Protests following the killing of George Floyd

Wtf is the NYT doing publishing that piece of shits “opinion piece”?!
If they hadn't, you don't think Tom would have said something to another outlet? I fecking hate the guy and don't like that they gave him the platform either, but there are a lot of questions about censorship going on right now so I can see why they felt they had to. If nothing else, gives dems ammo if they choose to use it.
 
If they hadn't, you don't think Tom would have said something to another outlet? I fecking hate the guy and don't like that they gave him the platform either, but there are a lot of questions about censorship going on right now so I can see why they felt they had to. If nothing else, gives dems ammo if they choose to use it.

I take your point, I just can’t stand the thundercnut and there’s plenty of more appropriate outlets for his bile.
 
If they hadn't, you don't think Tom would have said something to another outlet? I fecking hate the guy and don't like that they gave him the platform either, but there are a lot of questions about censorship going on right now so I can see why they felt they had to. If nothing else, gives dems ammo if they choose to use it.
He had already publicly called for the 101st Airborne to be called in and for them to give no quarter. He didn’t need another platform and shouldn’t have gotten one.
 
Think I've got 2 left, didn't quite understand the citation question
White people get let off with warnings / slaps on the wrist for things more often.

Ex) that white shitstain at Stanford that raped a girl and got 3 months in jail and probation for it. Meanwhile there are black people serving multi-year sentences in federal prison for possession of marijuana.
 
He had already publicly called for the 101st Airborne to be called in and for them to give no quarter. He didn’t need another platform and shouldn’t have gotten one.
yeah, and tried to walk it back and give a softer version of what he thought no quarter meant. He is a fecking piece of shit, ex-military, he knew exactly what he was saying. And I won't fight you in that I am not thrilled that NYT published it. But, I also understand why they chose not to refuse a United States senator's request to add his opinion to all the others. Can you imagine what Fox and Breitbart et al would do with that?
 
The size of that London protest... seems like less than half even bothering with masks. Genius.

Good luck protesting Covid brutality.
Police brutality or not one death is unacceptable. And all these protests are going to result in a spike in deaths. I as a parent in the uk worry about that primarily. I've read every post on here it's taken me a few days and I'm disgusted at America and trump, but I wish we could take a temporary step back and see that at the moment we have a pandemic here which is very precipitous.
 
Seems like its kicking off in London into the night.


Good stuff. Our prime minister needs to directly condemn/challenge Trump. They can’t stand by and watch as the US govt behaves like a dictatorship.

If Trump gets in again you can only fear the worst for America.
I can't believe there have been no replies to these tweets, were in the middle of the pandemic and these people are starting a riot and trying to goad the police into doing something, disgusting behaviour.

I have no comments in what's going on in America as it's not really my business as I live on the other side of the Atlantic as do all these on this video, what are they going to prove by rioting over here ?
 
I can't believe there have been no replies to these tweets, were in the middle of the pandemic and these people are starting a riot and trying to goad the police into doing something, disgusting behaviour.

I have no comments in what's going on in America as it's not really my business as I live on the other side of the Atlantic as do all these on this video, what are they going to prove by rioting over here ?
I think it's more about the issues in the UK now than it is about the issues in the US.
 
He's no longer a cop FYI.

Anyway the fact he has been with that very tattoo is quite unbelievable. In the UK you have to declare any tattoos and they are assessed during the vetting process. If you get them post joining and they are going to be in a visible place you again have to ask before hand and have it approved.

US military documents all tattoos for new enlistees and commissions, and those that get them while in service can face severe punishment up to discharge for distasteful, racist, gang affiliated, etc. I would think police would also go this route but perhaps not, or just turn a blind eye.
 



You follow this guy.

NFT.

Good for them!

It also won't make less real the many more deaths that will come directly cause of covid spread during the protests, compared to those of police brutality.
 
I can't believe there have been no replies to these tweets, were in the middle of the pandemic and these people are starting a riot and trying to goad the police into doing something, disgusting behaviour.

I have no comments in what's going on in America as it's not really my business as I live on the other side of the Atlantic as do all these on this video, what are they going to prove by rioting over here ?
Racism is a worldwide problem and I think this one is hitting home with people everywhere. Why can't right now be the time we start to fix it? Everywhere. No one sitting this one out while others do the work.

