Queen Elizabeth II | 1926-2022 | Rest in Peace

You’ve been pretty vocal and argumentative with anyone who has been pro Royal Family etc so I couldn’t understand why you’d have amassed so many posts in here and the football cancellation thread during the past few days. Glutton for punishment? That’s the only reason I mentioned your post count. Just find the concept odd.

As I said the football cancellation thread was about the awful organisation of what happened. Nothing to do with the Queen.
 
You haven't said a word to the Royalists who have been much much worse than three of us who don't follow the party line.

Well they are actually in the thread that’s been created in memory of The Queen so not really sure where else they are supposed to go? I think that’s kind of the point.
 
Well they are actually in the thread that’s been created in memory of The Queen so not really sure where else they are supposed to go? I think that’s kind of the point.

But this thread was created over a year ago , long before the Queen died. So because they idolise the Queen it's alright for them to insult people. Come on. (see above)
 
But this thread was created over a year ago , long before the Queen died. So because they idolise the Queen it's alright for them to insult people. Come on.

No but the point being this is the thread for that topic. As I mentioned some posters will be upset and emotional about it so forgive me for finding it a little unsettling that others would choose to come in this particular thread at that specific time to bait those individuals. It’s utterly classless really when you think about it and wouldn’t be tolerated elsewhere.
 
What's the consensus?
You and a few more have spent the whole day posting and looking at your phones for the responses to pick out things to disagree with. If you don't respect the ceremony or aren't interested in it then why fight against it so hard. If we took out all of your posts and the corresponding rebuttals then the thread would be half the size. Discussion is always welcome but if I was you I would say my piece and keave it there especially if I wasn't interested or didn't see the importance of it to the rest.
For example I don't spend all of my time in the religion what's the point thread arguing. I'm not Dawkins I can't change what people believe in so I won't be so offensive as to try.
 
I don’t really care to be honest, what’s their wealth about 2 billion, it’s not really outstanding given a Country’s wealth. It’s probably beneficial for a country to have them.

Around 20 billion in tangible assets. That's mostly land and stuff, for instance the crown jewels are worth billions but aren't included here, so there's loads more.
 
It's bonkers that we have, in the space of 10 days, got the largest numbers of world leaders ever to drop everything and fly over here. I doubt any other country in the world could do that. And I know that every country in the world wishes they could.

It's a ridiculous amount of soft power. There is certainly not a PM, who would be able to command the same response.



e - dying in office from a country with a politically important country with mostly friendly/neutral relations with the world seems to be the trick. some parts of it apply to brezhnev also.
 
Last edited:
But this thread was created over a year ago , long before the Queen died. So because they idolise the Queen it's alright for them to insult people. Come on. (see above)
I don't 'idolise' the Queen. I doubt things will ever be the same again in the monarchy after all these years of people being in the public eye.

No matter how hard you try though pal. We'll all just a grain of fecking sand on a massive time scale. Only thing is, the Queen, was more successful than yourself and I. Only you're bitter as feck

 
No but the point being this is the thread for that topic. As I mentioned some posters will be upset and emotional about it so forgive me for finding it a little unsettling that others would choose to come in this particular thread at that specific time to bait those individuals. It’s utterly classless really when you think about it and wouldn’t be tolerated elsewhere.

Maybe some of those who don't agree with the Monarchy find what the Monarchists are saying upsetting. For me the last few years seem to show the UK in a different light , it's not a nice vibe as ETH would say.
 


Imagine the United matchday thread if this happened;

‘That day, there was a league match in Split between NK Hajduk Splitand FK Crvena Zvezda.[8] When the match was in its 41st minute, three men entered the Poljud Stadium pitch, signaling the referee to stop the match. Ante Skataretiko, the president of Hajduk, took the microphone and announced Tito's death. What followed were sudden scenes of mass crying with some players such as Zlatko Vujović collapsing down to the ground and weeping. Players of both teams and referees aligned to stand in a moment of silence. Once the stadium announcer said "May he rest in peace", the entire stadium of 50,000 football fans spontaneously started to sing "Comrade Tito we swear to you, from your path we will never depart" (sr).[8][14] The match was halted, and replayed later in the month.[citation needed]’
 
Maybe some of those who don't agree with the Monarchy find what the Monarchists are saying upsetting. For me the last few years seem to show the UK in a different light , it's not a nice vibe as ETH would say.

There’s a time and a place though isn’t there? And that’s what being respectful and dignified is
 
I don't 'idolise' the Queen. I doubt things will ever be the same again in the monarchy after all these years of people being in the public eye.

No matter how hard you try though pal. We'll all just a grain of fecking sand on a massive time scale. Only thing is, the Queen, was more successful than the yourself and I. Only you're bitter as feck



What? The Queen was born into what she has and the rest is paid by the British people into her coffers while King Charles will avoid paying inheritance tax whereas you would if you inherited something.
Not bitter at all. What I have achieved and not achieved is entirely down to me and nobody else.
 
It’s what they do isn’t it and what they believe in for hundreds upon hundreds of years, It’s like asking why does Ireland want a Republic.

They bring with them an order or stability a sense of pride and grandeur. Then you have their connections to the world leaders and place on the world stage and their connection to religion and Protestantism, lots of reasons they are important for society.

I'm sorry but you're making no sense to me at all man. I'm absolutely baffled an Irish person sees it that way and I'm not even sure why you think any of that is all that important but probably best to leave it there.
 
