How long is a piece of string?
Raphael Varane
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no guarantee he will be playing regularly for us or real..
at PSG he would probably play much more and is much better for his development..
From Sky Sports:
United wait on Varane
Man Utd will find out within 48 hours if their bid for Lens starlet Raphael Varane has been successful.
United have been tracking the Lens stopper for a number of months and were the first side to make a move for him this summer.
They lodged a bid of around €10million for the 18-year-old central defender, who admitted he was considering his options carefully.
Varane intimated he would like to continue playing first-team football next season, so United were set to allow him to move back to France on loan.
Real Madrid, who have also lodged a bid, were also happy for him to return as part of the deal but he also looks set to have the option to move within his homeland as Paris Saint Germain have also lodged an offer.
And it is PSG who have emerged as favourites to land his signature, despite the attention of the two European giants.
Decision
Lens president Gervais Martel confirmed that interested clubs will soon find out Varane's future.
"Given the clubs involved, it would be very hard to stop him [from moving," Martel told La Voix du Nord.
"I hope this will be finalised in the next 48 hours - I have just spent four hours on the phone, and there are many things to settle."
Another defender??
United wait on Varane
Man Utd will find out within 48 hours if their bid for Lens starlet Raphael Varane has been successful.
United have been tracking the Lens stopper for a number of months and were the first side to make a move for him this summer.
They lodged a bid of around €10million for the 18-year-old central defender, who admitted he was considering his options carefully.
Varane intimated he would like to continue playing first-team football next season, so United were set to allow him to move back to France on loan.
Real Madrid, who have also lodged a bid, were also happy for him to return as part of the deal but he also looks set to have the option to move within his homeland as Paris Saint Germain have also lodged an offer.
And it is PSG who have emerged as favourites to land his signature, despite the attention of the two European giants.
Decision
Lens president Gervais Martel confirmed that interested clubs will soon find out Varane's future.
"Given the clubs involved, it would be very hard to stop him [from moving," Martel told La Voix du Nord.
"I hope this will be finalised in the next 48 hours - I have just spent four hours on the phone, and there are many things to settle."
Another defender??
How many defenders do we need??
We are preparing for Mourinho to take over. 
We could seriously play with 9 defenders, 1 GK and 1 striker..
we actually beat one of europe's best with 7 defenders last season...
De Gea
Rafael - Varane - Jones - Smalling - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evans - Fabio - Evra
Rooney
Rafael - Varane - Jones - Smalling - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evans - Fabio - Evra
Rooney
De Gea
Rafael - Varane - Jones - Smalling - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evans - Fabio - Evra
Rooney
we will beat barca with this...
Hope we sign him, then we should be fine regarding defenders in the next 8-10 years. I heard he can also play as a midfielder, is that correct?
Left us - VDS / Neville
Rmours will leave - Brown / O'shea / PIG
Players likely to arrive - De Gea
Players signed - Jones
That would leave us
Lindegard Amos De Gea
Rafael Fabio Evra Evans Smalling Rio Vidic Jones
Points to note
Expectations are Rio will be rested often.
Will the twins get over their run of inuries
Will Evra get back to form
Will Evans get back to form
You might think Varane is surplus to requirements but imagine we lose Rio for a few months, Evra and Evans slump continues and the twins continue their bad luck with injuries. That would leave us with Vidic Smalling Jones + 1 short ie Varane.
Rmours will leave - Brown / O'shea / PIG
Players likely to arrive - De Gea
Players signed - Jones
That would leave us
Lindegard Amos De Gea
Rafael Fabio Evra Evans Smalling Rio Vidic Jones
Points to note
Expectations are Rio will be rested often.
Will the twins get over their run of inuries
Will Evra get back to form
Will Evans get back to form
You might think Varane is surplus to requirements but imagine we lose Rio for a few months, Evra and Evans slump continues and the twins continue their bad luck with injuries. That would leave us with Vidic Smalling Jones + 1 short ie Varane.
