Never said he was a slouch anywhere, you said he had a high work rate which isn't the truth either though. POTY two years ago doesn't really mean anything in the present day.
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Never said he was a slouch anywhere, you said he had a high work rate which isn't the truth either though. POTY two years ago doesn't really mean anything in the present day.
I wouldn't say no to getting him in, would offer us a bit more pace and creativity on the right and he can produce a good cross as well.
I wouldnt be against.
if the board is stepping in to our transfers and questioning the manager i will be very shocked and dissapointed. We arent chelsea
Why? Because half our fans can't spell his name?
I'm sure he'll be good when he gets used to the league and teammates.
My best bait yet, 3 fish hooked!
But seriously, you can't make a signing a failure 3 games into the season. And equally you can't make one a success after such short time
If mourinho is confident that he can work with him, Improve him or get his consistancy going I think we should do this deal. Would add that creativity in the final theird we lack against high pressing opponents from the wide areas on the right . Plus his delivery's are quality and also goal scoring.
Have been a fan of this dude even before that wonder PL winning season. He's been great for Algeria as well. Mkhi, Martial and Mahrez could destroy packed defenses. If Jose thinks he fits his plans, getting him would be a great end to the transfer season.
Plus, we can pay with Cash + Lingard.
Plus, we can pay with Cash + Lingard.
You should support City. If wasting 50 million on a player who will give you 3 months is your thing then go suppirt city
Would be perfect for our right wing. Mata and Miki to fight out for the number 10 role
People say mourinho wont play mata, he does not play youngsters , he does not like creative players or play them, he Sold lukaku, he does not play academy graduates, He is a reactive manager ,He only plays 4231 .. and so on all the time.
All Mourinho stereotypical myths have been bursted.
Nice idea, but just something about him that doesn't fit, rather wait is he's the only option.
But.... he's going to get better with his left foot!
Think we agree
My best bait yet, 3 fish hooked!
But seriously, you can't make a signing a failure 3 games into the season. And equally you can't make one a success after such short time
I wouldn't have commented had you spelt his name right
He's a genius
Mata plays there against bus deep defending teams, But yeah against big sides he's not the one.
Is that you, Wenger?
Mata doesn't offer enough from there unfortunately. Mahrez with dribbling skills and pace would be more effective.
I know.
I wouldn't say so necessarily. Mikhi is more elusive in tight around defenders and in a way 'quicker' in that sense. I'd say Mahrez has the higher top end straight ahead speed.
Mikhi may be a tad more consistent (which isn't saying much as he's just beginning to settle in and still goes missing or silent often in games) but he doesn't have the top end talent Mahrez does. Mahrez is an elite player when he's on his game, Mikhi is a level below. I don't get what the matter is either. Even if we got Mahrez, he'd play on the right and it wouldn't take away from Mikhi who'd still stay at the CAM/no.10 position for this season (unless Griezmann joins in January which is unlikely). Mata becomes the odd man out and is not a bad thing giving more depth off the bench which totally outmatches other clubs.
And fwiw Mikhi in all Champions League competitions (including qualifiers),
Games Played: 44
Minutes Played: 3433
Goals: 4
Assists: 0
Average minutes per game: 78
Goals per game average: 0.091
Assists per game average: 0
vs.
Mahrez,
Games Played: 9
Minutes Played: 777
Goals: 4
Assists: 2
Average minutes per game: 86
Goals per game average: 0.44
Assists per game average: 0.22
...not a knock on Mikhi but just shows Mahrez is the more elite talent being an elite player. Sure Mikhi may be the slightest more consistent in the EPL but Mahrez has game break ability as shown by his numbers in the CL where the best face the best and it's all about that top end talent which Mahrez would provide us and any team with. Small sample size you may say. I say he makes the most of his limited chances which is a great attribute to have. 30+ less games and 2500+ less minutes than Mikhi in all CL competitions and he's scored the same amount of goals and has accumulated more assists. Goes to show the rate at which Mahrez is capable of producing at. And if Mahrez is as inconsistent as some same he is (he really isn't), could always play Mata to begin with (not really ideal to do but hypothetically speaking) and save Mahrez for the CL. Options are never a bad thing to have.
Might be a panic buy and his attitude looked poor at times last season but if City get Sanchez then we need someone to give us a boost. Sanchez is the better signing but Mahrez will lessen the gap and I think we'd have a strong side which could compete for the title.