What? The Queen was born into what she has and the rest is paid by the British people into her coffers while King Charles will avoid paying inheritance tax whereas you would if you inherited something.
Not bitter at all. What I have achieved and not achieved is entirely down to me and nobody else.
Yawn.

I bet you'd doff your cap if your grandparents left you a few million to your inheritance.
 
Youtube is the first thing that anyone outside UK will go to for watching this, easily.

I wasn't watching on anything but here in Australia we have 5 main channels and the funeral was on 4 of them all day yesterday right through to the end and the other channel had frequent updates. So not many would both using the streaming.
 
There’s a time and a place though isn’t there? And that’s what being respectful and dignified is

People always say that when events suggest that it it a great time to discuss things but people who don't want to discuss it/change want to avoid the discussion as it minimises the chances of change.
 
I don't 'idolise' the Queen. I doubt things will ever be the same again in the monarchy after all these years of people being in the public eye.

No matter how hard you try though pal. We'll all just a grain of fecking sand on a massive time scale. Only thing is, the Queen, was more successful than yourself and I. Only you're bitter as feck

Successful :lol:
 
Successful :lol:

Still coming to terms with how someone born into being Queen (I know the abdication) but she was born into being "Royal" is more successful.

It's like your dad being Elon Musk and somehow you are inherently more successful for inheriting Tesla and running the company after his death.

The Queen (was) around half German technically, so even on the point of being British there's people who are "more British" by heritage.

QE2 did a great job at being a monarch and she lived a long time but it's a very well paid ceremonial position.
 
What's different in this, is that, your North Korea, is glorifying atomic weapons. This however was a funeral.

Should just book a 1 way ticket the feck out of here pal. Go join the 'regime'

You won't be missed.
Kim Jong-un would absolutely feck King Charles up in a fight though.
 
People always say that when events suggest that it it a great time to discuss things but people who don't want to discuss it/change want to avoid the discussion as it minimises the chances of change.

No issues with meaningful discussion but can’t say I’ve seen any of that sadly.
 
What? The Queens coronation was in 1953.

Whats that got to do with the value of the, mostly stolen, jewels in the £6billion hat she's shoved on her head for state occasions?

Wait, she was born better wasn't she? Fine, you feckers starve to death, god (as defined by Henry VIII) said I should wear a £6bn hat.
 
Whats that got to do with the value of the, mostly stolen, jewels in the £6billion hat she's shoved on her head for state occasions?

Wait, she was born better wasn't she? Fine, you feckers starve to death, god (as defined by Henry VIII) said I should wear a £6bn hat.
Servility comes naturally to some. No point arguing. The best you can do is hope the next voting generation sees this madness for what it is, a pathetic jokes on themselves, and does something about getting rid.
 
The House of Windsor made a strong showing yesterday, with William's children there to remind people that this is an institution which will go on for at least another century. I wonder if all the now no-longer-relevant-and-largely-unknown royals from other countries felt a bit wistful.

It's a ruthless family, that's for sure. P45s waved in front of old retainers before the Queen was even buried and Harry assigned the same status as a disgraced fool who consorted with sex offenders. Nowadays it's easy for the Royal Family to self-perpetuate, as there aren't any challenges. Centuries ago, Kings had to get on their horses and go off to battle, but now all they have to do is manage their own family's internal fallings-out.

Having said all that, the funeral and everything that was done yesterday was impressive. I'm glad it didn't rain on them. If you have to have a monarch, the late Queen was probably the best example of how to do the job with dignity and gravitas.
 
The service folk did well. I'm not sure how easy it would be to calculate the costs of the funeral, mostly the people taking part were already being paid and would otherwise have only been lounging around in barracks, on their sport days or practising shooting people whose only defence are sharpened mangos. It definitely cost me more than it did the Queen, without being able to allow shift staff to enjoy a bank holiday, instead we had to pay them double time, poor sods, cheeky feckers still took all the kids to London to watch the goings on and sort of got a day off. I think that definitely gives me the right of some sort of comment.

I've never understood this being proud to be any sort of nationality, it's all an accident of birth isn't it? Like Monarchy.
 
Whats that got to do with the value of the, mostly stolen, jewels in the £6billion hat she's shoved on her head for state occasions?

Wait, she was born better wasn't she? Fine, you feckers starve to death, god (as defined by Henry VIII) said I should wear a £6bn hat.
Well you can just feck off to North Korea.
 
That you're bitter and pathetic. Go to sleep you've infested this thread all day. Does it give you a warm fuzzy feeling in your tummy that you're fighting the good fight. You have posted more than any one person in this thread. You don't respect it fine but don't try soo hard to make the majority come over to your side.

To his credit he has avoided getting personal. Unlike you, who can't handle your antiquated views being challenged without resorting to petty insults.
 
Or make fun of his tagline, when you yourself have a more apt one.
Well thought out response again I see.

I've said my view in this thread I don't intend to spend any longer on it. Not like you and your ilk on some weird self affirming crusade, as described in my previous posts that you didn't read.
 
If people want to celebrate the Queen then that is their right. You obviously don’t and that is your right. Personally I wouldn’t spend most of the day on a forum thread that I had no interest in.

I just thought it was done magnificently and no other country could pull something off like today’s funeral even though I am neutral on the monarchy.

Yes. Me too.
 
No issues with meaningful discussion but can’t say I’ve seen any of that sadly.

I tend to agree with this. While most of the banter following QE2’s death have admittedly been good-natured and funny, I think you’re misguided if you think wishing her a painful death and all the ‘Lizzie in a box’ stuff will change anyone’s mind about the British monarchy.