Proposal to ban X.com links

[POLL] Should we ban Twitter embedding from this site?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes - but only if we have Bluesky embedding

  • Undecided


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Yeah ok, I'm not looking to argue, I'm just pointing out that's where this labelling idea comes from.

As for Musk, I couldn't care less, I think the guys a weirdo.
My reaction was based on the argument itself, the reason why I got annoyed is because it is used by people to dismiss any racist criticisms of them, to absolve themselves from any blame over the things they say. It's more prevalent over social media especially X now. It's like they think it excuses their behaviour hence my (probably more aggressive than needed) response to your post.
 
Wait, why don't we only allow football transfer tweets? Ban everything else.
It would be pointless banning it everywhere else but not from the threads that get Twitter the most views from the caf.
 
You asked him if he had seen Musks posts and the posts about [the far right guy] Tommy Robinson and said perhaps he shares the same views.

You did exactly what his post said by adding "perhaps you share the same views".

Thank you for highlighting my point.

Oh bore off with your strawman shite. He made a simpleton argument that everyone is labelled far right. Yes I asked him about sharing the same views as Musk because according to him people are labelled far-right by anyone who disagrees with them. What is it with Musk supporters having meltdowns as the sheer mention of a criticism of their hero.

This does sound like you're having a meltdown. Take a deep breath.
 
What about banning links/embedding but allowing a picture i.e screenshot of a post? Off the forum people will use X if they want to and see Man Utd info but this way they can share it without giving X the views and traffic.

Or would that be missing the point?
 
I explained my point to the poster which you clearly have conveniently missed. And yet you don’t seem to have answered any of the questions in my previous post?

I'm sorry, I'm not perfect. Your post which I apparently "conveniently missed" was posted a matter of minutes before I replied. I didn't see it.

Your posts have essentially branded me as 'clueless' and a 'simpleton', which I find insulting. Your questions were out of context with my initial post and just proved my point. I have no interest in responding to your accusational statements.
 
What about banning links/embedding but allowing a picture i.e screenshot of a post? Off the forum people will use X if they want to and see Man Utd info but this way they can share it without giving X the views and traffic.

Or would that be missing the point?
I'd be fine with this but I'd also be fine with people just say "I read this on X" and put it into their own (or AI's) words.

Posting screenshots might be a minefield in respects to copyright, but I'm not a lawyer.
 
I'd be fine with this but I'd also be fine with people just say "I read this on X" and put it into their own (or AI's) words.

Posting screenshots might be a minefield in respects to copyright, but I'm not a lawyer.

I guess nothing stopping just copying and pasting the text into a quote and including who the poster was? People can then go look for themselves if they want then but no direct links to X. Would be easier.
 
I'm sorry, I'm not perfect. Your post which I apparently "conveniently missed" was posted a matter of minutes before I replied. I didn't see it.

Your posts have essentially branded me as 'clueless' and a 'simpleton', which I find insulting. Your questions were out of context with my initial post and just proved my point. I have no interest in responding to your accusational statements.

Oh dear, another person wanting to use a cheap argument to defend against hate language but runs away at the mere sight of basic questions. My post clearly says you made a simpleton argument and never used the word clueless. My questions are based on your initial post about Musk being criticised as far right and reasons why. You have shown yourself to be another individual to use a baseless argument to defend in favour of far right language and run with your tail between your legs when confronted with any argument against that. Pathetic stuff really.
 
Yes.

If there was an option to remove embedded tweets on an account level I'd have done that a while ago.
 
I'd be fine with this but I'd also be fine with people just say "I read this on X" and put it into their own (or AI's) words.

Posting screenshots might be a minefield in respects to copyright, but I'm not a lawyer.
What if we drew the tweet?
 
Surely the proposal is to help reduce traffic to Twitter and impact their revenue, so any kind of interaction with the site would undo this effort (taking screenshots etc - you are still actively visiting Twitter and giving the site clicks).

If you are bothered about Twitter, it must be banned in all forms or you are just cutting off your nose to spite your own face on the Caf.
 
Personally love the transfer tweets thread, probably what I visit most on this site.
 
What if we drew the tweet?
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That is an overestimation of the power of subreddits and football forums, Twitter/X/whatever is a lot bigger than any of that and this will not really put a dent in them or Musk, for whom its a money losing vanity project anyway. Journalists for major sports publications like The Athletic aren't going to boycott X because their employers won't want them to sacrifice that kind of reach, so their breaking news will still be there, ergo the readership will still be there. Half of the users on here/those subreddits will just end up using it privately anyways to read the same things they'd have been reading on here.

If it gratifies the majority of the forum to sacrifice a great function of this place so that they can be under the impression that they're doing something of consequence then have at it, I think it will just needlessly take away one of the best things on here, which is people parsing United related news/rumors and giving you good takes on who is and isn't a trustworthy source. If X embeds are gone you will just have people posting second-hand info they read on there anyway, and then people clogging the place up clarifying the source and its reliability without actually being able to just link it.

I’d agree with you on individual football forums but Reddit absolutely dwarfs Twitter.

4.5billion monthly visits compared to Twitters half a billion. Almost double the average visit duration and a lower bounce rate.

Now a lot of twitters use is via embedded and shared tweets which may be seen but not result in an actual visit, but the same can be said for Reddit. Try to Google something and see how many of the results are from Reddit. It’s a massive, massive part of the internet, even for people who mighnt even know what it is, or consider themselves users of the platform. We saw that during the subreddit blackouts a while back.

