Seriously?
I think we already have much better.
I think we already have much better.
Ron Vlaar
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Heard he's injured....
Sounds like our type of player
Sounds like our type of player
Played tonight, lost 2-0 to the 2nd worst team in the league.
What's his injury record like? If it's anyway decent I'd take him in January, simply because we cannot rely on Smalling, Jones or Evans.
And?
He's playing in a very poor villa side with utter crap next to him plus going forward too I think I heard they haven't scored any goals in 5 matches now.
you simply can't ignore the fact that in the World Cup he was arguably one of the best centre backs performance wise in the competion he shut out many top players (messi included) of course he isn't a world beater but as a short term option then a squad player he is good enough for us and we should snap him up and make the cleverly deal permanent.
Posted this earlier in the thread:
Their complaint seems to be less that he's out for long periods and more that he gets niggles so regularly that it's impossible to form a stable partnership. Not what we'd want from a CB signing, I'd have thought....
Well I'd avoid him if that's the case then.
Vlaar's crap.
Vlaar's great. You should buy him and send Smalling our way.
Villa with 6 losses in a row and 13 goals conceded with 0 scored since beating Liverpool. I'm confident Vlaar would be willing to leave them in January and we'd be his top choice surely.
But do we really want him? A lot of people have made a pretty decent case for why we shouldn't get him.
I really don't think he is LVG's type of player anyway.
He clearly likes his defenders to be confident and play out from the back, I don't think that describes Vlaar.
Considering the type I think Pique / Hummels will be the style of defender we look for in the future.
He clearly likes his defenders to be confident and play out from the back, I don't think that describes Vlaar.
Considering the type I think Pique / Hummels will be the style of defender we look for in the future.
I don't see what he brings which don't already have better.
I guess if we get enough sicknote defenders then the balance of probabilities is that there will at least 2 available at any one time.
I guess if we get enough sicknote defenders then the balance of probabilities is that there will at least 2 available at any one time.
I could see him and Smalling forming a very good partnership at CB for us. Presuming they can both stay fit.
He wouldn't be my choice that's for sure. I will be very disappointed if we sign Vlaar in the January window.
The mirror running a story about us moving for Vlaar in January.
January couldn't come soon enough to get him. Our defence is a joke. We can sell them cleverley for a good price to try and convince them to sell us Vlaar in January
Think they can just get him for free in the summer.
The first page of this thread is a little odd considering the general feeling on the caf now. Would we take him? He's almost 30, doesn't have the best injury record...
We have to be looking at a much higher caliber of player then Ron bleeding Vlaar 
Yes he had a great world cup blah blah blah...he's mid table quality. Thats why he's nearly 30 and playing for Aston Villa.
I'd be genuinely concerned if Van Gaal went for him.
Yes he had a great world cup blah blah blah...he's mid table quality. Thats why he's nearly 30 and playing for Aston Villa.I'd be genuinely concerned if Van Gaal went for him.
I completely understand the sentiment that Vlaar isn't the quality of defender we should be looking for in the long run (i.e - World Class), but we need top 4 this season and any improvement whatsoever on our current defence would be very much welcome.
I don't think we can afford to be picky and hold out for the next Varane or whatever. We need defensive cover and I'd be perfectly comfortable signing Vlaar on a 1-2 year deal (standard for over 30s at a club like ours) to tide us over until a high quality, long term option becomes available.
I don't think we can afford to be picky and hold out for the next Varane or whatever. We need defensive cover and I'd be perfectly comfortable signing Vlaar on a 1-2 year deal (standard for over 30s at a club like ours) to tide us over until a high quality, long term option becomes available.
We have to be looking at a much higher caliber of player then Ron bleeding Vlaar
I'd be genuinely concerned if Van Gaal went for him.
I'd rather Vlaar than Smalling/J.Evans on current form by a country mile.
I don't mind us signing a short term CB until we can sign someone of real quality but, as has been pointed out a few times in this thread already, Vlaar has his own injury issues. We could easily sign him in January only to see him out within a few weeks with the same persistent calf problem Villa have been dealing with. At Vlaar's age these problems are only going to get worse, not better.
Above all else, any CB we sign has to be able to stay injury free and Vlaar won't do that. Definitely do not want.
Above all else, any CB we sign has to be able to stay injury free and Vlaar won't do that. Definitely do not want.
Would the be the worst central defender at the club if purchased. The only thing he's proved in this league is that he can lead a relegation standard defence in a seriously shite way. He made Bobby Zamora look like Didier Drogba as recently as two weeks ago.
Smalling, Jones and Evans are all better at defending and have proven that for a number of years now. Even if people don't think they're good enough for us right now, at least they managed to excel lower down the league at Fulham, Blackburn and Sunderland. Vlaar hasn't even managed that. This won't happen.
Smalling, Jones and Evans are all better at defending and have proven that for a number of years now. Even if people don't think they're good enough for us right now, at least they managed to excel lower down the league at Fulham, Blackburn and Sunderland. Vlaar hasn't even managed that. This won't happen.
I don't proclaim to be an expert on all things Villa, but a lot of their fans have stated Vlaar is the reason for them avoiding relegation last season. If that isn't excelling at a lower league club then I don't know what is. I'm not advocating signing Vlaar by any means however.
We should sign Heitinga too.
It's a cow in the field situation. He's a guy that seems a much better option right now, but I'd bet my house that if we signed him in January the popular consensus in the summer on this forum would be we need to buy a better CB because Vlaar isn't Manchester United Quality.
pretty much.
We need our next 80-100m splurge to go on Varane/hummels/ceillini/godin/garay. and pogba.
My biggest concerns are his injury issues and the niggling doubt that maybe the 3 CB set up at the WC made him look better than he is.
I'd hate this signing. We've more than filled the quota of defenders not quite at the level we need who love an injury. Would much rather play McNair.
We just need another injury prone defender don't we?
He's not injury prone. Averaged 30+ games/season over the last few seasons. With no European football.
His injury record won't be what we'll be complaining about if he's signed.
Would we even be discussing him as a viable option if our manager wasn't Dutch?
No.
If he'd performed as well as he did in the World Cup for any other team he would still get discussed.
Obviously the provisos about buying on the back of a good tournament apply but he was one of the stand-out centre-halves in the last WC, hence the increased profile since.
Of course, the fact that the Dutch team was one of the tournaments surprise packages also helped, With him one of their best players. That's not got anything to do with who managed them, though.
Ron Vlaar and Marcus Rojo as United's starting CB's........Oh dear!
With 6 months left on the contracts of Vlaar and Cleverley a straight swap would make sense for both parties. We gain an experienced good Premier League defender to tie us over for 18 months until either Jones/Smalling/Evans prove themselves or are replaced, Villa gain a good midfielder for an extra 6 months and don't have to compete for his signature in the Summer (which could end up as a salary bidding war).
That's actually a really good shout. Although Villa might rate Vlaar too highly to consider it.