Everything Jose looks in a player. If Jose wants him, he will get him. The club reps not being convinced is bull!
You got me! Damn...
Why does this have 3 pages of discussion based on one dodgy link? We ain't that thirsty surely
I am.
Good player but we have plenty of those behind the striker. No point in adding anymore numbers there unless the player is the aboslute elite quality, something in the Griezmann, Dybala, Sanchez bracket.
This guy on the right would be awesome, would easily dislodge mata from the starting 11.
Join the club. I'm salivating as we speak
Mahrez can run with the ball better than any players we have, he can also cross and take set pieces. He is a good age and used to the league and did well in the CL. What's not to like?
We need more quality if we want to challenge for the league that much is true. I can't stomach our shockingly impotent right side or the fact fans say we don't need any more players because we have Lingard and fecking Young.
Anyway after that mini rant I doubt we are even in for him or anyone else for that matter, can't wait for September 1st, my inner muppet has given up.
We need more quality if we want to challenge for the league that much is true. I can't stomach our shockingly impotent right side or the fact fans say we don't need any more players because we have Lingard and fecking Young.
Anyway after that mini rant I doubt we are even in for him or anyone else for that matter, can't wait for September 1st, my inner muppet has given up.
Think this is gonna happen. Would explain the 'messe basse' with Pogba.
Bargain for 45.
Bargain for 45.
Prefer Mahrez for a similar price to Perisic, got a lot more years in him.
POTY means quite a bit actually lol. Hazard won it in 2014/15 and had a atrocious season the following year. No one really jumped to conclusion and said it didn't mean anything because Hazard won it 2 years ago; everyone knew the quality he possesses. Likewise Mahrez won it in 2015/16 and had a down year last season. Not far fetched to say it was likely a EPL winning hangover campaign just as Hazard & Chelsea experienced + key pieces left the team such as Kante who funny enough won POY this past year. So similarly to Hazard, I'd say it's safe to Mahrez's elite talent didn't just evaporate away and being 26 years of age still has many more seasons of top end production to showcase. He's obviously not at the same level as Hazard (I consider him world class) but he is part of the same category being a lesser game breaking player but still one nonetheless (consider him world class). And vs Mikhi, he's neither and a level below.
hes exaclty 2 years younger. Not exactly a lot is it?
So to summarise...the general consensus is that he's a level below the elite player we should be looking to bring in and that he's not significantly better than what we have in terms of individual quality but he does offer something down the right (in that he's a better option than Valencia for all our right sided attacks) which we are lacking in terms of pace and crossing so sign him up?
Not so sure. When Perisic has a bad game he still offers something, Mahrez can be completely invisible.
Precisely this. Mata is good enough to get it done for an EPL winning side but not the CL and those are the ambitions United have and want to prove themselves in, against the worlds best. Mata's quite slow and it's clear he's not the player he once was a few years ago. José not trusting him to last the full 90 says something. Plus we need more touch line footy. Mata cuts inside too much and probably has to do with playing an off position whereas Mahrez offers wide play and is a natural fit out right. Mata seems to get fatigued easily and plays in bursts ...anyone who says Mahrez isn't an upgrade on Mata on the RW or not worth it surely doesn't know what they're talking about with all due respect.
Hahah so true
Well it doesn't because he had one great year and then was far less good the following season.
You can't just bring in someone like Hazard who's highest level places him amongst the best in the world and a distance beyond what Mahrez's is. I'm not saying that there wasn't a hangover with the loss of Kante but you'd have expected Mahrez to almost single handledly push Leicester up the table if he was at the level you say. And it's nothing to do with Hazard in itself as clearly the Chelsea squad has issues with downing tools at times, Leicester haven't downed tools, they're just not as good as the title winning season showed which was just a huge anomaly.
Not sure why you're bringing Mkhitaryan in to this. Mkhitaryan will play most games regardless of whether the great Riyad signs or not.
The irony that Mata has never won the EPL but has won the CL once and the EL twice
. And its not like he was a fringe player either.Is there actually anything somewhat reliable to suggest that we might be going for him?
Which still doesn't really change the base argument that Mahrez has had literally one decent season.
Mahrez is everything we wanted Januzaj to be.
The irony that Mata has never won the EPL but has won the CL once and the EL twice
I'll take it you missed the part where I said he's slowed down and isn't the player he once was, thus why I said he's good enough to get it done in the EPL like he is doing now on a United side but wouldn't be very effective against more higher end clubs in the CL.
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