Riyad Mahrez | Staying at Leicester

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What are you going on about? He claimed we'd be invincible by signing Mahrez. Mahrez is a good player but he's not the game changer. He's a upgrade on our current options.

Stop putting words in my mouth, I said invincible in the EPL, not the world / CL lol. Don't see how any English club would be able to compete with the overall strength, balance, and quality of United if Mahrez were to join is all I'm saying.

...and so EPL POTY from just 2 years ago isn't a game changer? Alrighty then. The latter, definitely agree just don't see why people are against it as it's not even debatable.
 
Stop putting words in my mouth, I said invincible in the EPL, not the world / CL lol. Don't see how any English club would be able to compete with the overall strength, balance, and quality of United if Mahrez were to join is all I'm saying.

...and so EPL POTY from just 2 years ago isn't a game changer? Alrighty then. The latter, definitely agree just don't see why people are against it as it's not even debatable.

You should honestly write to him and ask to become his agent. Nobody can write the Mahrez brochure as you have.
 
Castles also claimed we are after Lemar and Sanchez. Take with a pinch of he knows feck all salt I'd say.
 
Castles also said Blind and Mata would be the first 2 players sold by Jose. Guess who started our last 3 Premier League games?
 
You should honestly write to him and ask to become his agent. Nobody can write the Mahrez brochure as you have.

Funny enough I said Matic would make a massive difference to our squad when United were in the market for a CDM and many on the caf were against him, saying his best days were behind him and the price to acquire him wouldn't be justified compared to other options out there just as people are jumping the gun on Mahrez here. Not to brag or anything but I'd say I have a keen eye on things like this and can generally see what adding 1+1 would get us. Some people are acting like Mahrez finding his form from 2 years ago while undoubtedly improving our RW regardless of that is more unlikely than DDG scoring a last minute GWer. Talent like that doesn't just evaporate over a championship hangover campaign :lol:
 
Am happy with the line up in our first three games, but we are only a couple of injuries away from playing Ashley Young or Lingard as right winger ffs.
Mahrez is better than Mata (I like Mata a lot but don't think you could question Mahrez is a better right winger than Mata).
Mahrez is relatively cheap and much like the Matic transfer, if you can get the Mahrez of 2 years ago you've got a hell of a player that solves quite a few of our current issues.
No brainer for me and annoying we don't even seem to be interested.
 
I don't think we will sign anybody but I wouldn't pay much attention to Castles. He's been shit this summer.
 
Am happy with the line up in our first three games, but we are only a couple of injuries away from playing Ashley Young or Lingard as right winger ffs.
Mahrez is better than Mata (I like Mata a lot but don't think you could question Mahrez is a better right winger than Mata).
Mahrez is relatively cheap and much like the Matic transfer, if you can get the Mahrez of 2 years ago you've got a hell of a player that solves quite a few of our current issues.
No brainer for me and annoying we don't even seem to be interested.

Ffs stop making him out to be as good as Ronaldo or Messi now...clearly he's a one hit wonder and average at best...right :confused:
 
Funny enough I said Matic would make a massive difference to our squad when United were in the market for a CDM and many on the caf were against him, saying his best days were behind him and the price to acquire him wouldn't be justified just as people are jumping the gun on Mahrez here. Not to brag or anything but I'd say I have a keen eye on things like this and can generally see what adding 1+1 would get us. Some people are acting like Mahrez finding his form from 2 years ago while undoubtedly improving our RW is more unlikely than DDG scoring a last minute GWer. Talent like that doesn't just evaporate over a championship hangover campaign :lol:

Congratulations on Matic. I don't think you're bragging at all don't worry. I thought Matic would be a great signing too. Does that now give me the same credibility as you?

Nobody is suggesting Mahrez isn't a good player(I may have said he isn't very good in my opinion but that's more in the context of how he's rated compared to other players and how he's rated in the media) but saying things like he's a counter attacking beast and over egging the pudding more and more every time someone has questions about it isn't helpful. Danny Simpson looked great that year too and had a hangover last year and has also started the season well. Shall we sign him too? Oh no it's only Danny Simpson though. We don't afford Danny Simpson the same courtesy as Mahrez.

