Renato Sanches | Loaned to Swansea

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Do Bayern ever get it wrong when selling players, even more so with youth? I can't think of one that jumps out. If Bayern don't want him isn't that a red light we should be concerned about?
 
Zii said:
Do Bayern ever get it wrong when selling players, even more so with youth? I can't think of one that jumps out. If Bayern don't want him isn't that a red light we should be concerned about?
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Not at all. They may just not be patient enough to develop him over a couple of years when there are other midfielders available. Moreover, I think Jose and staff would do a much better job of developing him given the Portuguese connection.
 
He is a player who has a lot of energy, can carry the ball forward at speed. He is strong and has good technique. Would be an outstanding signing for us
 
Zii said:
Do Bayern ever get it wrong when selling players, even more so with youth? I can't think of one that jumps out. If Bayern don't want him isn't that a red light we should be concerned about?
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They sold Hummels and kroos
 
Don't mind a punt on him if he's available for 35m euros. Question is where he is going to play often with Ander and Pogba in the midfield? He's not a DM but more of a box to box midfielder i think
 
SATA said:
Don't mind a punt on him if he's available for 35m euros. Question is where he is going to play often with Ander and Pogba in the midfield? He's not a DM but more of a box to box midfielder i think
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Yeah he's definitely box to box. Thing is, with all the fixtures, injuries, suspensions, loss of form etc, he would probably have loads of chances to get playing time.
 
The best thing for the kid is probably to go back to benfica, play regular minutes and hopefully make Portugal's WC team.

One option is to offer Bayern 25+15 and then send him back on loan to benfica with incentives based on how many minutes he gets.
 
SATA said:
Don't mind a punt on him if he's available for 35m euros. Question is where he is going to play often with Ander and Pogba in the midfield? He's not a DM but more of a box to box midfielder i think
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We need more depth and more quality. This guy offers both. Pogba, Herrera, Sanches, Perreira, Carrick, Afro and 1 x cdm. All set, with Carrick and Afro being used in emergency
 
Already said it last year: I do not think he is anything special. Still young though so this could change but no way in the world we should pay 30 Mio EUR or more.
 
How much did Bayern bought him from Benfica for? Will they be making a loss from selling him now? It's a strange signing when it happened as i don't really see him fitting into Bayern's style of play
 
Zii said:
Do Bayern ever get it wrong when selling players, even more so with youth? I can't think of one that jumps out. If Bayern don't want him isn't that a red light we should be concerned about?
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Kroos?
 
Bastian said:
You think he'd rather go on loan to a second tier club than just move to a proper one? I mean, he was top dog at Benfica and played in the European final and won. Can't see him be willing to do that just to maybe make it at Bayern.
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When I wrote second tier I was thinking 'anything outside Bayern, Real, Barca, PL top 6' - so there would be plenty of good clubs left with a lot less stiff competition for the spots in the lineup.
 
cheeky_backheel said:
So? that does not guarantee anything in the future, particularly if he does not get the quality minutes required to develop
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Depends on his mentality, physical development. Renato's mentality is not one of the best out there
 
cheeky_backheel said:
There is nothing that guarantees that would happen.
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Nothing is guaranteed but it's likely and doesnt matter; completely different players. Renato Sanches is a box - to - box whilst Angel Gomes plays at 10, on the wing or as a playmaker in 8 (in a three mans midfield). Whilst Renato is all about his physique, power and running power Angel Gomes is a technical dribbler, passer with creativity and playmaking. They wouldnt exclude each other in any sense.
 
prtk0811 said:
Kroos dint suit pep philosophy. He aint a midfeilder who isused to pass sideways and backwards.
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The point being Bayern got this one wrong as well as the Hummels transfer to Dortmund buddy. I wasn't debating anything else.

@cheeky_backheel beat me to it
 
prtk0811 said:
Depends on his mentality, physical development. Renato's mentality is not one of the best out there
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Regardless of what you think of Renato's mentality, he is currently the better player and there is nothing that guarantees that Gomes will be better than him at any point in time.

Any decision being made on Sanches should be with consideration of similar alternatives and not premised on a 16yr old, with only a single senior game under his belt, coming good on his potential
 
cheeky_backheel said:
Any decision being made on Sanches should be with consideration of similar alternatives and not premised on a 16yr old, with only a single senior game under his belt, coming good on his potential
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Alternatives include loanee return who had a very good loan spell andreas peierera.
 
Only if we could get him on the cheap but I doubt Bayern will sell for peanuts. They better loan him out for a year
 
Sanches does remind me of Davids. He's very strong and hardworking + he seem to have moved to a big club too early in his career. Should we sign him up? That's difficult to say. After what happened with Bastian and Hargreaves I'd be careful buying players from Bayern
 
GhastlyHun said:
When I wrote second tier I was thinking 'anything outside Bayern, Real, Barca, PL top 6' - so there would be plenty of good clubs left with a lot less stiff competition for the spots in the lineup.
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Even so. If he's already been top dog at a good European club, why go out on loan. Why not just move to another club?
 
Bastian said:
Even so. If he's already been top dog at a good European club, why go out on loan. Why not just move to another club?
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Because I don't believe any of the top clubs would really be open to him right now, not after his debut season at Bayern.
 
prtk0811 said:
Don't need him now one bit, In 3-4 years angel gomes will be better than him .
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3-4 years in football terms is a lifetime. You could sign Sanchez and he could see out a full 4 year contract before even worrying about Angel Gomes.


Not signing a player because we have one that might be as good in 4 fecking years? Jesus I've seen it all now.
 
devilish said:
Sanches does remind me of Davids. He's very strong and hardworking + he seem to have moved to a big club too early in his career. Should we sign him up? That's difficult to say. After what happened with Bastian and Hargreaves I'd be careful buying players from Bayern
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Whoscored have tackling down as a weak point for him. His decision making and work rate has also been questioned by people on here who have seen more of him. Edgar Davids he certainly isn't. He's basically Anderson and, that people want him here after putting up with that salad dodger for so many years, makes me question the cafs collective sanity.
 
Wasn't he delighted that he rejected us for Bayern Munich last summer? He was so happy about the decision that he made that he was telling the press constantly about it for the first 3 months he was there. I hope we don't get him at all and would be glad to see him get 0 playtime in Bayern, rot in their reserves and has his development hindered.

Petty? Yes, but a player that is pretty vocal about his decision of rejecting us shouldn't be here.
 
We need an rvn said:
Mistake yes, but Kroos wanted to leave. A bit different situation than them selling a player they thought wouldn't make it.
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Kroos didn't want to leave. Kroos, or his agent, even approached the club for an extension. It was only when the club tried to lowball him and treated him like some meaningless rotational player that he decided to leave the club. Which in itself is quite stupid from the club. When you consider that Pep planned for Kroos to anchor his team for years and be the key element to a new Bayern team it becomes even more stupid.
Kroos is by far the most stupid and unnecessary thing I've ever seen us do.
 
prtk0811 said:
Don't need him now one bit, In 3-4 years angel gomes will be better than him .
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Are you expecting Angel Gomes to be a box-to-box? Otherwise, I don't see the connection. Also, Renato Sanches already won Benfica one Portuguese league and Portugal a Euro, no comparison there too.
 
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