He's a few inches shorter then Smalling (Who's about 6'4?), I'd have Jones at around 6'/6'1...he's clearly taller then 5'11.
Raphael Varane
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if he is really 5'11, then i hope he grows at least another inch or two..
but as long as he jumps like the second pic, i don't think being 5'11 is a problem.
Might be slightly over 5'11 but Henderson is 6'0
hope we get this lad.
we can never have too much youth talents.
we can never have too much youth talents.
If Real Madrid are interested we have no chance.
This reminds me of a Father Ted episode. You understand perspective, right?
Might be slightly over 5'11 but Henderson is 6'0
Henderson is 6'2'' according to other non-wiki related sources. Look at the team photograph taken just before the start of the first U21 game. Jones looks quite clearly, to my eyes at least, an inch taller than both Fielding (6'1'') and Welbeck (6'1'') and a couple of inches shorter than Smalling (6'4''). He also looks exactly the same height as Rodwell (6'2'') in another team photo.
Honestly if it turns out he really is 5'11'' or even 6'0'' for that matter, then I'll be perfectly happy to run around Old Trafford naked in broad daylight with a sign on my back reading: ''Glazers OUT - Duncan Drasdo 4 President''
Make that 'Duncan Dildo' and you've got a deal.
Deal. And just to be safe, at the bottom of the sign in small writing I'll add: ''p.s. Only joking. Please don't sue me Ralphie''
i understand perspective and there was no pics with both of these players standing shoulder to shoulder..so i thought you can imagine a bit here..
I tend to take 5'11'' and 6'0'' as the same since the difference is a couple of centimeters and that can be attributed to faulty calibration and such. However, it is not possible to confuse 6'0'' with 6'2'' since the difference then becomes 5.08 cm which is a bigger difference.
Phil Jones IMScouting Profile shows the height to be 6'0'' or 1.80m, i'm assuming that a website such as IMScouting does more than draw conclusions from photos . Thus making it more credible than GCHQ, though not privy to information that we aren't, seems so much more sure than us.
More proof that Phil Jones is 5'11 or somewhere close to that rather than 6'2''
Premier League Official Site Player Profile
Football.co.uk player profile
NBC sports players profile
Phil Jones IMScouting Profile shows the height to be 6'0'' or 1.80m, i'm assuming that a website such as IMScouting does more than draw conclusions from photos . Thus making it more credible than GCHQ, though not privy to information that we aren't, seems so much more sure than us.
More proof that Phil Jones is 5'11 or somewhere close to that rather than 6'2''
Premier League Official Site Player Profile
Football.co.uk player profile
NBC sports players profile
That's stupid.
Why's that?
The height is probably from the time he was 17-ish and breaking in to the blackburn first team
I'm guess he wouldve grown a bit since then.
He certainly looks taller than 5'11.
I'm guess he wouldve grown a bit since then.
He certainly looks taller than 5'11.
Perhaps explanation would benefit the naive to aspire to reach your level of intellectual superiority
Let me clarify myself if the statement you've quoted seemed a bit confusing.
1 inch=2.54 cm(approx)
The difference between 5'11'' and 6'0'' is 2.54 cm. There is a possibility that there could have been a error in reading which has caused the variation. It can be vice versa, he could have been 6ft and his height could have been noted as 5'11''.
But it is not possible to have a 5cm odd error in calibration to confuse a man who's around 180 cm or 183cm (at most in the sites given) to be 188cm. The error percentage would be nearly 5% which is quite high.
So what i'm trying to point out is, he may be 183cm , he may be 180 cm but there's no way he's 188 cm.
There's also the possibility that the height was taken when he was still a youngster and thus he would have grown. That is acknowledged. But i'd rather believe in facts and stats than one man's interpretive abilities based on television/ vision from afar.
He's always saying things like that. I guess thats a form of self depreciation. Or the slightest hint of masochism
That's a plausible explanation. However, i don't think he was near the first team when he was 17 ish. And all the other stats seem updated, it would be weird if the height stat alone isn't updated. But duly noted, there's a possibility that those stats are from 2 years back. But the height on an average from all the sites i've quoted is around the 1.80 mts. Infact the tallest he's been quoted is 1.83m which is 6ft to be exact.
There's not just that.
The following is taken from the opening line of Ian Ladyman's interview/article on Phil Jones from last October:
The very fact he mentions that Jones might still be growing, strongly suggests that he'd had a growth spurt in the not too distant past. The very same growth spurt that makes all the listed stats inaccurate.
Read more: Blackburn Rovers star Phil Jones I'm happy living with mum and dad - EXCLUSIVE | Mail Online
So you bought a short-ish centreback. Half of these post sound like wishful thinking.