We barely will have the chance to play counter attack against most teams.

For what it's worth I don't think we will buy him. It's a no brainer for most clubs in the world if he's as good as you say he is but here we are and he's still at Leicester. This isn't a guy who is completely inaccessible, he can easily be got if a major club wanted him. It's not like Vardy where he's turned down a big club and signed a new deal, literally no club has gone after him strongly, if they had he'd have gone by now. To me there has to be a reason for that and it's clear that clubs themselves don't rate him that highly too. Maybe their scouting departments aren't as in depth as you and haven't identified his qualities that you have. Or maybe they have and still don't think he is good enough.
 
Ffs stop making him out to be as good as Ronaldo or Messi now...clearly he's a one hit wonder and average at best...right :confused:
When Leicester were winning the title, people were creaming themselves over Mahrez and stories about Barca being interested were being touted around. Last season, like the whole of the Leicester team they seemed to take it easy, apart from in the CL.
He won't get a chance to take his foot off the gas at Mourinho's Utd. If he can get back to that form from the year before last he'll be well worth every penny of £50m.
And we need a winger !!
 
I think if this was going to happen there'd be a lot more rumour and movement by this stage. We're 35 hours away from the window shutting. Even if there's some interest there seems to be no urgency from the player's part or ours.
 
Ffs stop making him out to be as good as Ronaldo or Messi now...clearly he's a one hit wonder and average at best...right :confused:

His stats were similar to Mata last year so if he is average at best than Mata is also average at best.

In Leicesters title winning season he was one of the most exciting players of the league, you don't just stop knowing how to play football like that. Last year he seemed like he didn't want to be in Leicester just like most of the squad, Ranieri's magic had faded. Mahrez was probably disappointed a big move didn't happen for him and he has lost his motivation a bit because one year you are playing for the champions and the next you are midtable and fighting for nothing anymore. I don't believe he suddenly became a shit player, his stats certainly suggest he isn't shit and I just think he needs the right motivation to get back to his best self, something which I think Mourinho at United could provide for him.
 
Mahrez is quality player, shame we are not interested. We will have good threat from both wings if we sign him.
 
His stats were similar to Mata last year so if he is average at best than Mata is also average at best.

In Leicesters title winning season he was one of the most exciting players of the league, you don't just stop knowing how to play football like that. Last year he seemed like he didn't want to be in Leicester just like most of the squad, Ranieri's magic had faded. Mahrez was probably disappointed a big move didn't happen for him and he has lost his motivation a bit because one year you are playing for the champions and the next you are midtable and fighting for nothing anymore. I don't believe he suddenly became a shit player, his stats certainly suggest he isn't shit and I just think he needs the right motivation to get back to his best self, something which I think Mourinho at United could provide for him.

Ranieri was why they failed last season, the tinker man came to the fore. When they went back to playing football similar to their title winning season everyone performed better
 
I thought people would have learnt from the Matic saga.

Other players in the league ARE as good/better than our players. Yes Mata is a lovely guy but his lack of athleticism is a huge miss from a wide area.
 
Nobody is suggesting Mahrez isn't a good player(I may have said he isn't very good in my opinion but that's more in the context of how he's rated compared to other players and how he's rated in the media) but saying things like he's a counter attacking beast and over egging the pudding more and more every time someone has questions about it isn't helpful. Danny Simpson looked great that year too and had a hangover last year and has also started the season well. Shall we sign him too? Oh no it's only Danny Simpson though. We don't afford Danny Simpson the same courtesy as Mahrez.

We barely will have the chance to play counter attack against most teams.

Except what I said is the fact of the matter regardless if you want to take it as fallacy or not, it's the truth and the type of player he is. If not, I'd be more than willing to see you disprove what I said.

