He was good whenever I saw him last season, and at the World Cup. By all accounts, he almost single handedly kept Villa up last year.
Ron Vlaar
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
I've been banging this drum for a while now but get him in, this "not United quality" attitude is outdated, there's a huge number of players that would improve this side therefore they are all United quality.
Doesn't his contract run of in the summer?
Even if we get Rojo, i would sign him regardless. His organisational skills would improve us massively at the back, and should be able to be pick him up for relatively cheap
Even if we get Rojo, i would sign him regardless. His organisational skills would improve us massively at the back, and should be able to be pick him up for relatively cheap
Inc 15m bidDoesn't his contract run of in the summer?
Even if we get Rojo, i would sign him regardless. His organisational skills would improve us massively at the back, and should be able to be pick him up for relatively cheap
I think our pursuit of players too hold our defense together for the next 10 years needs to be put on hold
We pretty much dont have the time for kids to be learning at the back when there going to be coming up against some of the best strikers in the world in Aguero and Costa pretty soon, we need a stop gap experianced Laurent Blanc type transfer, and this could be our man
We pretty much dont have the time for kids to be learning at the back when there going to be coming up against some of the best strikers in the world in Aguero and Costa pretty soon, we need a stop gap experianced Laurent Blanc type transfer, and this could be our man
The main downside is he's slow, which affects the ability to play a high line. Otherwise, he has lots of positives compared to the incumbents.
What? Vlaar is far from slow, he is actually pretty quick and athletic.
If he can keep up with Hazard he certainly isn't slow.
Was he not one of the fastest player at the World Cup or something.
The most important thing to van Gaal is that players understand his system and follow his instruction, so I can definitely see this happening.
Going by the MoTD highlights he seemed to have had a stormer against Stoke yesterday. He's on form, LvG knows him like the back of his hand so if he was there to be got I couldn't see the harm in making him part of things. He could be exactly what's needed to steady things up a bit at the back for the time being.
We need to stop being picky. He's better than anything we have right now.
I am starting to think Vlaar would be a good signing. He is experienced and a good leader.
I was lambasted for making this thread earlier. Now, i am sure many would be happy to see him.
Bring on concrete Ron
He has been great for Villa. If we aren't signing Hummels/Benatia etc. which I don't think we are then he could be a decent option until we can get someone of the top level. In the last year of his contract, knows van Gaals system and from what I've heard isn't planning on signing a new contract as he wants to go to a bigger club. Offer Michael Keane or something on loan and it might sweeten the deal for Villa too.
Keano could then get Michael back playing for Ireland too so win for all.
Keano could then get Michael back playing for Ireland too so win for all.
I'll pass on this one.
When people talk about centre backs' speed it's more to do with their agility and speed on the turn than their sprint speed, and Vlaar definitely doesn't look the most mobile to me in that sense. He's a couple of levels below what we should be looking at.
Why did we pass up on De Vrij? He wasn't as commanding as Vlaar in the world cup but he was excellent at carrying the ball out of defense while being extremely solid at the back with his reading of the game being impressive as well. He would have been perfect in our 3 man defense and his price was extremely viable as well, but I've never watched him at Feyenoord and that must have had something to do with LVG passing up on him.
I would love it if we didn't sign this guy.
If we're going back to a back 4, we don't need more numbers unless it's real top quality.
If we're sticking with a back 3, it still doesn't make any sense signing him. He always played as the central stopper in the 3 for Holland and I don't think he's suitable at all for one of the wide CB roles. And we've already got at least 3 players who would prefer that role anyway.
If we're sticking with a back 3, it still doesn't make any sense signing him. He always played as the central stopper in the 3 for Holland and I don't think he's suitable at all for one of the wide CB roles. And we've already got at least 3 players who would prefer that role anyway.
Our squad is mid-table.
Let's buy Ron Vlaar.
Let's buy Ron Vlaar.
In the gif above he has had to turn and get back and he never lost a foot on Hazard. He isn't slow, ask Villa fans and they will all say he isn't slow. In fact the Villa forum I am on all had a laugh at the members on Redcafe calling him slow during the World Cup.
I think you're confusing Vlaar with his teammate. His name is Arjen Robben.
I think he would make a great starter to back-up. Should he be leading the line? No, but he is better than most of what we have.
Said it before, said it again, I think he's good enough to play for us... he wouldn't cost a lot, he's experienced, had an excellent world cup, LVG knows him, he would improve us... and besides, how many "top-class" centre backs even exist anymore?
A player like him is the next step as midtable team for us
That would appear to put the slow thing to bed. I like all three of Evans, Smalling and Jones but they haven't got the leadership or confidence to front things out at the moment. Vlaar wouldn't break the bank and would be an excellent partner for any of them. Calmness and stability is what we need back there at the moment. Big Ron makes sense.
True, apart from that LVG always said it's about the team and not the individuals, we need to sign players that fit and improve the engine to perform his system, so every player he chooses will be good enough. (Waiting for the obligatory Braafheid comment)
That second statement though. He is not an elite defender.
We will really pull away from the likes of Newcastle and Southampton with a signing like this.
Nor is Blackett, in fact nor is Evans, Smalling or as yet Jones (though he is the one who strikes me as having the potential if he is played at CB regularly)
It is certainly a step down from Hummles or Benaita but with time running out and a need for defenders it could yet happen - dread to think how much of a premium we would have to pay on deadline day though
Vlaar is 29. The rest of them are <26. There is a difference and a very good chance Smalling, Jones might start showing their quality this season.
We did the same with Fellaini (exhausted all our options, and went for a lower rung "midfielder"). Look how that turned out.
but suppose we try for benaita, hummles, subotic, varane and they or their clubs all turn us down... we try for young players like stones or martinez and again they decide they would rather stay where they are... and then on deadline day you still need defenders so do you go in for someone like vlaar who wouldnt cost a fortune, is probably available and would add strength in depth - or do you hope smalling, jones, evans and blackett manage to go all season timing their injuries and suspensions just right so that we are not stuck with an even weaker defence?
In not enthralled by Vlaar - I certainly dont see him as a massive improvement on what we have - but he would add depth and if we cant get our main targets then he would be prefect for a season or two whilst we fight our way back into the cl and reshape our squad
My worry is numbers. A few injuries which is likely and we are playing Carrick and Flecther ..... tell me they are world class or better than Vlaar?
Another clean sheet, can we afford not to buy Vlaar? He's the dominant leader we don't have since Vida left.
I'd take him, for sure. He's one of many PL defenders, playing for weaker teams, who are actually good, solid defenders. I'd take a Ron Vlaar, Cahill, Distin, Jagielka etc. over a Ramos or Luiz every single day.
Sometimes the Cafe just makes me laugh. Distin and Jagielka over Ramos? In fact any of those over Ramos?
I'd take him for less than £10m.
Still a better signing than Vermaelen.
Still a better signing than Vermaelen.