Yeah I loved Blur. Criminal it never got a sequel. Another thing to blame Activision for.
Gaming PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X
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Yeah I loved Blur. Criminal it never got a sequel. Another thing to blame Activision for.
The only game there that looks interesting to me is God of War and that's not enough for me to buy a console. I've got a Xbox for gamepass.
I think Phil broke a few hearts, @VeevaVee sounds heartbroken
Terrific game.
This thread is a parody at this moment, because there’s no real comparison between the two consoles. Playstation has delivered year after year of exclusives for absolute ages now whereas Xbox has had a barren field of nothingness apart from their usual Fortza and Gears once in awhile.
Also the most next gen thing about this console generation is the dual sense controller and I’m surprised that Microsoft hasn’t come up with an equivalent. The idea of playing the hundreds of hours of Cyberpunk without adaptive triggers or Ratchet without the dual sense feedback, now seems pointless to me.
Obviously no one is going to buy a PS5 just for Astro's Playroom or pretty much any single game, it's the total package of exclusives and third party games that counts and games like Astro simply contribute to that. Same with Ratchet & Clank and Sackboy. The whole kids games argument is something I don't get. Games that are accessible to a younger audience aren't necessarily kids games, I thought we had moved beyond that. People have used that to dismiss Nintendo games in the past, same thing.
All the other stuff, you're giving reasons why the games aren't for you and fair enough, if you don't like em you don't like em. I don't like all of them either, but I know some of the games I didn't like are critically acclaimed pretty much universally and loads of people love them. Doesn't make them any better to me personally, but I'm not going to call them shit. They're just not for me.
As an aside, it's a little funny you keep pointing to the Horizon Forbidden West thread as if I'm not aware of the criticism. I've absolutely slaughtered the game in there.
I genuinely didn't enjoy it, but it seems to have been received well by critics and gamers alike, so who am I to claim they are wrong? It's not for me, but it still contributes to a strong line-up for most people.Lastly, the thing about gaming getting stale, I agree with you that Sony's first party titles aren't the answer to that. They are quality, but they are rarely surprising or refreshing. If I played only those games, I'd probably get bored pretty quickly. I just see them as a complement to the whole spectrum of other games out there, which works just fine.
Yeah nintendo and kids games. I guess they've earned the benefit of the doubt with me. Probably helped by me being a kid when most of their series were made. I relent on the whole Sackboy thing, i threw it on to download last night.Obviously no one is going to buy a PS5 just for Astro's Playroom or pretty much any single game, it's the total package of exclusives and third party games that counts and games like Astro simply contribute to that. Same with Ratchet & Clank and Sackboy. The whole kids games argument is something I don't get. Games that are accessible to a younger audience aren't necessarily kids games, I thought we had moved beyond that. People have used that to dismiss Nintendo games in the past, same thing.
All the other stuff, you're giving reasons why the games aren't for you and fair enough, if you don't like em you don't like em. I don't like all of them either, but I know some of the games I didn't like are critically acclaimed pretty much universally and loads of people love them. Doesn't make them any better to me personally, but I'm not going to call them shit. They're just not for me.
As an aside, it's a little funny you keep pointing to the Horizon Forbidden West thread as if I'm not aware of the criticism. I've absolutely slaughtered the game in there.
Lastly, the thing about gaming getting stale, I agree with you that Sony's first party titles aren't the answer to that. They are quality, but they are rarely surprising or refreshing. If I played only those games, I'd probably get bored pretty quickly. I just see them as a complement to the whole spectrum of other games out there, which works just fine.
The total package thing is a fair way to look at it, I'm more inclined towards the system seller but each to their own. I'm reluctant to do the same for MS because i dont want to defend crap like Halo 15 or whatever its on now. Or i guess decent is more accurate than crap.
I think with Horizon its pretty new and its own thread is probably fairly active. Talking in detail about returnal in here makes sense to me but having a long conversation about horizon makes less sense. And criticising it is kind of hard when its bad for kind of boring and tedious reasons so pointing to posts by other people who've covered it pretty well just saves me doing it (and probably doing a bad job of it). I think anyone considering buying a PS5 for Horizon 2 should reconsider anyway. Its a terrible sequel.