Karl-Heinz Riedle was 5'11, Cannavaro 5'10. Height can be compensated for.
Karl-Heinz Riedle was 5'11, Cannavaro 5'10. Height can be compensated for.
He's at least 6'1 if not taller.
Quite clearly looking at him playing he ain't 6ft 2". He's shorter than Henderson. I'd go with 6ft.
This thread is about raphael varane not phil jones. There is already a thread about phil jones guys
Spot on. It's not like we've signed Danny Devito or something.
He's as tall as Rodwell (Who's listed at 6'2 on various sites). He also looks easily as tall as Henderson, and only a few inches shorter then Smalling...He's quite clearly taller then 5'11.
Why is the former possible but the latter impossible? If it's possible that a height measuring device may be broken and giving out incorrect readings, then why is it impossible that it may be broken and giving out incorrect readings?
I don't give a feck about Jones' height, man, I'm just pointing out the illogical nature of what you're saying here.
He's as tall as Rodwell (Who's listed at 6'2 on various sites). He also looks easily as tall as Henderson, and only a few inches shorter then Smalling...He's quite clearly taller then 5'11.
You need to look at the Father Ted clip.He's shorter than Rodwell and Henderson.
Because its not physically possible to have an instrument which gives out perfect values as output. Hence there's an percentage error which is allowed for any given instrument. a 1% or at max 3%. For example, if you buy something that is said to weigh 500 grams and put it in a measuring scale, you'd get 502 grams in one scale and 498 grams perhaps in another. The error of + or - 2 from the original value is negligible and the instrument is passed good enough. But if the error in the instrument is more than 10 grams then the instrument is re calibrated since the error quantity is very high.
That is just an example. Likewise when people use any device, they calibrate it first, to ensure that the error is within acceptable limits. So i'm saying it is possible for an error of + or - 2 cms since that's quite minimal, however in the context of things 6 cm is quite a large error. I hope i've clarified. If the explanation isn't up to scratch, i'd quite happily point you towards website which explain calibration and errors much better than i possibly can. We're drifting away from the topic, so if you still find the statement illogical PM me and i'll be more than glad to clarify.
That's a terrible example.
More poignantly, people actually vary in height up to a full inch from the time they get up in the morning to the time they go to bed. Has to do with the compression of gasses in the spinal discs due to the pressure exerted by being upright over the course of a day.
Always measure yourselves straight after getting out of bed, people.
I was talking about calibration and errors. I couldn't pick my brain to find a more lucid example to talk about. I wasn't talking about height measurement per se.
There are different ways to measure yourself aren't there. From foot to head in one method, another method used in hospitals in the pre determined markings on the walls. I expect neither to be quite error free.
But i am interested in knowing a better example. Always better for information, me.
He's shorter than Rodwell and Henderson.
He's standing right next to Rodwell. There's clearly not that much difference in height, if any at all. Watch some clips of Jones, and compare him to other players. For instance, he looks as tall as Jonny Evans (also listed as 6'2).
That's exactly who we need to compete against Barca's midgets
he is definitely taller than mancienne who is 6ft, so i guess he is a six footer after all...
No he's in front and Rodwell is stooped but its not a 'big' issue (sorry about the pun). How he plays is much more important.
Vidic is not the biggest CB either but does not stop him being a beast.
But i am interested in knowing a better example. Always better for information, me.
At any rate, it should be an example involving different measurements of the same sample. Not different samples weighing out differently on presumably the same weight.
Ah yes!. Mistake on my part. Apologies.
He's as tall as Rodwell (Who's listed at 6'2 on various sites). He also looks easily as tall as Henderson, and only a few inches shorter then Smalling...He's quite clearly taller then 5'11.
Michael Mancienne is 184cm/6' according to Wikipedia. Jones is clearly a couple of inches taller in that picture. He's the same height as Rodwell next to him, and Rodwell's 188cm/6'2". I don't see how there can be any confusion here; he's quite obviously not 5'11", he's three inches taller, he's 6'2". There's even a line in the background going across the tops of all their heads ffs (the picture's parallel with the line before anyone gets smart about it).
Some of you guys seem way too experienced at assessing a dude's size based on photos and video clips.
This is a stupid argument but you cannot know that line is parallel with the camera. Daft comment. What you can see is how someone has arms and shoulders (Jones) are in front of Rodwell I.E Father Ted Farther away.
I really don't know his height is such an issue, he ain't to small but he ain't a giant. That picture proves nothing in reality but from seeing him on the pitch he ain't 6FT 2" nor does he need to be.
I had to go back 54 posts to find a mention of Varane....in a Varane thread.