well.

Workrate could be issue both on and off the pitch. Koeman dropping him and raising questions doesn't look great. However coming to United usually puts that to bed. Fellaini for instance works harder now than he did at Everton. They know there's no choice but to.
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He is not good enough.
 
Hugh Jass said:
He is not good enough.
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He's 23. It's the age when most midfielders begin to assert themselves. If his game can kick on 20% like lots of midfielders do around this time you've got a seriously good player.

If you only want players who are at the very top of the game right now then fair enough. I'd only do that now and again. Generally I like the way we've operated over the last few decades. Identifying players who've got the talent and are almost ready to put it all together.
 
I'd take Barkley, there is a lot of talent in him.

Koeman has actually improved his game, I would imagine Mourinho would improve it even further.
 
Dobbs said:
He's 23. It's the age when most midfielders begin to assert themselves. If his game can kick on 20% like lots of midfielders do around this time you've got a seriously good player.

If you only want players who are at the very top of the game right now then fair enough. I'd only do that now and again. Generally I like the way we've operated over the last few decades. Identifying players who've got the talent and are almost ready to put it all together.
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Yeah, it feels like someone Sir Alex would have had a hard look at if he were still in charge. He was Evertons 2nd best player last year according to their fans, after a couple underwhelming seasons. His decision making seems to be improving.
He wouldn't cost much with just 1 year left, wouldn't cry if we signed him.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Yeah, it feels like someone Sir Alex would have had a hard look at if he were still in charge. He was Evertons 2nd best player last year according to their fans, after a couple underwhelming seasons. His decision making seems to be improving.
He wouldn't cost much with just 1 year left, wouldn't cry if we signed him.
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Agree. Worst case scenario is that he doesn't kick on. We still end up with a good, young, English player.
 
I'd take him, £25 million without Rooney, or £40 million with, and I'm not been facetious with this, it really would be a good deal that way.
 
Chelsea have been most strongly linked with him, haven't they? I didn't think we had been linked much.

That said could see why he'd be a stereotypical Mourinho signing, being tall, strong, quick, powerful runner etc and I think he is a pretty good player. Don't think we are in for him though. Also don't think we really have the space for him unless we sell someone, as Pereira should be coming back into the squad.
 
A bit bored at work today I started wondering what was happening with Barkley, a quick search and I feel this has been pretty silent. Did some quick searching and I see that Tottenham apparently stopped interest a while ago. To me it looks more natural for him to leave with Rooney joining, most likely playing the same position behind the striker (unless Everton will use him as the striker?). There is also the earlier ultimatum from Koeman to consider

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/1...s-ross-barkley-will-leave-after-wayne-rooney/

Is there any more news about this in England?
 
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