Proposal to ban X.com links

[POLL] Should we ban Twitter embedding from this site?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes - but only if we have Bluesky embedding

  • Undecided


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Nowhere near, it's just because he's right wing and most on this site a lefties.
Also because Twitter is a shithole run by an owner who has been actively using the forum to instigate and project fake news. that results in actions on the ground.
Also is banning/deleting views not to his liking. Deleting trends because that is not what he likes. The problems with twitter has become ridiculous since Musk has taken over. It has been coming for a while.

And by the way, the owner of this social media site is part of the government, in an official position. When Trump pardoned Jan 6 rioters, Musk sent executives from Twitter/Space X to force the jail authorities to release the prisioners without delay and get back to Musk if somebody creates roadblocks. In a regular developed country, that would violate several laws. A private company is now running part of the govt.


And then there is this Nazi salute. It is not something the right/left wing should be aligning with. People have lost jobs, got kicked out of colleges for doing a Nazi salute as a joke, even in private. It is only fair that Musk/Twitter faces the same backlash.
 
In a weird way, I kinda wish Bluesky would roll out advertising on their platform. The moment companies have to think about where they're going to spend their ad budget is the moment Twitter/X starts to crumble.
 
In a weird way, I kinda wish Bluesky would roll out advertising on their platform. The moment companies have to think about where they're going to spend their ad budget is the moment Twitter/X starts to crumble.
I think they will be propped up by some companies. Many are clamouring to get on Trump's good side and I think quite a few will ditch "inclusivity" and cozy up to the MAGA crowd. Ultimately, I think X will become less popular overall but still very influential among the right. It will however be a bot infested shithole, full of misinformation and racism.

Some people have said that it's still a good place for people in Palestine to speak out about what's going on there but I believe that the pro-Palestine stuff will be quashed soon.
 
The more realistic hope is that it will contribute to journalists also posting on BlueSky, which will then make BlueSky more viable, X less needed, and so on.

It's also just X. Convenient as Tweets are, it's not like there are no other news outlets.
Redcafe won't contribute to that, I don't think it has this type of influence.

I understand doing it out of principle but not if the goal is to bring X down or whatever. I boycott loads of stuff, and I know this won't have any effect on most of them at all like Amazon for example.
 
They're being sarcastic.

But the S does stand for socialist and A for labourers, so there you go.
Let's not go there, that's an actual pretentious argument being used by far right extremists.
 
Redcafe won't contribute to that, I don't think it has this type of influence.

I understand doing it out of principle but not if the goal is to bring X down or whatever. I boycott loads of stuff, and I know this won't have any effect on most of them at all like Amazon for example.
Yeah, I know, it's also for the principle of it. I do the same. But you also have to hope you ultimately contribute to something, or at least I do.
 
Let's not go there, that's an actual pretentious argument being used by far right extremists.
I wasn't actually seriously going there.

We'll need a joke sign for you. :)
 
Hopefully it gets banned on this site. The transfer thread is super helpful but I'm not here to support Nazis so the inconvenience is trivial.
 
It's more that trying to force people one way normally backfires, that's all. As is clearly evident!

Are we going to vet the owner of every company we use? That would be tiring. If you had a Tesla, would you be selling it?



Of course not, but X is used by a great many people, it's not all about Musk. I follow a lot of football related accounts and don't really care what Musk is waffling on about.

While I do think Musk is a very strange man with some dangerous agendas, he's fairly easy to ignore... he'll implode at some point and hopefully X will be back under new ownership. I hope they change the name back to Twitter, too.
Imagine being stupid enough to buy one of those shit boxes in the first place.
 
I'll miss the transfer tweets, but yeah, feck twitter, it needs to die, hopefully some other platform takes up the slack.
 
Musk is a centrist though, it's society that has drifted to the far left in recent years.
You are probably being sarcastic, but I was reminded of this

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99% of football tweets are conjecture and BS. We wouldn't be missing anything crucial by binning them. I'm sure we're able to keep tabs on the usual tier 1 sources like Ornstein without twitter embeds, meanwhile not being able to post tweets from 'SoccerNews24' or 'IndyKalla' every 5 minutes is no real loss.
 
Meh, transfer tweets threads is a small price to pay. It’s not like the caf was any less fun 15 years back
 
It really seems to be get out clause for people and racists who can't actually present an argument and use a lazy answer like leftist etc.

