Ron Vlaar

Hummels, Kompany, Silva, Ramos, Pique, Varane, Chiellini, Cahill, Garay, Benatia, Boateng, Subotic, Godin.

All players I'd much rather sign, only problem is very few of them are realistic possibilities.
 
jakec said:
Hummels, Kompany, Silva, Ramos, Pique, Varane, Chiellini, Cahill, Garay, Benatia, Boateng, Subotic, Godin.

All players I'd much rather sign, only problem is very few of them are realistic possibilities.
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Not a single player on your list is even remotely realistic in January. And why mention players that we would never in a millions years be able to sign also?

Vlaar will arrive here in January no doubt. It's debatable if Vlaar is better than what we have but he is the right age for a central defender and does not get injured every 2 seconds like Jones, Smalling and Evans. He's a perfect stop gap to be honest and we can always use Cleverleys loan to give us more leverage. We should seriously send Smalling to villa on loan too to sweeten the deal as he seriously needs to toughen up elsewhere
 
Ringo 07 said:
Not a single player on your list is even remotely realistic in January. And why mention players that we would never in a millions years be able to sign also?

Vlaar will arrive here in January no doubt. It's debatable if Vlaar is better than what we have but he is the right age for a central defender and does not get injured every 2 seconds like Jones, Smalling and Evans. He's a perfect stop gap to be honest and we can always use Cleverleys loan to give us more leverage. We should seriously send Smalling to villa on loan too to sweeten the deal as he seriously needs to toughen up elsewhere
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I know that. I'm simply pointing out that I don't think he's the end to our defensive issues. I'm not sure how much he would improve our prospects this season.
 
I'm fine with signing him in January if LVG wants him.

Shame Van Gaal currently doesn't have a Frank De Boer up his sleeve to call on as when he managed Barca, but Vlaar will probably do a job for us.
 
Don't see the need. He's a right footed Centre-back and I'm not sure he's a huge improvement on Jones or Evans (actually I think he'a a downgrade) whilst I'd rather see Smalling or McNair play over a 29 year old stop gap.
 
NinjaFletch said:
Don't see the need. He's a right footed Centre-bacis why we will definitely sign him and I'm not sure he's a huge improvement on Jones or Evans (actually I think he'a a downgrade) whilst I'd rather see Smalling or McNair play over a 29 year old stop gap.
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He's probably a downgrade like you say but he's not a sicknote like Jones, Smalling and Evans so that I
 
Vlaar hasn't kicked a ball since August and has had persistent calf problems for the last couple of years. I'm not sure injury-prone 29 year olds are the way to solve our defensive issues.
 
forget Vlaar, we should wait until summer and buy one top CB who will probably be available with enough money. Good defender, but his injury problems are a big concern.
 
Vlaar was terrible last season for Aston Villa

Vlaar was very good for the Netherlands at the World Cup

Vlaar is injured since August

= Club football says more about a players as 7 games at a tournament
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
Vlaar was terrible last season for Aston Villa

Vlaar was very good for the Netherlands at the World Cup

Vlaar is injured since August

= Club football says more about a players as 7 games at a tournament
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He was good for them last season. Well, he was good for my FF team and when I searched him on twitter the Villa fans seemed to love him.
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
Vlaar was terrible last season for Aston Villa

Vlaar was very good for the Netherlands at the World Cup

Vlaar is injured since August

= Club football says more about a players as 7 games at a tournament
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Interestingly Villa were the in form team in the pl until vlaar got injured
 
I've no confidence in Smalling, Jones and Evans remaining fit, so I'd definitely bring in Vlaar for the short term.
 
Considering how injury prone our defenders are, it'd be wise to sign him. He was one of the best players for Aston Villa last season (if not the best) and had a good WC too. I think we will get him and a CM in the winter transfer window.
 
Vlaar is twice the player Evans is and is playing much better than Smalling currently has shown for United in recent appearances. Only Jones at the moment deserves a place in our current defence but unfortunately, he's made of glass as are our other shite/out of form defenders.

Vlaar in January would be a good signing if we could get him on the cheap. Not sure why people are turning their nose up on him when he's actually a good player, one of the best defenders in the PL last season and was the best defender for the third placed team at the most recent World Cup. A similar thing happened with Mertesacker and Arsenal fans where they scoffed at his signing and now they all love him! It's not like we could realistically get anyone else in of similar quality or more in January, anyhow.

Anyway, the people who have issues with with the amount of defenders we'll have if we do buy him, it won't be an issue as with Vlaar in, we'd probably get rid of a few deadwood defenders, namely Evans, who is fecking 27 soon yet plays like a kid and perhaps bring a world class defender to replace him/Rio/Vidic in the summer. Blackett and McNair will have their chances as Jones and Smalling will most likely continue their Chuckle Brothers act.
 
Señor said:
Vlaar is twice the player Evans is and is playing much better than Smalling currently has shown for United in recent appearances. Only Jones at the moment deserves a place in our current defence but unfortunately, he's made of glass as are our other shite/out of form defenders.

Vlaar in January would be a good signing if we could get him on the cheap. Not sure why people are turning their nose up on him when he's actually a good player, one of the best defenders in the PL last season and was the best defender for the third placed team at the most recent World Cup. A similar thing happened with Mertesacker and Arsenal fans where they scoffed at his signing and now they all love him! It's not like we could realistically get anyone else in of similar quality or more in January, anyhow.

