We went into London yesterday to take photos and ended up at Hyde Park which was an odd affair. Tv screens to show the funeral while families were cracking open the Strongbow and Jack Daniels Cola cans. There was a woman sitting near us repeatedly shouting, at a funeral, for people to sit down so she could watch, a funeral, oblivious to how her shouting could be a bit disrespectful. That's without mentioning the lasses that were posing in front of the tv screens, of a funeral, like it was their one chance to be an instagram influencer. Just a weird day.
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I honestly find so many aspects of this thread completely baffling.
I actually didn't mind the queen herself, though I'd abolish the monarchy in a second. I don't see how she's so 'successful' though or how she changed the world or made us so proud to be British or any of this carry on.
Its also incredibly strange for me to see the same few posters so interested in something they hate. I don't like the monarchy, don't know most of their names. I didn't watch the funeral and I've barely followed the madness of the past 10 days. It wasn't some impossible act, nor something that required all that much effort. Would have been very easy for some on here to do the same, rather than constantly bemoan how the coverage is everywhere.
Will be glad to see the back end of it all and hopefully Charles is the beginning of the end.
I actually didn't mind the queen herself, though I'd abolish the monarchy in a second. I don't see how she's so 'successful' though or how she changed the world or made us so proud to be British or any of this carry on.
Its also incredibly strange for me to see the same few posters so interested in something they hate. I don't like the monarchy, don't know most of their names. I didn't watch the funeral and I've barely followed the madness of the past 10 days. It wasn't some impossible act, nor something that required all that much effort. Would have been very easy for some on here to do the same, rather than constantly bemoan how the coverage is everywhere.
Will be glad to see the back end of it all and hopefully Charles is the beginning of the end.
Would anyone be surprised if it transpired that she wasn't dead but just fancied retiring to the Ribble valley and eating cheese and onion pies every day with no cnut bothering her in her final years?
She looked pretty sprightly when in public in recent appearances (pre-boxing up) to me, and having to go from talking to Churchill once a week down to Boris and then Liz Truss once a week would send me over the edge.
She looked pretty sprightly when in public in recent appearances (pre-boxing up) to me, and having to go from talking to Churchill once a week down to Boris and then Liz Truss once a week would send me over the edge.
Successful
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that’s the daftest comment In this whole thread.
More than 250,000 queued and filed past the Queen coffin.
Sums how so many people felt quite nicely.
https://news.sky.com/story/more-tha...all-in-london-says-culture-secretary-12701726
Sums how so many people felt quite nicely.
https://news.sky.com/story/more-tha...all-in-london-says-culture-secretary-12701726
We've been planning her funeral for 50 years or something (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_London_Bridge), if we couldn't manage to make it mildly impressive then that would be a damning indictment.
The fact that we put more effort into her funeral than we did into stopping the spread of COVID (particularly in the early days) says a lot about our priorities as a nation.
Ribble Valley? I got married somewhere in the Ribble Valley but even I have to admit I would be bloody surprised if she chose there to eat her pies.
When is Charles’s coronation?
..but Buster, only 40,000 watched it on a YouTube channel.
Well she "died" in bloody Balmoral so clearly the weather didn't bother her.
Most people probably watched it on the normal TV channels. It was on almost all of them.
There are plenty of other sites than YouTube.
You could say exactly the same about football, a multi-billion pound industry, look at the effort that goes into that, and for no other reason than watching a few blokes kick a ball about.
But you like football, so that's different isn't it?
I gave you 3 or 4 good reasons and it makes no sense at all to you?
Lots of people have been whinging that the Windsor hymns were taken too fast. I think that’s bollocks; it isn’t a vast resonant building and the congregation weren’t being left behind. Triple time tunes like Westminster Abbey can get really dull if taken mega slowly.
You’ve been having a meltdown against anyone who doesn’t share your view of the monarchy. You can’t sit there complaining about people trying to convince people and self affirmation when you’re wholly unable to accept others think differently and calling those who disagree with you pathetic. Which is fine, there’s plenty of that going around. Just don’t be a hypocrite about it.
I don't doubt you but even if the staff are discreet I just have this feeling that customers at the Inn at Whitewell aren't going to keep their gobs shut after seeing her madge fill hers with cheese and onion pie.
