I'd still have him here, Bayern have got a quality midfield it was always going to be difficult for him to get a regular spot.
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He seems like a 'jack of all trades' type of midfielder and they don't tend to fit in as well when you're playing a two man midfield (which we will be) so I'd steer clear.
Sanches is going to be a major star imo.
I never inferred he was technically better than those midfielders, I inferred you are babbling on about flaws you see in a teenagers game as if every midfielder should be technically gifted like Xavi or Scholes. Michael Carrick is one of the better ENgland midfielders technically for a long period of time but watch him in a lot of premiership games and he struggled with tight presses for a long period and he was in his mid twenties. There are of course lots of things Sanches can improve on, Im not even saying he will be world class, just that he would be a quality signing for us I personally would prefer over a lot of the flavours of the months being bandied about at the moment. And forgetting his age there is also far more to his game than justdetermination and physical attributes, his movement and awareness of space both moving into offensively and covering gaps defensively is already very very good. Out of interest who would you like us to sign as a central midfielder as apart from Veratti I dont see many I would rather have than Sanches personally.
I haven't seen much of him but the fact he is 19 and won the Golden Boy award last year means he must be worth a risk. I think we should be going in the same direction City are, getting rid of the dead weight and investing in young quality players. Secure the next decade.
The problem is you failed comprehension in English at school.
I am arguing against people claiming he can become world class.
I have mentioned that a number of times.
To become world class the technical abilities have to be there and they need to be there at the age Sanchez is. Experience over time improves skill, game understanding and reading of the game.
Sanchez will never be world class. I am very sure of that. He is and will be a very very good player.
What is your definition of world class and give examples of midfielders you deem(ed) are(were) world class
I wouldn't mind Renato Sanches even if he's the next Ando like some think he is. We are well short in midfield with Pogba, Herrera and Fellaini as our only realistic midfielders. We could get Sanches and probably still need another midfielder in the squad.
He's young and a high energy type of a player. When the season gets busy and we are looking jaded I would assume that he would have no problem giving us much needed thrust in the midfield.
He's young and a high energy type of a player. When the season gets busy and we are looking jaded I would assume that he would have no problem giving us much needed thrust in the midfield.
Ancelotti was the worst thing that could have happened to him. He's 19, he needs a loan and consistent game time in a top league. There's no way Bayern will sell him either, best case scenario for him they loan him to a Bundesliga team, worst case scenario, he stays as a squad option and warms the bench for most of the season.
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Naby Keita is twice the player Sanches is. We should be all over him before Liverpool manage to snap him up without competition. Why on earth would anyone entertain the idea of signing some flopped wonderkid who went to the press with stories about him rejecting United because he wanted to play with good players?
Forget Sanches, Keita, or Dier, I'd be trying my best to get Weigl instead.
At the same age Anderson was comfortably the better player.
To those who are wondering why Renato Sanches is being discussed, he is one of the very few players that we know that Mourinho has had concrete plans about bringing to Manchester. It is also likely that he is sold from Bayern this summer, being replaced by Leon Goretzka from Schalke. I certainly don't see the problem with discussing this player, when the alternative is discussing other players based on rumors that has been thrown out on Twitter by headless chickens. Mourinho has made it very clear that Manchester United did a mistake by not bringing in Renato Sanches last summer, and that the player himself made a mistake of choosing Bayern instead of United. To take it to the extreme, Pogba turned out to be a second choice behind Renato Sanches, since signing the latter last summer probably would mean that we didn't buy Pogba.
This is all i could think about from your post.
So we shouldnt sign him because he wont become world class just very very good? We shouldnt have signed Valencia, Carrick or Herrera either for example then. Why are you "arguing" with something that is merely a matter of opinion at this stage? Either he is a good siging or he isnt, if he isnt who would you rather we sign?
Wouldnt mind any. Dier personally is a no for me though as the price would be sky high and I just think he does the water carrier job well in that Tottenham side but is over rated being English. Not seen much of Keita but yes Weigl certainly wouldnt be bad, brings something totally different to the others. I would still choose Sanches personally as I think the energy and movement he would bring to our midfield would complement what we have.
