Listen, if only Pereira had shown off his class while at loan at Bayern, instead of Granada…
Renato Sanches | Loaned to Swansea
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Well, a) Sanches showed shit at Bayern and b) I never said Pereira should be classed as "quality", just that Sanches needs to do a lot more than having signed for Bayern to make the cut himself.
I think he should. It's a gamble worth taking.
My concern is how it affects Pereira.
People tend to forget minor things that affect an young players' stay at a new club: Sanches is a boy from the hood, not a man of the world graduating on European Studies like Bernardo Silva, and he probably doesn't even speak English, never mind German, he must have felt completely out of place. He had a very bad season there and looks completely lost, but I'm pretty sure he hasn't lost everything he knows about football. He's risking his career like this, though.
I have yet to see any indication that Mourinho considers him one.
Are people not gravely concerned that Bayern (ultimate pragmatists) want to dump him after less than 12 months at the club?
They obviously think he's a lost cause/not worth the hassle, so why should we think any different?
They obviously think he's a lost cause/not worth the hassle, so why should we think any different?
I watched him a lot at Benfica but didn't see him last season. Think he's a very good prospect. I won't mind him and Fabinho coming in at all. Will give us very good depth.
Because we have a Portuguese friendly managing team that could help him settle and recover his footballing abilities, that's why.
He just needs to regain his confidence
It saddens me that Bayern picked such an unusual player and is trying to turn him into "another" midfielder. I see alot of resemblances with what Man Utd did with Anderson
It saddens me that Bayern picked such an unusual player and is trying to turn him into "another" midfielder. I see alot of resemblances with what Man Utd did with Anderson
this... I dont think he was portugals best player in euros 2016, but he was a key cog in their machine that won the Euros...
He was definitely promising and showed great talent, hes obviously down on confidence however. But he's definitely worth it for 15 million, people pay millions for 16 year old prospects these days, comparatively, he still has some experience.
Just dont see where he fits into the equation though.
Ideally we get a new CDM.
So we would have these midfielders:
Pogba, Herrera, Fellaini, Rooney (lol), Carrick, TFM, Andreas Perreira, New CDM, Sanches...
Yea some of the players can play in other positions, but their most likely in those positions(and for most cases best in them).
I really dont see how we fit him into our squad. I personally think TFM has the same potential, so I dont see why we would buy him unless we are intending to sell Fellaini (I personally think it'd be a mistake considering his unique assets) and Rooney, and maybe even loaning TFM.
I also dont see mourinho as a coach to try and develop a 19 year old midfielder in a season he wants to challenge for the title (and the club NEEDS to), especially one hes never worked with.
I don't think it's a case of Bayern not rating him.
I simply think they have come to the conclusion they can't give him the game time he needs and his value would only tank.
Better to recoup most of the money if that's the case.
Steer well clear of this lad.
Sanches is an attacking central midfielder, he was used brilliantly as #8 in Benfica's 4-4-2. Fosu-Mensah will never be that, so I don't see them competing for the same positions at all. Pogba, Fellaini, Pereira, yeah. In all likelihood, if he came, Mourinho would have to chose between him and Pereira.
And don't underestimate Mourinho's will to prove someone else wrong.
I wouldn't sell him - he is 19 years old, he is not the super talent the media wrote about but he is a fascinating talent - but in my opinion he should go to a club like Ajax, not Bayern or Utd, then maybe in 2 or 3 years....
But we are in danger to act as stupid as you with Pogba, maybe we have to buy him back sometime for a trillion....
Another average player we are linked with. 
At least this guy is very young and might turn out good.
At least this guy is very young and might turn out good.
People that I know who have even followed his career even more closely don't think he is as good as hyped. The general consensus is that he left Benfica way too early of the back of a 6 month career that is yet to prove whether the kid is the real deal or it was just a purple patch in a very good Benfica squad. Even while the move was on last season, he was still splitting Benfica fans. His physicality threw him ahead of his peers and Benfica as usual put a stupid release clause on his head, couple that with the magic hands of super and Jorge Mendez. This is what Benfica do, they sold it, Bayern bought the bait and now they've realised their error.
If he can't cut it at Bayern, where there is no pressure on him, in the midst of quality midfielders who he can learn from, is he going to now flourish at United? Even experienced players struggle when they move up to better leagues, how much more an unproven talent.
I don't get the language bit. Are they not Hispanic and Latina players there?
People are trying to cuddle him because of his age but he has been pretty awful in the last season, awful in the U21s too. If you really think the kid is all that, then let him go to a lesser club to hone his skills.
Too pragmatic to offer one of the worlds best midfielders what he was worth
He turned into Anderson, as many predicted. Still got a lot of time to turn it around but he's definitely let the hype get to him.
