Because people are angry and peaceful protests are often ineffective. I'd point to Colin Kaepernick, just look at the backlash he received from a peaceful protest. It reached a number of people worldwide, but unfortunately didn't change much.
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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I really hope you’re not referencing my post.
What you refer to are the protests of 1933... So not at all what I was referring to. At least have the nerve to tag me if you’re going to try (and fail) to discredit me.
Sorry.
I disagree with your opinion, certainly not because I possess any superior knowledge but because (I guess) we perceive things differently; in my view, progress only arrives because of force - force of circumstances (disasters, plagues leading to financial collapse etc etc) or force of political pressure. And, of course, because of leaders' realisation that change is inevitable so they might as well board the bandwagon.
What would happen if a load of people just stormed the White House? Looking at that picture of Washington makes me think it could happen.
Appreciate the apology. That’s fine. I want to be clear though: my opinion can not be gleaned from the post you referenced, because I was regurgitating fact. It would be a gross simplification of the problem to denounce the riots without understanding the history and context - we both agree on that.
Fine summary and attitude. Thank you.
That's interesting with regards to leadership as there must be an awful lot of Americans looking at Trump and knowing they'll never see any meaningful change to their country with him at the helm. When you put the into perspective I guess you must look at other avenues with regards to how you can bring about change. With Obama at least there was always the possibility things could be different with people willing to be patient going given the element of hope that existed. With Trump though? Well.
Wonder if using the red truck was intentional or not?
Not what you said though. You said you would walk out there in front of them.
Ye. Why not. That's what leader does. Ive seen my mayor joining the protest.
They’d very quickly be shot by the secret service agents armed with automatic rifles.
Jesus, what a circular exchange.
To summarise:
You - if I was Trump I would walk right out there.
Me - you would get shot.
You - what's the alternative, nuclear bunker?
Me - are you saying theres only two options, walk out there or nuclear bunker?
You - he could stay in the oval office?
Me - *pointing at above* that's not what you said, you said you'd walk right our there.
You - yeah, why not?
I don't even.
Sorry but they could not.
It would be a political decision to give up the White House because too many lives of the protestors/citizens would be lost.
It would also require that a lot/tens of thousands of protesters/citizens would be willing to die.
A trained and equipped regiment/division with air support (nothing heavy, just a few helicopters equipped with machines guns and grenade launchers and for recon) would probably enough to hold the white house against mostly unarmed protesters.
Even at the moment they could probably repel a few thousand protesters with a few well placed machine guns, and that is without further support coming.
Sorry for the military excursion
A lot of people would get shot, is my guess.
It's painful enough to follow, not sure how it'd be as a participant.
No way everything could go to court. Numbers like this could paralyze the system.
But, if we can throw hospitals up in weeks, we could throw jails up in days.
What do we actually think is happening here? Undercover cops?
And America loves its jails.
So bunker it is boys
Man if that doesnt summarise today's America, I dont know what does
Trump's words and actions continually confirm that the protesters are correct in their feelings and opinions.
It's as if Cameron Alexander from American History X became president.
It's as if Cameron Alexander from American History X became president.
They’re probably getting prefabbed somewhere even as we chat.
Even apocalypse can be turned into profit, it seems.
I should've guessed that!
Loving the protests and the fact that people are ready to go against the Western establishments. My only criticism of the riots is people going against private property, instead of aiming for the public one and the government institutions.
The local communities deserve help, not destruction. Seeing police vehicles and precincts on fire is a beautiful sight, though.
The local communities deserve help, not destruction. Seeing police vehicles and precincts on fire is a beautiful sight, though.
The other side will clutch pearls at the indignation & disrespect shown by the black FBI agent to the police & claim his attitude is the problem. Toss in some ‘obviously he wasn’t on the same side as the police’ & ‘if he isan FBI agent, why is he out in a protest?’
He's just shouting TV shows now.
Sounds like Grapes of Wrath, although that didn't broach the subject of Mexican workers.
As already mentioned he's not an FBI agent and the video itself is over a year old. FYI.
Gotcha, but doesn’t stop the fact that such thoughts from the other side. The video is being purported shown incorrectly, that’s disappointing to twist facts, but the right will absolutely think that the black detainee is in the wrong.
Must say I’m shocked that a legitimate source like this would try to mislead anyone.
Could be, but probably just another lunatic trying to incite violence. But then again, those cops didn't really look keen on arresting him.
Once we get somewhere with the protests against police brutality, I say we set our sights on protesting kpop fans
Finally freaking caught up with this thread after I had to shut off for 24 hours, couldn't take it, man how things have escalated. What is this world coming to geez.
Any source for this?
Already mentioned earlier. Go look at his Instagram page and there's a longer video to view.
Well link his insta then!?