Enough subreddits banning tweets could absolutely cripple the platform in my opinion. Or at least devalue it to the extent Elon starts to consider selling up.
 
Oh dear, another person wanting to use a cheap argument to defend against hate language but runs away at the mere sight of basic questions. My post clearly says you made a simpleton argument and never used the word clueless. My questions are based on your initial post about Musk being criticised as far right and reasons why. You have shown yourself to be another individual to use a baseless argument to defend in favour of far right language and run with your tail between your legs when confronted with any argument against that. Pathetic stuff really.

You really are showing yourself to have no clue.
= Clueless.

I have no idea where you are drawing "hate/far-right language" from in relation to my posts. If my point was a "simpleton argument", then that's your view and a rather biased one.

I merely stated how liberals are very quick to label people that have opposing views to theirs as being far-right. Coincidentlly, here you are making suggestions that I am a far-right defender when you have no idea of any views I have. Talk about pathetic.
 
= Clueless.

I have no idea where you are drawing "hate/far-right language" from in relation to my posts. If my point was a "simpleton argument", then that's your view and a rather biased one.

I merely stated how liberals are very quick to label people that have opposing views to theirs as being far-right. Coincidentlly, here you are making suggestions that I am a far-right defender when you have no idea of any views I have. Talk about pathetic.

Your post showed you had no clue regarding the argument you were making. I then outlined your argument that Musk was being labelled far right because of opposing views was bollocks and gave examples of why he is. You've ignored responding to that. I then queried if you were a Musk supporter because the same arguments you make is the same used by others who are. You can't respond to any of those points and crying playing the victim. That's why I said pathetic.
 
It should be banned already. If we can add Bluesky functionality in the future then that’s fantastic, all but 3 of the tier one sources on RedCafe’s tier list have Bluesky accounts now, but we shouldn’t be waiting for that to stop contributing traffic to a business owned by a Nazi.

I’ve disabled transfer tweet alerts and ignored the thread. It’s a brilliant system that I use multiple times every day, but I lived without it before and I can do so again.
 
Your post showed you had no clue regarding the argument you were making. I then outlined your argument that Musk was being labelled far right because of opposing views was bollocks and gave examples of why he is. You've ignored responding to that. I then queried if you were a Musk supporter because the same arguments you make is the same used by others who are. You can't respond to any of those points and crying playing the victim. That's why I said pathetic.

Wrong. Not once have I mentioned or made reference to Musk. Go back and read my posts again. I'll wait.
 
Similar to liberals who label everyone as 'far-right' when they have an opposing view to them.

The mish mash of terms and labels is infuriating. Do you see the dichotomy as liberal v the right? Because that's really clumsy.

The labelling of Musk as far right is not a baseless reflex pulled out of the air. His own connections to the right have been wol documented, before he did a fascist salute.

He was on stage at the inauguration of Donald Trump, who also has a litany of connections to white supremacists and armed fascistic militia.

Pull your head out of the sand.
 
Wrong. Not once have I mentioned or made reference to Musk. Go back and read my posts again. I'll wait.

What is the title of the thread you are posting in where everyone is discussing? Are they discussing Ronald McDonald? Mr Blobby? Cars? Bikes? They are discussing Musk and X so your post is related to that, otherwise why are you wasting your time posting in this thread. You know exactly what your post was about and the point you were making. We've seen it.
 
Personally love the transfer tweets thread, probably what I visit most on this site.
I liked it when the trains ran on time, that we ever let a small thing like millions of deaths get in the way of that baffles me.
 
The mish mash of terms and labels is infuriating. Do you see the dichotomy as liberal v the right? Because that's really clumsy.

The labelling of Musk as far right is not a baseless reflex pulled out of the air. His own connections to the right have been wol documented, before he did a fascist salute.

He was on stage at the inauguration of Donald Trump, who also has a litany of connections to white supremacists and armed fascistic militia.

Pull your head out of the sand.
Based on his other posts, it seems he wanted to just use whataboutery as an argument and did not think of Musk who was the topic of discussion.
 
BBC reporting that over a 100 sub reddits have banned X. Including the nfl one as well as nba, also Liverpool, Celtic, Spurs and F1
Reddit groups ban X links in protest at Musk arm gesture https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c77r1p887e5o

Niall should send them a press release if we ban it. Biggest Man United forum in the world bans X has a good ring.
 
BBC reporting that over a 100 sub reddits have banned X. Including the nfl one as well as nba, also Liverpool, Celtic, Spurs and F1
Reddit groups ban X links in protest at Musk arm gesture https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c77r1p887e5o

Niall should send them a press release if we ban it. Biggest Man United forum in the world bans X has a good ring.
"Arm gesture", "awkward bent arm", 'expression of love/joy" all kinds of fancy words being thrown around to justify.
 
I liked it when the trains ran on time, that we ever let a small thing like millions of deaths get in the way of that baffles me.
That blagger only made one train run on time, while he was sat on it. Did make a load of the stations a bit prettier though.
 
Similar to liberals who label everyone as 'far-right' when they have an opposing view to them.
This is ridiculous, there's ample evidence that this new regime are far right and you're pulling a pogueism and downplay it all.
It’s always the posters you most suspect
When I'm supreme dictator of Redcafe you can be my minister of explulsions.
 
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