And again, Sanches is not an attacking midfielder neither was he used as a #8. He was generally the deeper of the two and shuttled about like a B2B. He is no where the levels of Pereira as far as attacking is concerned. Not even close.
The first bit reminded me of Mbappé, how funny!
If you mistake Mendes with Mendez, like other people here Sanches with Sanchéz, no wonder you think a Portuguese player from the hood will understand Spanish enough to get along with all the Bayern squad.
No reliable sources linking us to him, this is not happening.
WTF? Where, at Bayern? Cause at Benfica or Portugal I'm pretty sure… Regarding the Pereira comparison, maybe if he gets loan to Granada next season and performs so well attacking wise they get relegated, we can tell about that for sure.
So he's not great at tackling. No good in the air, not an attacking midfielder. Which position does he play? He's a good ball passer, he's keen to shoot, and can find the net at 60% shot accuracy. How is Sanchez worth £21m when Harrop is less than £1m?
That just isn't true.
In the last window this kid was apparently going to be one of the greats... if he can turn this shit so fast surely he can turn just as good just as fast.
You skipped the almost, meaning he was absolutely decisive that season, because when he was introduced in the team they went on an incredible unbeaten run that ended up with them stealing the league from Sporting. Anyone who accompanied that championship in detail knows this.
One was hyped and bought for big bucks and is still on a long term contract. The other is an academy product, and is out of contract
The way you worded it made it sound like he was the only reason they won it. He was a big part of the reason, not the sole reason.
I swear most of the comparisons people make here are influenced by appearance. Martial the next Henry. R. Sanchez another Anderson. If Sanchez was white, we would be comparing him with Cleverly for sure.
Can any player be the sole reason for the success of a team, really?
Sanches is a kid that entered in a very unbalanced Benfica midfield and brought a lot to the team. The power he put in the game made an huge impact in the team.
His main qualities are is ability to transport the ball, his strenght, stamina and his unreal equilibrium.
He has a good shot that can improve. Is speed is in a very good level for a central midfielder, especially taking into account his great strenght.
His dribbling in not that awful as some people make it, but he should be more conscious of his capabilities and don't dribble that often.
He lacks vision and passing ability, crucial for a creative midfielder, so it's sure he will never be one of those. I didn't watch his season in Bayern, only saw weekly the youtube videos "Renato Sanches vs ..." but he seemed to have evolved a little in his passes.
He his obviously mentally affected and this under 21 tournament that was very obvious. He lacks confience and I think the main responsible is Benfica/Mendes who sold him too early. He is an hood kid, who is clearly not mature enough to take the step he took. A kid without that mental stability sudenly is surrounded by the best players in the world and have to show something that confirms his price tag. It his too much for him. I rate him as a talented kid with very uncommon habilities for his age, who is being destroyed by the hype around him. I really like him and would be very happy if he reach a sucessful career and i think the best thing he can to is to take one step back to give two furthers eventually. A return to Benfica would be awesome, but his pricetag is too much for the club.
His main qualities are is ability to transport the ball, his strenght, stamina and his unreal equilibrium.
He has a good shot that can improve. Is speed is in a very good level for a central midfielder, especially taking into account his great strenght.
His dribbling in not that awful as some people make it, but he should be more conscious of his capabilities and don't dribble that often.
He lacks vision and passing ability, crucial for a creative midfielder, so it's sure he will never be one of those. I didn't watch his season in Bayern, only saw weekly the youtube videos "Renato Sanches vs ..." but he seemed to have evolved a little in his passes.
He his obviously mentally affected and this under 21 tournament that was very obvious. He lacks confience and I think the main responsible is Benfica/Mendes who sold him too early. He is an hood kid, who is clearly not mature enough to take the step he took. A kid without that mental stability sudenly is surrounded by the best players in the world and have to show something that confirms his price tag. It his too much for him. I rate him as a talented kid with very uncommon habilities for his age, who is being destroyed by the hype around him. I really like him and would be very happy if he reach a sucessful career and i think the best thing he can to is to take one step back to give two furthers eventually. A return to Benfica would be awesome, but his pricetag is too much for the club.
Bayern should have loaned him back to ye last season.
Yeah the the Anderson comparisons seem to be tinged with certain unsavory racial overtones.
They play pretty much the same position.
They could play the same position but that doesn't make the comparisons any less unseemly.
I disagree that its racism. I see a lot of Anderson in his playing style TBH.
I didn't say it was. I said it was tinged with a subtext of racial overtones. It happens a lot of in sport where players of the same race get compared to one another.
We should just go for Goretzka who Bayern will definitely buy if they sell Sanches.
No, and that's why I said it wasn't true. Because of how you worded it.
I know he's young but I'd expect the basics for such a huge sum of money, otherwise you're better off giving a chance to a home grown youngster
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