I dont pay that much attention to reviews these days to be honest. Redfall or games as poor I'd notice but general 8/10 reviews dont make much impact. The critical acclaim feels misplaced to me, and I dont see hugely compelling arguments against it. Lots of people getting upset about me maliciously leaving out Gran Turismo but the only poster who seems to care about racing doesn't seem to think its as good as iracing or good at all. I guess more games is never a bad thing but it just seems like a well supported genre with better games elsewhere. Demon's Souls a 15 year old remaster - I mean it was a pretty good launch title, it was good for showing off graphics and the worst FROM games are still better than the best dark souls clones but even as a fanboy of the developer i found that hard to really enjoy.
This conversation started in another thread and i think i made a post about their games being good fillers between better titles. A good compliment to the spectrum of games is something I'd agree with.
Horizon 2 isn't a terrible sequel. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it's bad.
Some terrible posts in here though.
Some terrible posts in here though.
Just because you like it doesn't mean its good works by the same token. I understand the difference between subjective and objective. Writing in my opinion after every statement is redundant (or it should be)
You said it's terrible? Explain to me how it is terrible but any stretch of the imagination. It's a stupid statement from you. It's not perfect, and has downfalls, but it isn't terrible.
Redfall is terrible.
It's not terrible but it isnt as good as Halo Infinite's single player which is at least fun to play - even if that has its own flaws.
I'd also say Psychonauts is better than Ratchet and Clank even if R&C is clearly more technically polished and prettier.
I'd also say Psychonauts is better than Ratchet and Clank even if R&C is clearly more technically polished and prettier.
The more apt comparison would be with Sackboy, and Sackboy is better.
Also Psychonauts isn't exclusive to Xbox.
I know it isn't but it is technically MS first party now. People can't blame MS fir Redfall and give no props for games like Psychonauts and HiFi Rush
Psychonauts is better than sackboy too for me. I'm a bit surprised at the love it gets here. I loved Mario 3d world but couldn't get far into Sackboy and that was co op where I'm much more forgiving.
Psychonauts is better than sackboy too for me. I'm a bit surprised at the love it gets here. I loved Mario 3d world but couldn't get far into Sackboy and that was co op where I'm much more forgiving.
I have been one of the biggest Xbox defenders on here and just decided to sell my Series X today because I see absolutely no point keeping it. A year ago the biggest draw was Game Pass and upcoming exclusives, now that PS Plus has better roster of games (also cheaper) as Microsoft have basically decided to ditch new additions to GP and all their exclusives have either turned out terrible or been delayed forever, I see zero point keeping it. I might buy Series S sometime in the future if they get some games out but as I have been trying to minimize the amount of stuff at my home and in my life, getting rid of X seems like the natural choice, as much as I have used it over the last year I will be able to replace 90% of its use with PS5.
As good as they started this generation, it’s been such a crap show for the last year.
As good as they started this generation, it’s been such a crap show for the last year.
Christ
Nothing against anything Sarni says but I swear only a month ago XSX and gamepass was the best thing to happen to gaming and he hadn't touched his PS5 in 2 years.
Nothing against anything Sarni says but I swear only a month ago XSX and gamepass was the best thing to happen to gaming and he hadn't touched his PS5 in 2 years.
@Sarni is one of the most level headed on here about gaming. Not surprised locky is trying to twist the narrative and didn't even bother to tag him as per usual.
It’s definitely gone down the shitter in the last few months though. Never really use my X anymore whereas before that it felt like there was always something decent on Gamepass that made it worth picking up for the first 12-18 months I had it. It’s the console I’d be most ok with selling right now, if I wanted to.Christ
Nothing against anything Sarni says but I swear only a month ago XSX and gamepass was the best thing to happen to gaming and he hadn't touched his PS5 in 2 years.
MS have made a total balls of their exclusives and seem to be releasing fewer decent 3rd party offerings on it too which means there’s sweet feck all to play.