Didn't know Danny Simpson is an elite player who possesses game breaking ability and is a previous EPL POTY. Not even going to bother with you honestly comparing Simpson to Mahrez in the same light :wenger:

...as for the latter, what are you on mate? Do you not know who our manager is and how deadly the counter attack has looked in the first 3 games alone? It's literally what JM is known for and United play the counter against nearly every opponent, especially against more attack quality sides who are generally a better rated side. What have you been watching these past 2 years lol. United have scored the most goals off the counter so far in the league and have generated the most counter attacking opportunities but whatever floats your boat I guess :)
 
If we lack one players it's a guy who can crack open a defence when the opposition is settled in their two banks of 4. Mahrez can
 
When Leicester were winning the title, people were creaming themselves over Mahrez and stories about Barca being interested were being touted around. Last season, like the whole of the Leicester team they seemed to take it easy, apart from in the CL.
He won't get a chance to take his foot off the gas at Mourinho's Utd. If he can get back to that form from the year before last he'll be well worth every penny of £50m.
And we need a winger !!
His stats were similar to Mata last year so if he is average at best than Mata is also average at best.

In Leicesters title winning season he was one of the most exciting players of the league, you don't just stop knowing how to play football like that. Last year he seemed like he didn't want to be in Leicester just like most of the squad, Ranieri's magic had faded. Mahrez was probably disappointed a big move didn't happen for him and he has lost his motivation a bit because one year you are playing for the champions and the next you are midtable and fighting for nothing anymore. I don't believe he suddenly became a shit player, his stats certainly suggest he isn't shit and I just think he needs the right motivation to get back to his best self, something which I think Mourinho at United could provide for him.

Just taking the piss hahaha. I'm definitely one for Mahrez and rate him highly. Bit of banter for those who are doing a total disrespect to the player and making him out to be some sort of slouch...put some damn respect on his name!
 
I think if this was going to happen there'd be a lot more rumour and movement by this stage. We're 35 hours away from the window shutting. Even if there's some interest there seems to be no urgency from the player's part or ours.
I agree. It should've been more fuss by now. Though transfers can happen quickly, but it's highly unlikely
 
Except what I said is the fact of the matter regardless if you want to take it as fallacy or not, it's the truth and the type of player he is. If not, I'd be more than willing to see you disprove what I said.

Didn't know Danny Simpson is an elite player who possesses game breaking ability and is a previous EPL POTY. Not even going to bother with you honestly comparing Simpson to Mahrez in the same light :wenger:

...as for the latter, what are you on mate? Do you not know who our manager is and how deadly the counter attack has looked in the first 3 games alone? It's literally what JM is known for and United play the counter against nearly every opponent, especially against more attack quality sides who are generally a better rated side. What have you been watching these past 2 years lol. United have scored the most goals off the counter so far in the league and have generated the most counter attacking opportunities but whatever floats your boat I guess :)

I think his point is that we need someone to help score the first goal, the 2nd, 3rd and 4th are obviously far easier for a team set up like ours to score. The counter attack isn't much use if you can't get the opposition to attack you. Mahrez was awful last season, but we are expected to look beyond a poor season... something that many are not prepared to do for other Leicester players. Most aren't even prepared to do it for our own players. Why should Mahrez be different? If we signed him and he struggled, it could be seen that he'd only really been anything special for one season.
 
Except what I said is the fact of the matter regardless if you want to take it as fallacy or not, it's the truth and the type of player he is. If not, I'd be more than willing to see you disprove what I said.

Didn't know Danny Simpson is an elite player who possesses game breaking ability and is a previous EPL POTY. Not even going to bother with you honestly comparing Simpson to Mahrez :wenger:

...as for the latter, what are you on mate? Do you not know who our manager is and how deadly the counter attack has looked in the first 3 games alone? It's literally what JM is known for and United play the counter against nearly every opponent, especially against more attack quality sides who are generally a better rated side. What have you been watching these past 2 years lol. United have scored the most goals off the counter so far in the league and have generated the most counter attacking opportunities but whatever floats your boat I guess :)

There's no arguing with you.