And, I keep seeing a lot of people say "riots". We are seeing flare ups and opportunists causing damage, not riots. Yet. Wait until these four officers get off on a technicality, then you will see riots.
 
Guardian said:
In Washington DC, personnel from the National Guard, US Park Police, Secret Service, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Drug Enforcement Administration, US Marshals Service, Bureau of Prisons, Customs and Border Protection, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement are all out patrolling the streets.
All this speaks of paranoia and, that apparently dread thing, 'politicising events'. Oh, and the obligatory overkill.
 
Racism is a worldwide problem and I think this one is hitting home with people everywhere. Why can't right now be the time we start to fix it? Everywhere. No one sitting this one out while others do the work.

And, I keep seeing a lot of people say "riots". We are seeing flare ups and opportunists causing damage, not riots. Yet. Wait until these four officers get off on a technicality, then you will see riots.
Racism is definitely a world wide issue. But so is covid 19. And its killing us all, so maybe now isnt the time to get together in huge numbers. Another spike is coming and the deaths in their thousands will be indiscriminate.
 
It's quite obvious, you don't have to be Chauvin himself to see the motivation.

Which police handbook advises to withdraw a gun out on a person suspected of using a forged $20 bank note? You're failing to grasp the concept of racial profiling here.
There is no police handbook which permits the police to use the same force against the white man Tony Timpa either. It's nothing more than a bold assumption to say race is the motivation here.
 
Some clarification on the charges, it appears to be “Felony Murder” in which you don’t have to prove intent just that it occurred during a felony assault, so not the increased burden of proof that I assumed. It carries a 40 year max sentence instead of 25, and the 3rd degree and Manslaughter charges are still there.

NBC News
 
The New York Times disgraces itself:


Just read that this PoS is running unopposed in the next election. Apparently the dem opponent dropped out and Arkansas won't let anyone else on the ballot. Against my better judgment I read this op piece. This guy is insane and wants to get back to the good old days where you could just be racist out in the open and if anyone doesn't like it they beat the crap out of you. At least. Disturbing.
 
The repercussions don’t rest solely with the “persecuted community”. If cases spike, it’s going to affect virtually everyone. I don’t get how you seem to be placing maximum sanctity on protecting human life, which you see as under threat by police brutality and racism, yet don’t similarly find the threat of coronavirus to human life quite worrying? People can be horrified by racism and terrified that coronavirus might spread to their loved ones, or their wider community. Let’s not rank who’s the more upstanding citizen by what crisis they feel most aggrieved by.

I'm not disparaging anyone who doesn't want to go outside due to the pandemic. I'm also not disparaging anyone who feels the need to protest.

I'm reserving comment for those who feel the need to condescend on protesters as if they don't understand the additional risks they are taking on by stepping outside the door.
 
Thanks, man. I'm just curious that if other non-white race is in-charge of power, they wouldn't do the same (or even worse). What do you think?
Yes, it likely would. Racism is just one type of bias. As an African I've seen black on black racism, tribalism, east vs west or North versus South, religious or ideologic persecution, and the list goes on.

Racism is arguably the ugliest and most pronounced bias in the world today, but there are many others that need to be fought.
 
There is no police handbook which permits the police to use the same force against the white man Tony Timpa either. It's nothing more than a bold assumption to say race is the motivation here.
Yeah, right.

What you and Buchan do is reduce the killing of George Floyd to one singular incident of one singular cop, and then act like his lawyer. One needs only a minimal amount of sense and goodwill to see this incident within the context of the bigger picture, which neither of you have shown.
 
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I'm not disparaging anyone who doesn't want to go outside due to the pandemic. I'm also not disparaging anyone who feels the need to protest.

I'm reserving comment for those who feel the need to condescend on protesters as if they don't understand the additional risks they are taking on by stepping outside the door.
This is good. I'm somewhat torn on it and can fully understand the reservations of those with concerns over spreading the virus. However you can't bottle this outpouring up and preserve it for a future time with sunnier forecasts.
 
I'm not disparaging anyone who doesn't want to go outside due to the pandemic. I'm also not disparaging anyone who feels the need to protest.

I'm reserving comment for those who feel the need to condescend on protesters as if they don't understand the additional risks they are taking on by stepping outside the door.
Exactly, people shouting covid19 when talking about the protests need to understand that for the protestors the cause is worth the risk.