Gaming PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X

Which do you think will release first?


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Sony should do more with the Astrobot series. The VR game was excellent and by all accounts the haptic game is also good.

Also, what happened with Bluepoint? They used to do some cracking remakes/masters
The team behind Astro are probably working on something for PSVR 2. Well, we don't really know, but that would make sense. Bluepoint have stated they're working on an original IP, which will be interesting, as I don't believe they've ever done that before. They've definitely earned that opportunity.
 
Why be so dismissive of Astro's Playroom? It's a short game, sure, but it's absolutely fantastic. They all count.

In any case, if you're just going to continue repeating that Sony's first party titles are pretty crap while MS's are good, there's no point going on. It's your opinion, just be content with that and stop trying to act like it's somehow a valid argument.
Its a tech demo! Its about half an hour long.
I haven't just repeated they're pretty crap. Horizon 2 is pretty crap and you can read the thread on here to see why, lots of good posts. Overcomplicated @Massive Spanner thinks and that covers it pretty well. I could list out all the reasons i thought it was bad but it'll be about 5 pages long and most will be really, really minor. They just add up to a shit experience.
Returnal is good but the difficulty curve is dumb and bad and will put off most people. I'd struggle to think of someone i could recommend it to because they just dont have the patience for these games.
Gran Turismo 7 - i have no thoughts on, not a sim racing fan. Friend who bought a racing wheel and plays them in vr says it wasn't very good so i just forgot it.
Miles Morales - i didn't like. There was the makings of a very good - great game in there but there was a truckload of annoyances for me personally. Unskippable cutscnes was the one i remember most. Put unskippable cutscenes in your game and im going to drop a point off the score. Unskippable cutscenes with standard low quality video game writing and i'll drop 2. Feel like that lesson should have been learned about a decade ago
I bounced off Demons Souls when i played it on PS3. Standard stuff for most I'm sure, should have given it more of a go at the time. Playing it now after Elden Ring, Dark Souls 3 and Sekiro and it just feels bad to me. I couldn't get into it. I replayed Dark Souls about 2 years ago and found that had reached a point where it was showing its age and I didn't think i could play it again, think that was more modern and better than Demons Souls.
 
Its a tech demo! Its about half an hour long.
I haven't just repeated they're pretty crap. Horizon 2 is pretty crap and you can read the thread on here to see why, lots of good posts. Overcomplicated @Massive Spanner thinks and that covers it pretty well. I could list out all the reasons i thought it was bad but it'll be about 5 pages long and most will be really, really minor. They just add up to a shit experience.
Returnal is good but the difficulty curve is dumb and bad and will put off most people. I'd struggle to think of someone i could recommend it to because they just dont have the patience for these games.
Gran Turismo 7 - i have no thoughts on, not a sim racing fan. Friend who bought a racing wheel and plays them in vr says it wasn't very good so i just forgot it.
Miles Morales - i didn't like. There was the makings of a very good - great game in there but there was a truckload of annoyances for me personally. Unskippable cutscnes was the one i remember most. Put unskippable cutscenes in your game and im going to drop a point off the score. Unskippable cutscenes with standard low quality video game writing and i'll drop 2. Feel like that lesson should have been learned about a decade ago
I bounced off Demons Souls when i played it on PS3. Standard stuff for most I'm sure, should have given it more of a go at the time. Playing it now after Elden Ring, Dark Souls 3 and Sekiro and it just feels bad to me. I couldn't get into it. I replayed Dark Souls about 2 years ago and found that had reached a point where it was showing its age and I didn't think i could play it again, think that was more modern and better than Demons Souls.

Imagine paying £450 to play a half hour long game :lol:
 
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It's not about half an hour long ffs, this is getting stupid now. :lol: Come back when you want to have an honest conversation.
 
I missed loads, pentiment and so on. I'm not including a kids game because im not 7 - xbox has a few that no one on this site will play either. Spiderman isn't a ps5 exclusive its a short expansion to a ps4 game. Demons Souls is 15 years old and feels it if you touch any of FROM's modern games.
I included Forza Horizon because it fun. Unlike racing simulators like Gran Turismo which i find boring, I'm told theres much better elsewhere regardless.

You're chatting absolute shit.
 
It's not about half an hour long ffs, this is getting stupid now. :lol: Come back when you want to have an honest conversation.
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Yeah, debating with you has been interesting and informative. I'll get right on that.
 