Let's now all belittle Danny Simpson who was involved in one of the best defences in the league when they won the league?

Mahrez the elite player who despite how good you claim him to be has still only had one good season. Yes I accept that his top level was great, so what? He's still had only one good elite level at the top. That doesn't mean it's guaranteed he'll become that good again. Nor does it mean he'll continue to be poor like last season. Why is it the great season he had he showed his true level but the poor season he showed 'just a hangover'? Because it suits your agenda presumably.

The season has just started, teams are a lot more open at the start of the season. You can 'lol' however much you want but it's true when I say we won't be able to play counter attack against most sides. Most of our counter attacking goals have been while already ahead. You can continue to belittle me but that's the truth.

EDIT - you seem to have glossed over the last part of my last post too.
 
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Muppets throwing shade at Castles because he brings bad news.:lol:
 
Why is it the great season he had he showed his true level but the poor season he showed 'just a hangover'? Because it suits your agenda presumably.

The season has just started, teams are a lot more open at the start of the season. You can 'lol' however much you want but it's true when I say we won't be able to play counter attack against most sides.

EDIT - you seem to have glossed over the last part of my last post too.

> it's called giving him the benefit of the doubt, just as Hazard was given when he won EPL POTY and had a shit season the following year. And before you put words in my mouth, no I'm not comparing Mahrez's quality to Hazard's as it's obvious the latter is clearly levels above. I'm saying he deserves the benefit of the doubt for that year he had.

> again, did you not watch United last season? Pretty much waited for a counter attacking situation to arise even when we were in dire need of goals and in big games throughout the season. Mourinho didn't budge for the most part - beginning to end - and stuck to his ways and will continue to. Don't know why you'd assume otherwise but w/e.

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For what it's worth I don't think we will buy him. It's a no brainer for most clubs in the world if he's as good as you say he is but here we are and he's still at Leicester. This isn't a guy who is completely inaccessible, he can easily be got if a major club wanted him. It's not like Vardy where he's turned down a big club and signed a new deal, literally no club has gone after him strongly, if they had he'd have gone by now. To me there has to be a reason for that and it's clear that clubs themselves don't rate him that highly too. Maybe their scouting departments aren't as in depth as you and haven't identified his qualities that you have. Or maybe they have and still don't think he is good enough.
I don't think it's likely we get him either but I sure as hell hope we do. And who cares about other clubs. No one really wanted Matic either but here we are. You assess the situation and if it makes sense you go ahead with it. The risk-reward is no different than if you were to get any other player as only time will tell if the move was worthwhile / if the player was able to gel. And like I've said previously in the thread, think there's a reason for concern when José doesn't trust Mata to play the full 90 out wide on a consistent basis. Goes to show he doesn't trust him there and he's not suited for the position. Whether or not Mahrez finds his POTY form or not, he'd still be an upgrade and more natural fit than Mata on the right side and that alone is worth it. Has much more to offer than what a declining Mata does and like others have mentioned, our current RW options are mostly central players being forced to play there and you can see the inefficiency/deficiency of that. It'd be a huge reward if Mahrez could find the consistency he had 2 season ago. If so, spectacular bonus, if not, still have a player who'll flash that brilliance from time to time and is a better fit than any options we currently have.


...and likewise, you have seemed to glossed over the first part of my last response to you too where you said I was "saying things like he's a counter attacking beast and over egging the pudding" and other things which I described Mahrez as. Would love to hear you disprove those things since you take it as fallacy.
 
> it's called giving him the benefit of the doubt, just as Hazard was given when he won EPL POTY and had a shit season the following year. And before you put words in my mouth, no I'm not comparing Mahrez's quality to Hazard's as it's obvious the latter is clearly levels above. I'm saying he deserves the benefit of the doubt for that year he had.

> again, did you not watch United last season? Pretty much waited for a counter attacking situation to arise even when we were in dire need of goals and in big games throughout the season. Mourinho didn't budge for the most part - beginning to end - and stuck to his ways and will continue to. Don't know why you'd assume otherwise but w/e.