Similar to liberals who label everyone as 'far-right' when they have an opposing view to them.
 
If x is so great for transfer tweets and best in keeping you informed what do people need the caf for when they just use it as tweet repository?
 
Well most of X/TWT is and has been inflammatory for a long time and just getting worse and worse. But as fast as it is for getting news out for football it's always been a useful and effective tool. I don't know if Bluesky is there yet to take over that function? X is still leading. Are the usual suspects present on Bluesky?
 
99% of football tweets are conjecture and BS. We wouldn't be missing anything crucial by binning them. I'm sure we're able to keep tabs on the usual tier 1 sources like Ornstein without twitter embeds, meanwhile not being able to post tweets from 'SoccerNews24' or 'IndyKalla' every 5 minutes is no real loss.
Precisely. I don’t even think so much value would be lost
 
You really are showing yourself to have no clue. Have you seen the content Musk has posted and shared? Have you seen him defending the likes of Tommy Robinson? Perhaps you share the same views as him.

He isn't wrong though and you literally just proved his statement correct. You didn't agree with what he said so went associated him with far right views. You couldn't have proved him more right if you tried.
 
Well most of X/TWT is and has been inflammatory for a long time and just getting worse and worse. But as fast as it is for getting news out for football it's always been a useful and effective tool. I don't know if Bluesky is there yet to take over that function? X is still leading. Are the usual suspects present on Bluesky?

I've done a few spot checks and ultimately the answer is no, X is still far superior for the majority of football content. In fact there's no comparison really.
 
Well most of X/TWT is and has been inflammatory for a long time and just getting worse and worse. But as fast as it is for getting news out for football it's always been a useful and effective tool. I don't know if Bluesky is there yet to take over that function? X is still leading. Are the usual suspects present on Bluesky?

It's a chicken/egg situation. If we kill Twitter/X then they will follow the traffic.
 
He isn't wrong though and you literally just proved his statement correct. You didn't agree with what he said so went associated him with far right views. You couldn't have proved him more right if you tried.
WTF are you on about? I asked him about Musk's views and thought him defending Musk with his arguments means he might share his views. His argument is everyone is labelled far-right, where did I mention that in my post?
 
WTF are you on about? I asked him about Musk's views and thought him defending Musk with his arguments means he might be a supporter of his. His argument is everyone is labelled far-right, where did I mention that in my post?

You asked him if he had seen Musks posts and the posts about [the far right guy] Tommy Robinson and said perhaps he shares the same views.

You did exactly what his post said by adding "perhaps you share the same views".
 
You asked him if he had seen Musks posts about [the far right guy] Tommy Robinson and said perhaps he shares the same views.

You know what I'm talking about, you did exactly what his post said by adding "perhaps you share the same views".

Oh bore off with your strawman shite. He made a simpleton argument that everyone is labelled far right. Yes I asked him about sharing the same views as Musk because according to him people are labelled far-right by anyone who disagrees with them. What is it with Musk supporters having meltdowns as the sheer mention of a criticism of their hero.
 
Wait, why don't we only allow football transfer tweets? Ban everything else.

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Or I guess it would still be supporting a racist cnut yeah?
 
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Oh bore off with your strawman shite. He made a simpleton argument that everyone is labelled far right. Yes I asked him about sharing the same views as Musk because according to him people are labelled far-right by anyone who disagrees with them. What is it with Musk supporters having meltdowns as the sheer mention of a criticism of their hero.

Yeah ok, I'm not looking to argue, I'm just pointing out that's where this labelling idea comes from.

As for Musk, I couldn't care less, I think the guys a weirdo.
 
I strongly disagree with the sentiment it’s a “Nazi run platform”, as much of a bellend as the owner is. So I say keep it as long as it’s still providing useful information. If it’s not then lose it. Though I don’t have any strong opinions on X as such, I’ve never actually used it personally, I only ever see it when tweets are linked.

What is there to disagree? The man who runs the platform is literally a Nazi.
Are we going to vet the owner of every company we use? That would be tiring. If you had a Tesla, would you be selling it?
Let's do the comparison right: would you continue to drive a Tesla if the new software update had everything shown in Fraktur script while the navigation was read out by Hitler's voice?
 
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