I give up
I would agree with that to be fair, he was superb at Porto. Do you think a bit like Hargreaves we actually bought a player whose big injury earlier meant we had to a degree bought a dud that wasnt the same player we thought we were buying?
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What is he good at? Runs a lot, high energy but doesn't excel at anything in particular, the fact that he's young doesn't mean he's going to be top class either, the hype around this guy among United fans is insane, he's really nothing special.
Haha, sorry. I made a mistake. The rest of the post is rock solid, though.
You can agree or disagree about Renato Sanches being a good footballer, but Mourinho has made it clear that he likes him. That is all that matters when it comes to whether we are signing this kid or not, as long as Bayern and the player himself fancy a move for him.
I dont think his injuries helped, but he was still quality when we bought him. He played impressively at times early on here, it's just his own lack of drive that was his ultimate downfall.
Dont want renato. He rejected us last summer and then went to media to talk about it. Even pogba never said a bad word about us when he left for juve.
True, his first season he looked utter class. I kept saying to my friend "I want him to grasp the match more, he should be running the game, he can be the new Bryan Robson for us!"....seems crazy saying that now
This guy is like Edgar Davids...what a player he was!!!
I never said he has the same level of quality as Paul. But, he is closest to Paul from our current crop. And there is no way Sanches would displace him.
What about him reminds you of Davids? Sanches doesn't seem to have a very high football IQ and his technical abilities seem underwhelming.
I don't think he'll ever cut it at Bayern (yes, I know he's 19) and completely agree with what @Balu posted a page or two ago.
The way he moves, with power. The way he gets his shots away on goal. How all action he is.
This obsession with Sanches...I don't get it. And i don't have a problem praising rival players when they are good. United needs top quality after finishing 6th in the league. Renato Sanches isn't the answer for United's problems. He is a failed project at Bayern atm and needs to take a step back to a level where he can play and evolve with less pressure. Downgraded to Portugal U21 now. He may turn good eventually but he isn't european top club material yet imo. If he went to United, i'd bet be would spend most of the time in the bench as well. He can't displace any first choice United midfielder and what Manchester needs is proven quality.
The fact he's a small black quick centre mid with dreads reminds him of Davids.
Only the spectacles are missing.
I'll only take him if we are allowed to buy him. Class player but he would have to play in a midfield 3.
Pogba Sanches
Herrera
Class midfield that can last for years.
However I've only seen him at the Euros so I have no idea how good he is now but he was absolutely amazing then.
Pogba Sanches
Herrera
Class midfield that can last for years.
However I've only seen him at the Euros so I have no idea how good he is now but he was absolutely amazing then.
He would be a luxury buy. Dont think now is the time to bring through a homesick teenager, even if he is talented.
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The sad fact of the matter is he would currently be taking a step back leaving Bayern and coming here in context to where the two clubs are at the moment. We are a club that has failed until this season to get in the CL for a few years, not challenged for the title for a few years and not playing great football either. In that sense, moving to another huge club who are rebuilding is ideal for him if not the right move for us.
Also our current midfielders are short number wise, include a 35 year old who surely cant play too many games next season.....and Fellaini. Again the sad fact is, it hardly stacks up against trying to get beyond the likes of Vidal, Thiago, Alonso, Kimmich etc let alone there other new signing now.
I dont see how he wouldnt improve us? I dont want us to sign Eric Dier but if we did I still think he would improve on what we already have and would be a starter, whether Dier or Sanches improves us to a level we want them too is another thing altogether but we are certainly one central midfielder short at least
Even if we dismissed all other problems regarding him coming or his worth, he's not the defensive midfielder we need. He's more of a box-to-box. We would still have to buy someone else, so… Seems like a luxury buy. Although I'm sure Mourinho wanted him last season.
But why sign Dier or Sanches when you can do better? It's not like they are the only choices. Btw i rate Dier as the best player between the two (at least atm).
No I agree with what you are saying, it is all subjective isnt it. Personally beyond Veratti I think Sanches is about the best option of the players I have seen, Weigl would be another choice for totally different reasons. I cant confess to seeing the likes of Keita or Kessie some people are raving about but I would take Sanches over Dier, Bakayoko or Fabinho for example myself.
I actually like his lack of technical ability & think he would add something to our midfield but needs to grow in to his own game - which Jose would be more than capable to do.
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