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I don't think it's likely we get him either but I sure as hell hope we do. And who cares about other clubs. No one really wanted Matic either but here we are. You assess the situation and if it makes sense you go ahead with it. The risk-reward is no different than if you were to get any other player as only time will tell if the move was worthwhile / if the player was able to gel. And like I've said previously in the thread, think there's a reason for concern when José doesn't trust Mata to play the full 90 out wide on a consistent basis. Goes to show he doesn't trust him there and he's not suited for the position. Whether or not Mahrez finds his POTY form or not, he'd still be an upgrade and more natural fit than Mata on the right side and that alone is worth it. Has much more to offer than what a declining Mata does and like others have mentioned, our current RW options are mostly central players being forced to play there and you can see the inefficiency/deficiency of that. It'd be a huge reward if Mahrez could find the consistency he had 2 season ago. If so, spectacular bonus, if not, still have a player who'll flash that brilliance from time to time and is a better fit than any options we currently have.


...and likewise, you have seemed to glossed over the first part of my last response to you too where you said I was "saying things like he's a counter attacking beast and over egging the pudding" and other things which I described Mahrez as. Would love to hear you disprove those things since you take it as fallacy.



He deserves the benefit of the doubt why? Because he showed a great level once? Hazard has been good for Chelsea immediately since he signed and kept improving. He wasn't as good as he is now but was obviously still seen as one of the top young talents in the world. Then had that great season, then struggled. Mahrez had one great season, Hazard has had more than that. Why do you keep bringing Hazard in to it?

I did watch us last season yes. We were slow and laborious. In many games teams sat back and we either struggled to break them down or we missed loads of chances. Where was the counter attack in these games? We played counter attacking football in less games than we didn't.

Yeah no one wanted Matic, but the first transfer window he was actually available he left to join another club who wanted him. That's clearly not the same thing as Mahrez. Mahrez has been available for three windows now and he's still at Leicester, it's absolutely nothing like the Matic situation. Again just like Hazard, you've brought Matic in to the discussion for no reason whatsoever.

I don't disagree that Mourinho perhaps doesn't trust Mata fully. Would Mahrez be a better fit than Mata? Probably yes. The point I'm making is that he's a good player but you seem to be overrating him massively and not budging at all which doesn't lead to a very good discussion where you just shoot down everything I say because you are right and I am not and that's final.

I haven't glossed over it. You clearly are over egging the pudding by saying he's a counter attacking beast. He wasn't a counter attacking beast last season. And you can't again come back to the 'hangover' of last season. He's a counter attacking beast but wasn't actually a counter attacking beast last season. He was a beast for one season maybe. As a Leicester player he has much better counter attacking opportunities than most players at bigger clubs and he only did it in one season, two years ago. I once had sex 30 times in a month 2 years ago but now have only had sex once in the last 6 months (sad I know). That doesn't make me a sexual beast. If you're willing to compromise and say I'm a sexual beast then fine.
 
Mahrez is not just a counter attacking player in fairness. In fact, what I really like about is that he doesn't really need space to go past players. Seems to be one those players who's great at beating players from a standing position.
 
Mahrez is not just a counter attacking player in fairness. In fact, what I really like about is that he doesn't really need space to go past players. Seems to be one those players who's great at beating players from a standing position.

I'm not gonna argue with that as you're right but he's not the counter attacking beast that he's been lauded for in this thread.
 
Not going to happen is clearly not a Jose player either and I'm struggling to understand how anyone thinks he is. Downed tools last season and just didn't do enough to be at a club like United
 
I'm not gonna argue with that as you're right but he's not the counter attacking beast that he's been lauded for in this thread.

Yeah I would agree. He's not even that quick. He's on the slower side if anything. His dribbling and creativity would be his main asset if we signed him.
 


Info Mercato: Mahrez on stand-by. His entourage is in England on a case where new negotiations. AS Roma out of the race.
 
