Except he is.
Ron Vlaar
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Nice to see people ignoring his performances for Villa over the last 2 years then.
Not sure. There is clearly a good defender. Not good enough for us, but he is decent.
Look at Gary Cahill. People were laughing at Chelsea for signing him because of how many goals Bolton were conceding. It's not easy for Vlaar playing alongside all these young defenders at Villa.
I was surprised when he went to Villa to be honest. He has always struck me as a good defender and could play at a higher level than a woeful Villa side.
He has had a brilliant WC and fair play to him. Not saying I want him here, but he is definitely better than a Villa player.
He has had a brilliant WC and fair play to him. Not saying I want him here, but he is definitely better than a Villa player.
This is the key point, I think somewhere like Southampton would be his level esp when Lovren leaves. I really don't think he's much more than a decent, honest centre half for all that he's had a very good world cup.
and we've been used to playing with CB's who have decent pace, aside from the last season of course.
Unlike in a tournament, CB's in a challenging Prem side, need to able to push up & have the pace to cover counter attacking forwards, like Suarez, (oh wait, not Suarez
) er, Aguero (oh wait, he's fecked) er, come to think of it, who's the quickest forward our CB's will face this season???
Unlike in a tournament, CB's in a challenging Prem side, need to able to push up & have the pace to cover counter attacking forwards, like Suarez, (oh wait, not Suarez
) er, Aguero (oh wait, he's fecked) er, come to think of it, who's the quickest forward our CB's will face this season???Concrete Ron was the best player on the pitch last night.
If he has any sense he'll look for a big money move to the likes of QPR, or some other more-money-than-sense club now that his stock is at an all time high and people have forgetting that he's been pretty pony since joining Villa.
Vlaar was great last night, he's not the player for us...different player for club vs country.
Would love us to get Hummels far far better.
Would love us to get Hummels far far better.
He's had a terrific World Cup. One of the best Dutch players i'd say.
I don't know why people are quick to dismiss him as an option for us? No one is saying he'll set the world on fire - heck, no one is saying he'll even be first choice. But it's a position we need cover in, at a club who need money, and so we could probably get him at a relatively cheap cost. I would take him over Vermaelan, who spends the majority of a season injured.
It's funny how quick people are to dismiss players on some stereotype impressions of a player.
Is he a world class CB? No. Is he good enough to be a first choice at a top club? No, probably not. Is he a decent cover option? Yes, I do think he is.
It's funny how quick people are to dismiss players on some stereotype impressions of a player.
Is he a world class CB? No. Is he good enough to be a first choice at a top club? No, probably not. Is he a decent cover option? Yes, I do think he is.
He's been solid enough for Villa, but surely we're not going to sign him on the basis of 6 good games? Look at Chile's back 3, club form is much more important.
Villa won't let him go cheap, and I doubt he will be happy to sit on the bench. He isn't really good enough to be a main starter for us so it's a no go in my eyes.
Sturridge, Sterling, Hazard, Willian, Benteke, Navas, Walcott, Remy, Schurrle etc... There's more than enough pace to threaten in the leagueand we've been used to playing with CB's who have decent pace, aside from the last season of course.
Unlike in a tournament, CB's in a challenging Prem side, need to able to push up & have the pace to cover counter attacking forwards, like Suarez, (oh wait, not Suarez
Yep. I was thinking out & out no.9's but they seem to be a dying breed - Schurrle - how many starts will he get?
Anyway cheers
I said before the last game that he has looked the best of the Dutch central defenders but no one else agreed with me!
Yeah, more teams are going for more slower but perhaps technically gifted forwards to bring the pacey wingers/inside forwards into play.Yep. I was thinking out & out no.9's but they seem to be a dying breed - Schurrle - how many starts will he get?
Anyway cheers
I think De Vrij has been just as good, although he did give away the penalty against Spain. He's also 7 years younger
It was a phantom penalty in his defence. Poor call. I do agree de Vrij has looked equally impressive; Vlaar is very last ditch, no-nonsense, de Vrij has looked assured and composed, bringing the ball out when he has been surronded by a fair few players not very good on it (Janmaat, Vlaar, Wijnaldum).
Wouldn't mind him if we sign two CB's. Should need experience with Rio, Vidic and Evra gone in defence.
29 years old, PL experience and in the last year of his contract at Villa, if the plan is to give Jones and Smalling the chance to cement themselves then he seems an ideal signing to me.
I don't undestand why they don't just call him "cRONcrete"... I mean, it' writes itself!
Exactly, some of our fans think every player in the squad needs to be a huge name and are dubious about anyone with a price tag under £30m.
He's a leader, has experience in the league and with Louis, big, strong, brave and good in the air which are all attributes that Vida was still our best at last season.
As for playing for Aston Villa, good players sometimes end up at small clubs, Martin Laursen was excellent at Villa for example even though it was towards the end of his career.
Good in a 532 or 352, not good in a 442 or 433, 4231 etc.
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Would we even have this thread of LvG wasn't managing him with the Dutch? It's Ron Vlaar ffs I know we've just come off the back of a poor season but we aren't in this much trouble.
He's an average player and unless we're gonna sign someone at centre half who's guaranteed to be first choice it's pointless signing one. We have enough problems with getting a solid back line going as it is, we need someone who's a starter.
He's an average player and unless we're gonna sign someone at centre half who's guaranteed to be first choice it's pointless signing one. We have enough problems with getting a solid back line going as it is, we need someone who's a starter.
The fact it was a penalty helps I suppose.
Isn't he very injury prone?
Very much this methinks...
He did score the penalty...
He should not be discussed as a transfer target.
De Vrij has been better, for me. Also, with a higher line, Vlaar being very slow and only getting slower would be trouble.
I'm really starting to wonder why we didn't just give Rio one more year. He didn't play that badly last year, Evra and Vidic leaving means we're a bit short on experience and unless we sign a top CB, I'm not sure Vermaelen or whoever we end up with will do any better.
that fecking penalty almost crossed the line . Ive just only heard about this now
. Ive just only heard about this nowBullshit. You let your best penalty takers take first. They score, someone in other team misses. Chances are you won't need the 5th taker. Every penalty counts the same. Probably more pressure on a decisive penalty but after that I reckon the biggest pressure is on the first taker. No one has scored and he can immediately take the lead. Statistics also show that the team that scores first from penalties usually wins.
He definitely isn't as slow as some on here like to believe. Everyone on a Villa forum I'm on enjoyed a laugh at people calling him too slow on here.
Just seen this of him out running Hazard too.
wow..what a story that would be if the ball actually crosses the line.that fecking penalty almost crossed the line
Apparently it was "too late" so it didnt count....
He touched the ball as it was rebounding and in another angle, it's clear the ball doesn't cross the line.