As a result of this protest in London, how many deaths of black people in this city, in the whole of the UK, or the whole of the world do you think will be avoided? The answer is very, very likely to be zero. Okay now how many deaths of black people (..or non black people) in the UK will result directly and indirectly from this protest? That is why this protest is such madness. There are so many other ways people can show solidarity. They will be responsible for more deaths in their communities than deaths at the hands of police officers. They chant Mark Duggan but they should be chanting their own names and the names of their loved ones.
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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That's crazy talk, a very terrible post, imagine being scared to die for making a positive change in community, to dismiss the right of protesting is just insane.
Might be? It is. Says a monument is defaced, its not, somebody did graffiti somewhere else. David Vance is inciting racial hatred.
You're quoting one of the most vilest creatures in twittersphere who amongst bigotry against muslims, transpeople also wants to bomb places
What a fecking terrible take.
Would they prefer pro-fascist sentiments? That'd get you get a fast tracked application form to the police force
The New York Times disgraces itself:
fooking hell. Boris better get away from his bedroom window
...3 or 5 fingers left for me, depending on whether ethnic/regional slurs qualify as racial(they're more like racist-adjacent). And i'm white and italian and lived most of my life in italy. Damn it Italy
It was never meant to be a big event.
How can a speech from Obama never be a big event? Especially right now on the issue of racial discrimination and police brutality.
What's insane is that people are defending this protest in the UK at this time. The murder of George Floyd and police brutality is a much more pertinent and current threat to black people in the USA. If the UK protest is a direct response to that event then it's pointless because it will have no bearing on the situation in the US. If the protest is more about racism as a whole in the UK and globally then why now, in the middle of a pandemic? It's fecking stupid.
I lost a few fingers but one was down to excessive flatulence in an elevator, so hardly counts...3 or 5 fingers left for me, depending on whether ethnic/regional slurs qualify as racial(they're more like racist-adjacent). And i'm white and italian and lived most of my life in italy. Damn it Italy
You would think that, but it wasn't.
Good stuff. Our prime minister needs to directly condemn/challenge Trump. They can’t stand by and watch as the US govt behaves like a dictatorship.
If Trump gets in again you can only fear the worst for America.
What's the difference between me posting that video and someone else sharing a Donald Trump video?
The repercussions don’t rest solely with the “persecuted community”. If cases spike, it’s going to affect virtually everyone. I don’t get how you seem to be placing maximum sanctity on protecting human life, which you see as under threat by police brutality and racism, yet don’t similarly find the threat of coronavirus to human life quite worrying? People can be horrified by racism and terrified that coronavirus might spread to their loved ones, or their wider community. Let’s not rank who’s the more upstanding citizen by what crisis they feel most aggrieved by.
Don’t expect Johnson to turn against Trump over the issue of race. He’s more likely to phone him up and share a joke with him because of it.
Just because it might happen more in the US doesn't mean it's not an issue in the UK though does it? As to why now you could ask the same question any time the protests might happen, the timing us irrelevant, the people 100% the right to express their frustrations and ask for their rights that might be more relevant to them than the pandemic, just because the pandemic is the biggest problem in YOUR life right now doesn't mean they share the same sentiment.
Exactly. Video didn’t match description, therefore inaccurate.
Don’t post stupid tweets by stupid people next time.
Oh maybe it's because Trump is president of the US and that's why people have to take a look at what he says unlike the common racist person.
Trump is the President of the USA. His voice is important. David Vance is a sad old man known to less than 1% of the British public. His voice is only important if people share it - like you are.
So next time if I see a relevant video worth posting to the caf from twitter I will make sure to vet them just in case they might be a bad guy. And then I will try and find the same video posted by someone else who isn't quite as offensive. Got it.
Who is David Vance?
Make sure the video matches the description too rather than the description trying to ignite division.
Imagine getting so indignant over wanting to post tweets from a racist.
Starting to think he’s P-Ro.
It's an opinion piece that they are publishing, while contentious (at best), they're trying to show some type of "balance". They are helping expose Sen. Cotton for what he is. I haven't read the piece, but I don't think the NYT would self-sabotage themselves. I haven't agreed with Sen. Cotton and probably will not agree on his op-ed piece, but people need perspective and choose for themselves how that immerses within what they believe or don't know.
The antithesis to Nicky. The left wing corporation tax adviser.
The US senator from where? Oh yeah,
Ar -Kansas. Kinell.
The only good thing to come out of there is Bill Clinton.
I assume you mean they should have refused to publish? Its an opinion piece by a fecking scumbag, yes, but a slippery slope not to publish. Plus everyone gets to see for themselves what a racist piece of crap he is.
Just when I thought you couldn’t get any weirder.
I don't particularly care what a hypocrite thinks about me, that's my point.
hypocrite? Ok David.Sorry if the following's not directly the subject-matter of this thread:
I saw a book title tonight. The title is The Good Immigrant (subtitle: 'Writers explore what it means to be Black, Asian, and ethnic minority in Britain today'). Christ, isn't it embarrassing to the nation that there's a book titled 'The Good Immigrant'? It's like a title I'd expect to see in Germany before the Nazis truly took hold, and it's reminiscent of that bitter, bored complaint from a leading Nazi who complained that many of his Party colleagues wanted to save a Jewish person from being persecuted: "Everyone has their 'good Jew'..." I'm ashamed that such a voice of protest exists. I'm ashamed that the editor felt it necessary to write such a book, and seek accounts from others who have experienced racism in Britain. And I'm ashamed that such a plea - that there are indeed, despite so much negative press and public opinion - 'good immigrants' - had to be made.
I saw a book title tonight. The title is The Good Immigrant (subtitle: 'Writers explore what it means to be Black, Asian, and ethnic minority in Britain today'). Christ, isn't it embarrassing to the nation that there's a book titled 'The Good Immigrant'? It's like a title I'd expect to see in Germany before the Nazis truly took hold, and it's reminiscent of that bitter, bored complaint from a leading Nazi who complained that many of his Party colleagues wanted to save a Jewish person from being persecuted: "Everyone has their 'good Jew'..." I'm ashamed that such a voice of protest exists. I'm ashamed that the editor felt it necessary to write such a book, and seek accounts from others who have experienced racism in Britain. And I'm ashamed that such a plea - that there are indeed, despite so much negative press and public opinion - 'good immigrants' - had to be made.
Fecking hell pogue. Charmed life you must lead. Please tell me you at least put a finger down for not being able to afford something expensive.if America goes down, we ain't going alone. Its a ready scary thought.
David Vance, from Vance Refrigeration.
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