Christ
Nothing against anything Sarni says but I swear only a month ago XSX and gamepass was the best thing to happen to gaming and he hadn't touched his PS5 in 2 years.
Yeah Xbox was by far my most used console for the first two years of this generation. PS5 was at my neighbors house for 4 months last year and I didn’t miss it, I didn’t request it back even though they were supposed to borrow it for just a week.
However the landscape has changed considerably in the last few months. The biggest advantage Xbox had was Game Pass but what has occurred over the last 4 months is Microsoft have basically ceased to supply it with quality new content, instead of solid bi-weekly updates they have moved towards adding less games at irregular intervals which I don’t like at all. They seem to be removing more games than they are adding, and not just irrelevant games. They have almost nothing substantial announced for the next few months. In the meantime Sony have been consistently filling their subscription service library with quality, diverse content and at this point there is at least the same amount of good third party games in PS+ so that advantage is gone (arguably due to quality of Sony’s first party games and the backlog I have it’s more enticing to use PS+).
MS still have the advantage of adding first party games at launch but there are almost none, and even then having to either wait 12-18 months for Sony’s first party games to be added or paying for those 2-3 games a year I want is not much of a hassle.
I can basically use PS5 for 95% of what made Xbox good for me, while also having more exclusive content (even if I still don’t find it that impressive, it’s simply better). And I also still trust Sony way more when it comes to adding quality first party games. To keep an Xbox for an occasional session of Forza and the odd chance of Starfield being good doesn’t strike me as a good idea, if what I want is to own less stuff I don’t really need.
MS had a good start to this generation but completely ruined it since.
Yeah pretty much exactly what I just said. They were adding 8-10 third party games to their service a month while Sony had no real response to that. Sony have addressed that by first adding PS+ Extra and then improving its library month over month while MS have gone the opposite direction, shrinking its library and stopping regular updates. When you don’t have any first party games to show, it really makes your system irrelevant.
Yeah it's fair enough. It was never anywhere near a must own and I agree even if Starfield is a banger it still wouldnt be. I was just surprised because this wasn't a gradual 4 month realisation judging by your posts here @Sarni
I have all the consoles and for the past few months have only really played Overwatch 2 and pro clubs on fifa. Could easily have either just 1 of ps or xbox and sell the switch wouldn't notice a different but instead I whorde them and buy all the games which I know I won't play.
I have all the consoles and for the past few months have only really played Overwatch 2 and pro clubs on fifa. Could easily have either just 1 of ps or xbox and sell the switch wouldn't notice a different but instead I whorde them and buy all the games which I know I won't play.
Imagine talking about selling the Switch when the greatest game ever made has just dropped.
Classic plastic gamer.
(bonus points for "whorde")
Classic plastic gamer.
(bonus points for "whorde"
)Imagine talking about selling the Switch when the greatest game ever made has just dropped.
Classic plastic gamer.
(bonus points for "whorde"
Err well I had to get an xbox reference in there somewhere obviously.
I'm sure it's an incredible game but I just struggle to get through a single player game anymore and even with multiplayer need to be on a mic with mates. Same with books and TV tbf. Would need a boat load of drugs or maybe just some adhd pills.
I get that mate.
Imagine talking about selling the Switch when the greatest game ever made has just dropped.
Classic plastic gamer.
(bonus points for "whorde"
I would love to go Switch only. The only thing keeping me from that is that there’s no playable version of NBA 2K on it.
Speaking of that, @Redlambs how likely is it for Nintendo to release a decently powered Switch successor within the next 12-18 months? I’m talking something at the level of Series S or even PS4 Pro that would run multiplatform games at 1080/60 or 4K/30?
I understand Nintendo would want their next console priced below XSX/PS5, and make a profit on units, so that could be an issue.
Kind of feels like that ship sailed for nintendo a while ago. Going back into that end of the market doesn't seem likely. Not that im an expert.
I think they should just release an official emulator for pc really. Feel like they'd make a killing if they made that vaguely user friendly and sold games through their e-shop. Not sure high powered pc is a meaningful threat to them. Seems unlikely for other reasons though.