Come back when you want to have an honest conversation.
Ok, I'll try again. How about a fresh start. I exaggerate and say hyperbolic things, I shouldn't and i'll try and avoid it for the sake of conversation, at least in this case.
I replied to a post saying that someone playing on xbox finding gaming stale, wouldn't if they had access to playstation exclusives. Roughly. I dont think thats true and i think the PS5 cant be sold on the strength of its exclusives to date - thats my argument.
"Why be so dismissive of Astro's Playroom? It's a short game, sure, but it's absolutely fantastic. They all count."
In terms of games that you'd buy a PS5 for I dont think Astro's Playroom does personally. Because its so short. I played it once and never again. It was interesting, the controller is genuinely cool but yeah, the game itself isn't something i'd tell someone they should buy a playstation for. I didn't even consider it. I mean its probably worth mentioning for someone finding gaming stale, thats fair. I'd be more inclined to judge it seperately in terms of the controller and the wider implementation of that - another conversation.
Miles Morales might count. Its short again. Its an expansion really. I dont know what the modern term for that is but i wouldn't buy a console for it.
I listed the 3 games I think someone would buy a playstation for, I dont think that was hyperbolic, dismissive list. It wasn't meant to be exhaustive and definitive. I was pretty annoyed at Returnal when playing but a year on I'd look back on it much more favourably. If you were really into bullet hell shooters or roguelites its a game worth bearing in mind, its a system seller.
Horizon 2 could have been a system seller. The first was good. Great premise, fun gameplay. Throw in a few basic upgrades like gliding (i really liked gliding) and more of the same and its a safe bet. Or thats what i would have expected but was disappointed. The thread for it is probably pretty active at the moment.
God of War 2 is a system seller. That im wary of. Its gotten a lot of praise in here but that just seems par for the course. I dont really want to spoil it for myself by having a deep conversation about it. I have nothing useful to add to a conversation on it anyway.
Your welcome to suggest others that might be attractive to buy.
I have dismissed Ratchet and Clank and Sackboy. Because i've pretty much dismissed them in real life, I've had free access to both for ages and haven't played either. Maybe an hour of each when minding nephew but probably much older games. They all just play minecraft these days which is on everything. I dont have an opinion on gaming for kids and I dont know if Ratchet and Clank is really worth playing as an adult.
Theres a lot of good racing sims on every console. 3rd parties seem to be the pick of the bunch? Do you need more than one racing sim? I'm more into arcade racers and am bitter about wipeout. Mario kart pisses all over everything else from a great height and MS have forza, which was quite fun. Crash Team racing is meant to be ok?
I dont think its a strong line up. I think the other console you cant mention would put it to shame.
Hyperbolic bait time - Nintendo's exclusives would put sony and MS put together to shame.
 
I dont know if Ratchet and Clank is really worth playing as an adult.

Christ almighty, if I had a pound for every time someone has said that on here about a game, especially Nintendo ones, I'd have enough money to pay Alock to shill for me for a day (I assume he's expensive!).
 
Got my PS5 a few months back and it is already going weeks at a time without use while I drift back to PC gaming. It is a fine machine but there are few must own games and the price point is terrible. Why spend £70 on a new game that really isn't a massive improvement on the previous generation offerings?
 
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I have dismissed Ratchet and Clank and Sackboy. Because i've pretty much dismissed them in real life, I've had free access to both for ages and haven't played either. Maybe an hour of each when minding nephew but probably much older games. They all just play minecraft these days which is on everything. I dont have an opinion on gaming for kids and I dont know if Ratchet and Clank is really worth playing as an adult.
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Ignoring your white text, but this is such a narrow minded way to think. Sackboy is an amazing game, and R&C while not a masterpiece was the first truly next gen title. The argument is that MS simply don't have anything comparable, so your choice to dismiss them out of hand undermined any point you were trying to make.

Broaden your horizons a bit.
 
Ignoring your white text, but this is such a narrow minded way to think. Sackboy is an amazing game, and R&C while not a masterpiece was the first truly next gen title. The argument is that MS simply don't have anything comparable, so your choice to dismiss them out of hand undermined any point you were trying to make.

Broaden your horizons a bit.
Meh, I think 3d platformers are a bit like racing sims and call of duty where any interest i had died about 20 years ago. I'll try Sackboy i guess.
 
Meh, I think 3d platformers are a bit like racing sims and call of duty where any interest i had died about 20 years ago. I'll try Sackboy i guess.

You used Flight Sim as evidence of MS having better exclusives, but a driving sim is a step too far.