He deserves the benefit of the doubt why? Because he showed a great level once? Hazard has been good for Chelsea immediately since he signed and kept improving. He wasn't as good as he is now but was obviously still seen as one of the top young talents in the world. Then had that great season, then struggled. Mahrez had one great season, Hazard has had more than that. Why do you keep bringing Hazard in to it?

Yeah no one wanted Matic, but the first transfer window he was actually available he left to join another club who wanted him. That's clearly not the same thing as Mahrez. Mahrez has been available for three windows now and he's still at Leicester, it's absolutely nothing like the Matic situation. Again just like Hazard, you've brought Matic in to the discussion for no reason whatsoever.

I don't disagree that Mourinho perhaps doesn't trust Mata fully. Would Mahrez be a better fit than Mata? Probably yes. The point I'm making is that he's a good player but you seem to be overrating him massively and not budging at all which doesn't lead to a very good discussion where you just shoot down everything I say because you are right and I am not and that's final.

I haven't glossed over it. You clearly are over egging the pudding by saying he's a counter attacking beast. He wasn't a counter attacking beast last season. And you can't again come back to the 'hangover' of last season. He's a counter attacking beast but wasn't actually a counter attacking beast last season. He was a beast for one season maybe. As a Leicester player he has much better counter attacking opportunities than most players at bigger clubs and he only did it in one season, two years ago. I once had sex 30 times in a month 2 years ago but now have only had sex once in the last 6 months (sad I know). That doesn't make me a sexual beast. If you're willing to compromise and say I'm a sexual beast then fine.

> Hazard joined a Chelsea side which has finished top3 in all but 1 of his 5 full years there and won 2 EPL titles in that span. Mahrez joined a Leicester side that'd just been promoted to the EPL in his first full year, establishing themselves finishing 14th and winning the league the next. Then falling off a cliff as Leicester lost key players last year and the team fell apart with the sacking of Ranieri and partially gave up on the league saving up for the CL. So that's 2 out of 3 full seasons where Leicester finished out of the top10. Wouldn't it be fair to say Hazard has had more than one great season because majority of his years on Chelsea he's been on far greater Chelsea teams? Mahrez had only 1 year with such a team and everyone knows what he was capable of and showcased then. If you swapped Mahrez's and Hazard's EPL careers around, it wouldn't be far fetched to say Hazard would be the one with "one great season" on Leicester while Mahrez would have "more than that" and be the one who's "kept improving" on a much much stronger Chelsea side over the years ...it's almost as if you're not taking into account the level of quality of teams both players have played on or something? Not hard to imagine Mahrez would have more of those one great seasons if he joined a rising, quality side like United to compliment his talents similar to what Hazard has been a part of his entire Chelsea career...
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And as for the he's only had 1 great season, Mahrez has been pretty damn consistent in his tenure in the EPL. It's obvious he's an exceptional creator more than a scorer who for the most part just didn't have a clinical forward except for the league winning year where Vardy and seemingly everyone went off and had the seasons of a lifetime.

> It's a similar situation is what I'm saying. Doesn't matter if Matic was bought whilst Mahrez hasn't yet, that's for other teams to decide on and doesn't make them correct if they decide not to. You'll never know until you pull the trigger to see if said player works out or not. Until then, you're just taking a hypothetical and assuming it to be fact as to why he's not of much quality or rated highly when he's shown otherwise.

> as you say, he'd be a better fit "probably yes", and a clear cut one at that. Even during the "bad season" he had last year he put up similar numbers to Mata and being a natural RWer, he'd obviously be better suited there even if he kept that ratio which I'm certain he wouldn't (benefit of the doubt) which was due to the hangover and the falling apart of Leicester in general.

> again, still not disproving anything of which I described him as ("over egging the pudding") and saying things such as that doesn't help prove it either.
 