They are making a killing on Switch and it’s still selling very well after 6 years. It outsold PS4 and smashed X One. You’d think that replacing it with a more powerful version of it that could support third party games a little better (as many of them are being released on NS anyway) would easily get them through the next years. They do extremely well on first party software side already.
They could, but its been an option for a long time and they dont seem too pushed. Getting the developers to release games is a battle they've lost a couple of times previously too. The only reason i think they'd consider making some pc launcher is that people are already doing it and they're relying on goodwill to get money out of them (which a lot of people seem to have, to be fair)
They haven’t even got into mobile games market properly, can’t see them tapping into PC market that is much smaller and less lucrative.
Looking into mobile games market is interesting though. Its not something i would have expected. That seems a more obvious source of threat to their consoles. Who knows anyway, they've never been predictable.
Imagine talking about selling the Switch when the greatest game ever made has just dropped.
Classic plastic gamer.
(bonus points for "whorde"
Just checked and guessed you on about the Zelda game? Checked it out on YouTube, and the first video, I skipped the talking and loading up. First thing I see is the dude getting excited about a weapon clipping into the ground because it's too big, basically praising the developers for being lazy. Weird af.
Killzone was shite tbh.
I've not been gaming in recent years. My series S, 4 pro and PC have all been collecting dust.
My take on the whole exclusives thing is that while there's no denying Sony's offerings are of significantly higher quality, they just don't feel like games. Give me a game with killer gameplay where I have authority to play however I want.
There's just so much set pieces in Sony exclusives that I've never wanted to continue playing unless I'm interested in the story.
My take on the whole exclusives thing is that while there's no denying Sony's offerings are of significantly higher quality, they just don't feel like games. Give me a game with killer gameplay where I have authority to play however I want.
There's just so much set pieces in Sony exclusives that I've never wanted to continue playing unless I'm interested in the story.
This is basically all modern AAA games, regardless of whether it’s Sony, Microsoft, EA or Ubisoft. Creativity, freedom and killer gameplay seems to be reserves for indie games (+ some of the Nintendo stuff). There have been so many of them recently though that it’s hard to complain.
Mobile games is a huge market, many times over PC & video games, however it seems to be mainly reserved for simple games to play on the go. Switch occupies the sweet space for enthusiasts of something more than your casual game who at the same time don’t have the time or energy to engage in modern AAA games.
The issue is whenever Nintendo have tried to make the next step following their success they went wrong direction. DS was huge success, followed by 3DS which there was no real need or demand for, massively successful Wii followed by hugely underwhelming Wii U that didn’t do anything particularly well. Switch has arguably been their biggest success ever so the question is can they build on that and not make the same mistakes again.
Okay, can you suggest some newer games like these?
I think a switch+ that can run call of duty is pretty much what the wii u was. Being able to run a passable version of call of duty doesn't mean activision are willing to develop a passable version of call of duty. Nintendo consoles are kind of notorious for having poor 3rd party sales so getting developers to back it would be an uphill struggle. Gamecube was another example of them trying to attract 3rd party developers and it being ignored and unsupported.
It just doesn't make any sense. I dont think people buying nintendo consoles care in the slightest about missing out on the newest fifa or assassins creed and i think the kind of market who would buy them games would dismiss stuff like splatoon or arms immediately.
Of last year’s releases I’d say Tunic stands out the most. Chained Echoes and Immortality were also fantastic (though I only got a few hours into Chained Echoes, intending to buy it for Switch and finish there instead of Xbox) and I did enjoy Signalis for a while but it got a little tedious in the end - still very much worth a shot. Immortality has very little ordinary gameplay though. I would say check Tunic first (or even Death’s Door).
I'm not quite at the point of giving up and selling, but I'm closer than I'd like to be. Definitely wish I'd just got bought a Switch instead of the XSX as an alternative to my PS5. I could see positives to a lot of what MS seemed to be doing over the first couple years of this gen, but a lot of that seems to be drying up or not panning out. There's the future promise of first party titles from the studios they've bought, but if we don't see some exciting stuff at the June showcase I will be very worried.