Ralf Rangnick | Austria manager
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England could avoid all the big names, but if Austria keep this up, they beat England. That press is kryptonite for our lot.
I wouldnt fancy Germany vs that pressing either. Need a good counterattacking team vs them. France with mbappe is fine, Italy could do ok as well. But the likes of Germany, England, Belgium, Portugal might all be in trouble vs a well done high press.
I think the people showing patience now were willing to show patience then. It's not a binary choice at all.
Didn't Ronaldo say he had to use google to find out who he was? Now of course not all Footballers have encyclopaedic knowledge of every coach in World football but he was in the CL SF in 2011 just like Ronaldo was.
Portugal-Austria would be lively if they were to meet at any stage.
Under their guy didnt mean ETH.
Superb job to top that group with France and Netherlands. Not even a coach according to Ronaldo…
I’d bet utterly clueless. Too dug into their positions to be objective.
I’ve nothing against him. He was just an awful, awful manager here.
He had 1/2 a season! Half!
Felt a lot longer than that.
Austrian players able to follow his system. Goes to show our players are the problem.
My coach. The club and fans treated him like joke. Scandalous.
It would add to the poetry if Austria knocked Portugal out of the brackets.
Rangnick
"This is ten percent luck
Twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure
Fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name"
You told me to never post this shite again, so I'm gonna tell you to never post this shite again
It's cool when I do it
Who did it mean?
Wow it’s almost like 99% of the posters on here don’t have a clue about football! Madness! Any manager needs a squad that fully buys into what the manager wants. He had an impossible job here with the spice boys. Pressing? Who me? Nah…
That attitude is poison for a dressing room. Millionaires coasting and blaming everyone but themselves
That attitude is poison for a dressing room. Millionaires coasting and blaming everyone but themselves
His comments on United needing an open heart surgery gets more poignant by the day.
Yep, however it could be Holland in last 16, Italy in quarters and Belgium in semis so still wouldn't be straightforward, but would avoid the best teams...again!
Everyone at the club knew it, they just couldn't accept it so binned him off.
Fml.
Remember that first game under him against crystal palace when we looked good with the press and then it went down hill with him being completely undermined by a squad full of egos.
I always thought we would likely be in a healthier position had he been made manager full time just alone on the fact that he was willing to turf out half of our players in favour of those that can play in a pressing system and if there was ever a manager post fergie that we would have benefited from giving full power to a manager when it come to recruitment then ralf is as good as it gets with eye for talent.
I always thought we would likely be in a healthier position had he been made manager full time just alone on the fact that he was willing to turf out half of our players in favour of those that can play in a pressing system and if there was ever a manager post fergie that we would have benefited from giving full power to a manager when it come to recruitment then ralf is as good as it gets with eye for talent.
He’s our Jeremy Corbyn
The only manager post SAF who called it as he saw it.
I think the squad sabotaged him, starting with Luke Shaw, who refused to run.
I think we only won 1-0? But, honestly that game we were so good, it was like a breathe of fresh air!
Should have been made DoF.
So we had an elite coach who's team even dominated the favorites France, rejected Bayern and we made him a meme.
Very post-Fergie United isn't it?
He did badly at United. Let's not pretend otherwise. However, we should also not pretend like a good chunk of the squad weren't willing to meet him halfway, nevermind go the full way.
Our players were simply not willing to even try to play the way Rangnick wanted us to. All we're seeing with Austria is what happens when you have a squad that's willing to at least try to do what he wants. Player for player that Austria squad is not at the level of France or the Netherlands. There's nobody in Paris or Amsterdam who would swap Griezmann for Sabitzer or Frimpong for Posch. However, Rangnick has the sum looking more than the parts that make it up. That's the measure of him as a tactician.
England could do much worse than to see if Rangnick would be open to succeeding Southgate.
He is doomed to fail in United. He doesn't have the reputation the manage the ego of the dressing room filled with big name players. He was only an interim manager who had no authority to turn around the players.
He would have run into the same problems everyone else has. When the squad is filled with lazy, selfish primadonnas it takes more than replacing 3-5 of them per year to turn the culture around.
I could see them reaching the final with that side of the draw the way it is now. If they'd a proper goalscorer they'd be a serious contender.
I think his tactics are slightly archaic, I don’t think even if the players bought in he’d be a top top level club manager, but that works in his favour for international football. He plays quite simple high pressing football that is easy enough to teach players in the small amount of time he actually coaches them. Whereas in club football his disciples have evolved his tactics somewhat.
I think if you gave him a slightly better international team with a bit more attacking edge he’d win a tournament.
Ragnick and Sabitzer showing that while they didnt pull up any trees in their time at United, they were certainly not the problem and that given more time their quality probably would have shown through. That said when ETH came in instead nobody would have expected us to end up the 8th best team in the premier league
I think his tactics do work at club level but its difficult to sustain them for two key reasons:
- Tiredness
- Talent required
No players can press like Rangnick wants to over a whole league season, with cup competitions, without running out of steam. You can compensate for that by having a deep squad but that squad must be as fit and tactically astute as it is stacked with technically superb players.
An easy way to try and resist Rangnick's tactics is to sit back in a low block and go long. If you just go over the press its harder for his teams to force turnovers in dangerous areas. Then he's dependent on the technical level of the players because they have to work opportunities, rather than capitalise on defensive errors.
When his squad has a relatively low technical level its hard to deal with these issues. You don't have the resources to create a squad of highly technical athletes who can grind down teams who keep surrendering the ball, as well as stand the rigrous of challenging on multiple fronts.
Man Utd had the resources to address both issues though. I would have liked to see where he went with us. Given how someone like Nagelsmann demonstrated his ability to evolve to address the need for rest-defence to save energy, as well as work openings against defensive sides, I think Rangnick could've created quite an exciting team.
I would like to see what he would do with England.