Erm, do we? Government involvement in football is quite limited isn't it? And the police get paid for it by the PL clubs plus of course there should be significant tax revenues from it.
I would certainly hope it doesn't require the military to be involved in football matches. If a business makes money doing something objectively slightly pointless it's not quite the same as the government wasting our time and money on it to help perpetuate an unfair status quo.
I don't really know any Irish people in my neck of the woods who were brought up to "hate" the Royal Family as they currently are. Mostly look at them as a silly, expensive tradition for the UK. It's quite interesting looking on, if anything. And, in fairness, a lot of Irish people actually have quite the interest in them. There are soooo many more things to hate Britain for over the last 800 years as an Irish person, for feck sake. Unless you mean what the monarchy represented historically.
This is ridiculous though, how can you even compare the two.
That tells you more about Johnson's Tory government than anything else.
They were quite literally a target ffs! I heard it all the time growing up, F the Queen and so on..
See if you come into the thread with a closed mind you will never see, people have different beliefs and just because an Irish opinion for a Republic doesn’t make it stronger than a Brits for a Monarchy.
Is it just me or does that figure seem rather low given that there two non-stop streams of people passing by for 4 1/2 days?
It's about 1.5 seconds per person
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I heard the number was more than 400,000 but hardly worth having an argument over.
...who the country voted for. And of course the monarchy that the public overwhelmingly support.
No, certainly didn't intend to argue it's just intriguing.
No, me neither but the mood in here looks like it could turn ugly at a moments notice if given half a chance.
Uhhh, it does, being proud to be an independent country that makes your own decisions after being oppressed for 800 years is not the same as enjoying a monarchy with a questionable history with absolutely no tangible benefits other than to make some people feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Maybe it was different if you grew up in the north but down south nobody really cared about the royal family at all, it was more of an overall anti British sentiment, obviously.
Think some here might find this essay interesting - "The Context, Performance and Meaning of Ritual: The British Monarchy and the 'Invention of Tradition', c. 1820-1977"
The public voted for him as a clown that amused them I don't think the analogy works but will bow out rather than derail the thread. Just remembering that whole thing makes me angry.
I can understand were you are coming from and I too believe in a Republic but as you get older you learn to accept other peoples beliefs and if they want to have a Monarchy I can see benefits from it. I think you can’t live in the past forever with or you will never be content, I could say the famine and so on is a sore spot but I don’t live there in my head.
I never said they couldn't, of course they can. I personally find it amusing, I never think "oh I wish they'd get rid of the monarchy!", because I don't care enough. it's the idea that it's somehow comparable to having a Republic given all the Irish people have gone through that's a baffling concept to me.
No confirmed date, but it is expected to be spring or summer next year. Charles is reportedly keen for the monarchy to become smaller (and, consequently, a lot less expensive), so the coronation is expected to be shorter and less lavish than the one his mother had.
You have literally just plucked this opinion about a monarchy protecting the world from facism from a post a few pages ago and made it your mission statement
But you’re only seeing it from your point of view, if it’s as important to them as it is to us surely you can see that.
Pretty much this. You don’t have to agree with them but you should be able to tolerate and accept the beliefs of others. The funeral was quite a religious affair so there’s that too.
You have to wonder if some of what’s been posted here in recent days would be considered acceptable if it was about another country or religion. I’d guess not.
But it's still the people of the country spending money on football instead of worthy things, whether it's through government or not, which you have never complained about, so my point stands.
Bringing up covid is just picking and choosing your whataboutisms to fit in with your personal likes and dislikes.
But that's not what I said. I said you can't compare the two.
My family are more important to me than the Republic but that doesn't mean the two are in any way comparable.
I don't know if that's aimed at me but if so, you clearly missed the context of the discussion because I haven't stated I have any issues with people liking the modern monarchy.
No just a general comment really. I know you find it amusing and have been more piss taking than anything more malicious.
Some of what’s been posted from Twitter and the like has been amusing.
People are convinced King Charles’s bodyguards are using fake hands
https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/18/peop...Bh-ZMZ8BysxqNyDT2AuXd6Pv6oR3-6D3hldY-ZMW_stng
https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/18/peop...Bh-ZMZ8BysxqNyDT2AuXd6Pv6oR3-6D3hldY-ZMW_stng