You absolutely should try Sackboy, preferably in coop.
 
You used Flight Sim as evidence of MS having better exclusives, but a driving sim is a step too far.

You absolutely should try Sackboy, preferably in coop.
No thats more based on my friends opinion really. He doesn't rate it. I cant remember what hes been playing off hand. F1 game for a good bit and i think iracing was another.
I think flight sim is unique, you wont really get a comparable experience elsewhere.
 
No thats more based on my friends opinion really. He doesn't rate it. I cant remember what hes been playing off hand. F1 game for a good bit and i think iracing was another.
I think flight sim is unique, you wont really get a comparable experience elsewhere.

Cannot you not see the hypocrisy in your posts? You've dismissed games that MS have nothing comparable to, but bigged up an incredibly niche title. You've ignored millions saying games are good, but taken the word of one friend and used that to try and make the claim that all PS5 exclusives have been shit.

Had you simply said none of them have interested you, noone would have called you out. Instead you used your opinion as objective fact.
 
Cannot you not see the hypocrisy in your posts? You've dismissed games that MS have nothing comparable to, but bigged up an incredibly niche title. You've ignored millions saying games are good, but taken the word of one friend and used that to try and make the claim that all PS5 exclusives have been shit.

Had you simply said none of them have interested you, noone would have called you out. Instead you used your opinion as objective fact.
I'll ignore you misrepresenting me.
Is Banjo Kazooie not more or less the same thing. Wasn't there a Rayman game released semi recently? They're usually highly rated. Are 3d platformers some unique, under represented genre these days?
I've taken the word of a friend who plays more or less nothing but racing games and has access to both consoles :confused:. It seems a reasonable source particularly when added to reviews which basically say its about as good as Forza Motorsport.
Mentioning MS Flight Sim is hardly bigging it up. I mentioned Horizon 2 and i think thats pretty bad. I didn't claim all PS5 exclusives have been shit, thats a strawman. I didn't use my opinion as objective fact, strawman. I didn't ignore millions saying games are good, strawman.
 
Ratchet and Clank and Sackboy are too childish but Sea of Thieves is a top 3 example for why Xbox has better exclusives.........

Sim racers dont tend to rate Gran Turismo, but there's not a sim racer in the world who would ever contemplate downloading Forza Horizon
Ratchet and Clank and Sackboy are made for and marketed at kids. Sea of Thieves isn't. Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon aren't the same game. Which you'd know if you cared about sim racing, so i guess you didn't buy a PS5 for Gran Turismo.
Good talk
 
Can we get this going again to take my mind off what just happened

in fairness, Xbox has had the better racing game and first person shooter this gen.
 
Can we get this going again to take my mind off what just happened

in fairness, Xbox has had the better racing game and first person shooter this gen.
Impression i got is that 3rd party are making better racing games than Forza Motorsport or Gran Turismo. So both have it. Better arcade racing game just by virtue of having one but theres an elephant in the room with that conversation.
Whats the best first person shooter this gen? I would have thought some multiplayer thing thats on everything again.
 
Can we get this going again to take my mind off what just happened

in fairness, Xbox has had the better racing game and first person shooter this gen.
Nonsense! GT7 in VR has this comparison wrapped up for the generation.
 
The demographics for Sea of Thieves is younger than the other two. :lol: Would love to see some evidence of their marketing being markedly different.

As for Forza, I mentioned Horizon because you brought it up. To be clear - no sim racer would ever contemplate playing any Forza game in the last decade. Forza Motorsport is an even bigger joke than Horizon, at least Horizon is obvious in not actually trying to be a racing game, and only trying to appeal to the most casual of casuals.

GT7 is a poor sim experience compared to iRacing or AC but it does at least have a solid driving mechanics and a semi-competitive online.

Like i said above neither seem great. Not enough simulation and not enough fun and they wind up in a weak middle ground. Or thats my impression.
 
Yeah that's true enough. There's been a real dearth of good arcade racing games since Codemasters turned into a clownshow and ruined both the Dirt and Grid series. Wreckfest is the only decent offering.
I'm pretty surprised at the sea of thieves demographic to be honest too. I'll take your word for it but vomiting in a bucket to extinguish the friend you set on fire by 'mistake' didn't feel childish (or it did in a good way).
 
Yeah that's true enough. There's been a real dearth of good arcade racing games since Codemasters turned into a clownshow and ruined both the Dirt and Grid series. Wreckfest is the only decent offering.

Blur, and Split/Second were the best arcade racers. Amazing games.