Commadus, your analysis has one minor flaw: according to the rumours, if we do sign Varane we'll loan him back to France for a season...
I know of that but we can always call him back if needed.
SAF must havea plan for him he's not like Rafa just buying players for the hell of it.
Even if Evra's slump continues I don't see him being dropped for a centre-half, bad form doesn't mean a player ceases to exist. Besides, we won't sell O'Shea and he's well capable of playing as a centre-half, which means we actually have six players who can play there at the moment, I cannot see why we would buy another one unless Fergie's desire is to beat Barcelona by swiping all talented defenders off the market so they're left with Pascal Cygan and Philipe Senderos.
Aren't we already fine for defenders for the next 8-10 years though? It seems a bit much...but then many of us thought the same about signing Vidic at the time.
Surely it depends on whether Brown and O'Shea move on
De Gea
Rafael - Varane - Jones - Smalling - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evans - Fabio - Evra
Rooney
I prefer the one with the wingers
Thing is. It seems we have put in an official bid so SAF must be thinking how he can incoporate Varane.
I thought he could play left back as well as central midfield.
Or Varan is like Smalling - a hot prospect that SAF can mould.
Or we are going 3-5-2 . YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE hAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Well he can play in midfield.
From the sounds of things from Brwned and the french posters, Phil Jones probably has more ability on the ball and experience in midfield. So if one of the two was going to be drafted into that role from time to time surely it'd be Jones
Damn. I hope we put in another bid.
I don't think another temperamental, demanding French kid is what we need to invest in these days. This whole transfer has been pissing me off recently.
Leave him to stew in his own piss and give me a British centre back anyday.
He should be honoured by the interest shown in him and know his place.
Football is turning into a game for metrosexual, moisturising, spoiled brat, Hollywood she-men.
feck the twat, leave him in corrupt France.
Leave him to stew in his own piss and give me a British centre back anyday.
He should be honoured by the interest shown in him and know his place.
Football is turning into a game for metrosexual, moisturising, spoiled brat, Hollywood she-men.
feck the twat, leave him in corrupt France.
Why would we? Its fairly obvious that we have bid above their asking price so it is clear that either the club or the player himself has asked the club to reject their offers.. Its not like he is making a bad decision.. Its a smart career decision to stick on in France for a few years.. Become a regular player and then look elsewhere..
if he's off to madrid, good riddance (make sure to consult sergio canales before you sign) if we were to sign him the sensible move would be to loan him back to france for a year
So two months ago he was worth £3m and now £10m isn't enough?
Of course, in that period he has played exactly zero games.
Of course, in that period he has played exactly zero games.
What a load of rubbish. Are you serious?
From what I read about him he sounds mature for his age. Nothing wrong with his believe in himself. I found it refreshing and I think he's well advised to have concerns about his playing time at a club like ours.
To be so young and have a long term plan is something to admire, I wish more young starlets would do the same.
Totally serious!
I understand we were happy to loan him back for at least one season, so playing time is not an issue. Madrid has offered the same.
Really, why are we bothering? I read with joy Phil Jones bursting with enthusiasm to get training with the lads. They are similar aged and at a similar stage in their careers.
I couldn't give a shite at this juncture where he goes.
I hope you get your wish about "young starlets" but I would suggest you are seriously deluded.
What. A. Load. Of. Bull. Shit.
Temperamental. Demanding. French. That would never work at our club.
Eric wanted to be here. If this lad indicated the same I wouldn't be questioning why we are bothering with him.
Do you know how to read?
He has chosen Madrid apparently, five years contract
Guess we could not promise him regular football.
Did we dither so slightly on this deal? Usually most of our deals are kept confidential but this has been in the public eye for a number of weeks..
He certainly has more chance of playing there then with us.
Rio, Vidic, Smalling, Jones & Evans - I'm not too fussed tbh
Anyone seen Varane play? How much potential has he got?
Anyone seen Varane play? How much potential has he got?
He has to be really special if we want a centre back despite having Rio, Vida, Smalling, Evans & Jones.