> Hazard joined a Chelsea side which has finished top3 in all but 1 of his 5 full years there and won 2 EPL titles in that span. Mahrez joined a Leicester side that'd just been promoted to the EPL in his first full year, establishing themselves finishing 14th and winning the league the next. Then falling off a cliff as Leicester lost key players last year and the team fell apart with the sacking of Ranieri and partially gave up on the league saving up for the CL. So that's 2 out of 3 full seasons where Leicester finished out of the top10. Wouldn't it be fair to say Hazard has had more than one great season because majority of his years on Chelsea he's been on far greater Chelsea teams? Mahrez had only 1 year with such a team and everyone knows what he was capable of and showcased then. If you swapped Mahrez's and Hazard's EPL careers around, it wouldn't be far fetched to say Hazard would be the one with "one great season" on Leicester while Mahrez would have "more than that" and be the one who's "kept improving" on a much much stronger Chelsea side over the years ...it's almost as if you're not taking into account the level of quality of teams both players have played on or something? Not hard to imagine Mahrez would have more of those one great seasons if he joined a rising, quality side like United to compliment his talents similar to what Hazard has been a part of his entire Chelsea career...
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And as for the he's only had 1 great season, Mahrez has been pretty damn consistent in his tenure in the EPL. It's obvious he's an exceptional creator more than a scorer who for the most part just didn't have a clinical forward except for the league winning year where Vardy and seemingly everyone went off and had the seasons of a lifetime.

> It's a similar situation is what I'm saying. Doesn't matter if Matic was bought whilst Mahrez hasn't yet, that's for other teams to decide on and doesn't make them correct if they decide not to. You'll never know until you pull the trigger to see if said player works out or not. Until then, you're just taking a hypothetical and assuming it to be fact as to why he's not of much quality or rated highly when he's shown otherwise.

> as you say, he'd be a better fit "probably yes", and a clear cut one at that. Even during the "bad season" he had last year he put up similar numbers to Mata and being a natural RWer, he'd obviously be better suited there even if he kept that ratio which I'm certain he wouldn't (benefit of the doubt) which was due to the hangover and the falling apart of Leicester in general.

> again, still not disproving anything of which I described him as ("over egging the pudding") and saying things such as that doesn't help prove it either.

Exactly Hazard joined Chelsea. Nothing at all to do with Mahrez, you can continue bringing him up but he's got nothing to do with it. Mahrez joined Leicester because he was not as good as Hazard. Let's not bring up hypotheticals that if Mahrez was at Chelsea or if Hazard was at Leicester. Hazard is a much better player which you obviously know. Mahrez is at Leicester at the moment because he's not yet been deemed good enough for a bigger club. Hazard was deemed good enough years ago.

He has only had one full good season, you can't argue against that with an abundance of stats or not but there's no way or loophole around it.

It's not a similar situation at all. As I've said Mahrez has been there and available for three windows and no one has bought him, Matic was at a big club like Chelsea and won the league twice in 3 years and as soon as he was available to leave he was snapped up. I'm not sure what's difficult to understand about it. Matic has not been available for 3 consecutive transfer windows, Mahrez has and even himself clearly wants to move.

Here we go with the hangover again. I've accepted he'd be a better fit than Mata and you've given up nothing in return and are completely stuck in your own opinion.

I don't need to disprove that he's not a 'counter attacking beast' because in his entire career he's proven he's only been that consistently good in one season. I'm not saying he's not been good in other seasons but he's not a 'counter attacking beast' because he was great for one season and neither because you say it. A counter attacking beast would be someone who kills teams on the break constantly. Not a guy who did extremely well in a single season consistently but hasn't put up similar numbers or consistency in any other season or indeed in his entire career.

The stats you've put up there don't show he's a counter attacking beast. I'm not here arguing if he's a good player or not, he clearly is. For literally the hundredth time though, he's not a 'counter attacking beast.'

We can go on this merry go round all day anyway. I won't be replying again.

EDIT - make a thread or poll asking if Mahrez is a 'counter attacking beast' or quite good at counter attacking. I doubt the beast option would have as many as the other option. And that's not because all of Redcafe is right or wrong. It'll just show that you're being slightly unreasonable about it.
 
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