Anyway, the people who have issues with with the amount of defenders we'll have if we do buy him, it won't be an issue as with Vlaar in, we'd probably get rid of a few deadwood defenders, namely Evans, who is fecking 27 soon yet plays like a kid and perhaps bring a world class defender to replace him/Rio/Vidic in the summer. Blackett and McNair will have their chances as Jones and Smalling will most likely continue their Chuckle Brothers act.
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It's just wrong to say that Ron Vlaar is twice the payer that Johnny Evans is. Evans has had his issues and I have been disappointed in his form but your statement is completely wrong.
 
We now have 6 central defenders, of which 4 are fairly experienced. If we get most them back to form and fitness, we don't need a 7th.

However, if LvG really feels the need to replace one of Evans or Smalling, with Vlaar, I'd rather we till the summer. It also gives a chance to see if Evans and Smalling can regain their fitness and form.
 
Glanville95 said:
Couldn't we sign Vlaar on a pre-agreement contract in January if he doesn't commit to Villa? I'd be willing to wait a few months and he could prove to be a huge coup, especially on a free.
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If I'm not wrong we can do that only with the players playing in a different country and not England.
 
There is a mad rumour going around, especially among Villa fans, that we already have agreed terms but let Villa keep him until January.
My mate is a hardcore Villa fan, living in Brum, said it's all the talk among the fans

And no, I'm not licking Keane's balls before I get more shit over it
 
I'm sure he would have something agreed something provisional with van Gaal and it could be a real option depending on how other business goes in January.
 
.Rossi said:
There is a mad rumour going around, especially among Villa fans, that we already have agreed terms but let Villa keep him until January.
My mate is a hardcore Villa fan, living in Brum, said it's all the talk among the fans

And no, I'm not licking Keane's balls before I get more shit over it
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Just his cock?
 
He has 6 months left on his contract doesn't he? Villa apparently want 12 million, seems a bit steep.
 
Getsme said:
He has 6 months left on his contract doesn't he? Villa apparently want 12 million, seems a bit steep.
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I think it comes down to how badly that manager wants him. Look at Vermaelen during the last window, only a year left on his deal but both Barca and us needed a player like him (injury record and quality up for debate), so if van Gaal believes our defence is in "crisis", I wouldn't be surprised at 10-12 million.

That's assuming he is really keen on Vlaar.
 
Even for free I wouldn't take him. I rather spend 12M trying to sort our injury issues, changing the pitch, doctors or even signing wizards (hahaha) than having him at the club. He has not the quality to win us the league, to lift our defense, and when he's fit Evans is a far better player. Having 3 injury prone defender is worrying, but having a average one (in Vlaar) is also worrying for us.

I'd rather take Phil Jaglielka than Vlaar. He's never injured and proved in the PL. If LVG choose an average defender I'd rather have him.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
I think it comes down to how badly that manager wants him. Look at Vermaelen during the last window, only a year left on his deal but both Barca and us needed a player like him (injury record and quality up for debate), so if van Gaal believes our defence is in "crisis", I wouldn't be surprised at 10-12 million.

That's assuming he is really keen on Vlaar.
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Yeah, Villa will have LVG by his massive balls over Vlaar.
 
Honestly, I'd much rather have Paddy McNair playing right centre-half than Ron Vlaar. Vlaar looked good in a tactical set up that suited him at Brazil 2014 but he has never been a stand out performer in the Premier League. I do not think he offers anything Jones, Smalling or Evans can't.
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
Vlaar was terrible last season for Aston Villa

Vlaar was very good for the Netherlands at the World Cup

Vlaar is injured since August

= Club football says more about a players as 7 games at a tournament
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He was excellent for Villa last season, voted their second best player after Delph. Which was some feat considering he was playing next to inexperienced player's who almost certainly won't cut it at Premier League level, the likes of Clark, Bacuna, Okore, Bennett, Lowton etc.

Man for man their defence last season was the worst in the League.
 
Tough and quick is something we've not had since Stam. I'd be willing to take a chance on big Ron, i think he's a good defender who could improve playing with our team and being managed by LVG. At least he can fecking head a ball unlike that shit house Evans.
 
.Rossi said:
There is a mad rumour going around, especially among Villa fans, that we already have agreed terms but let Villa keep him until January.
My mate is a hardcore Villa fan, living in Brum, said it's all the talk among the fans

And no, I'm not licking Keane's balls before I get more shit over it
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Vlaar has been out since August with the same persistent calf problem he's been struggling with for the last two years. He also went through a nightmare spell of injuries at Feyenoord, breaking a bone bone in foot, then doing his cruciate, then getting a bacterial infection, then damaging his medial ligament, then doing the same cruciate again. I had a quick look on a Villa forum last week and they were complaining about how difficult it was for him to stay fit.

I don't have a problem with us signing a stop gap CB but is this really the guy we want given how injury prone our current CBs are? Even if Vlaar hasn't missed quite as many games as they have he's still going to be an injury concern during his time here and that will only get worse as he physically declines from this point on.

If we're going to sign a relatively average CB then he should at least be one with no major injury concerns imo.
 
Really wouldnt want Vlaar at Utd dont think he'd improve on anything we have, would rather see Blackett get more games. If we sign any CB's I'd like to see someone who is out first choice across the back 4, not someone who is no better than what we have.

Personally I think with games and IF they can stay injury free Smalling, Jones, Evans are all far better and have much more potential than Vlaar.
 
So, we're going to sign an injury prone back CB to cover for our other injury prone back up CB's. Makes sense.
 
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