Would it mean links to transfer rumours/news would be banned? For me that’s like 90% of this sites use.
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yep that's what I meant, to keep an eye on them
I don't see any value in challenging opinions on the platform
Well that's depressing.
As much as I despise the nazi, I don't think banning linking to the site is the way to go. A lot of stuff comes from there that is actually pretty good, plus if it gets banned we can't post tweets making fun of him.
I'll give you one example
when the owner did a Nazi salute a big chunk of society has quickly jumped to his defence and said that wasn't what he intended
if those people were aware of how toxic his own website has become, and that he clearly amplifies extremist views on it, I don't think they'd be so quick to jump in and say it was his autism or whatever
anyway, I get your point about the futility of it all, it's depressing and there are no obvious answers to these difficult problems we face
It’s a big part of the site for many users. Having to scroll through Twitter for 20 minutes to see what’s going on or click on the Caf and see all the latest news in 2 minutes would be a big loss
Some of the reddit subs are doing screenshots of tweets only, until such time that people move somewhere else and they can embed again.
@Damien Would the system allow twitter to be banned on the site with the exception of the transfer forum, as an interim measure?
https://forum.sealionpress.co.uk/index.php?threads/bluesky-embeds.7123/
^^^There certainly seems to be some sort of workaround that enables bluesky embeds on a Xenforo platform:
Edit: They seem to use s9e for embed purposes, same as Redcafe:
Edit 2: Here is an update from them: https://xenforo.com/community/threads/s9e-media-sites.139274/post-1717468
^^^There certainly seems to be some sort of workaround that enables bluesky embeds on a Xenforo platform:
Edit: They seem to use s9e for embed purposes, same as Redcafe:
Edit 2: Here is an update from them: https://xenforo.com/community/threads/s9e-media-sites.139274/post-1717468
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Don't underestimate the power we all have to drive traffic away from Twitter and onto another platform (Bluesky looking to be the most likely), all we can do is be a part of the movement that is happening and as the largest Manchester United fan forum on the internet we will have a decent say in forcing accounts from journos and the like to another site, even if they use both in the short term it all helps. United are huge for journos engagement as we all know and they will want to keep that, every little helps.
Yes, screenshots only. Don't give him any more traffic.
Is this all because you don’t like Elon musk? What has he done now?
I'd keep the transfer tweets
I can only speak for myself but I have disliked Twitter from day one. The 140 character limit was a self filtering mechanism for people who like to argue within 140 characters. In my opinion it had already had a detrimental effect on this forum before it was bought by the psycho.
They don't like him because he's heily functional autist.
People have been talking about banning that shit hole for a long time. Only now that the owner is a confirmed fascist (many of us already knew this) has it grown legs. There is absolutely no good reason to keep using the largest platform for fascist propaganda of all time when there are fine alternatives.I can't stand Musk, but X is still a good platform and nothing else compares at the moment. Bluesky is just turning into a bit of a left-wing echo chamber which isn't particularly helpful.
I would keep it for now, personally. It's not really difficult to just follow the people you are interested in and ignore the rest. Most of the big football writers still use it, for example.
There is definitely an element of the slightly liberal "must ban things I don't like" to this... and that generally backfires, look at who was just elected president.
That is an overestimation of the power of subreddits and football forums, Twitter/X/whatever is a lot bigger than any of that and this will not really put a dent in them or Musk, for whom its a money losing vanity project anyway. Journalists for major sports publications like The Athletic aren't going to boycott X because their employers won't want them to sacrifice that kind of reach, so their breaking news will still be there, ergo the readership will still be there. Half of the users on here/those subreddits will just end up using it privately anyways to read the same things they'd have been reading on here.
If it gratifies the majority of the forum to sacrifice a great function of this place so that they can be under the impression that they're doing something of consequence then have at it, I think it will just needlessly take away one of the best things on here, which is people parsing United related news/rumors and giving you good takes on who is and isn't a trustworthy source. If X embeds are gone you will just have people posting second-hand info they read on there anyway, and then people clogging the place up clarifying the source and its reliability without actually being able to just link it.
My take is that the shite far outweighs any good stuff hence my vote is to get rid
A lot of these journos will also be on BlueSky too. You can still get most of the content from a different place.
I suppose we should do nothing because we have no power.
I think that we should ban links to Twitter, and that we should allow embeds from BlueSky.
You can probably go a step removed and screenshot Eggscancel just to be eggstra.
Nowhere near, it's just because he's right wing and most on this site a lefties.
I know this isn't a discussion on the subject of Musk but statements like this really piss me off. There is a poll to ban because Twitter is full of racists, abuse etc with no moderation. It's full of mis-information. It's owner recently conducted a Nazi salute. I think we are a bit far fetched to call it right wing/left wing. If you want to present an argument to keep X links then do it otherwise don't talk bollocks.
Reddit groups ban X links in protest at Musk arm gesture
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77r1p887e5oIt's depressing that news outlets aren't just saying it for what it is. "Arm gesture" ffs.
Dumb noob question: when an embedded tweet loads on any other website, is that "traffic" for Twitter?
As far as Twitter is concerned I really couldn't be arsed either way. I don't use it. That said, many interesting and useful things are posted on here that are from there and so I have decided to be undecided. Ambivalent, even.
Even people right of centre shouldn't be tolerating Nazi salutes. It really speaks to how shallow and uninformed some people's political beliefs are that "do what the left don't like" is the foundation for everything.
It really seems to be get out clause for people and racists who can't actually present an argument and use a lazy answer like leftist etc.
Putin is also right wing, what's your point?
I would hope that people are smart enough to know what is nazi propaganda and refrain from posting it.
Musk is a centrist though, it's society that has drifted to the far left in recent years.
Some people on here are barely smart enough to differentiate fascism from autism, so... I dunno? In fairness they both end in ism.
Putin is trouble (understatement) for Russia and surrounding countries, Musk is trouble for the US. That by itself already involves more people, but through Twitter, Musk's wealth, and the US's geopolitical position, his impact is further amplified.
He hasn't started a war and sent his people into certain death, of course, so the comparison is difficult to actually make, and what I'm saying is rather simplistic. But so was the initial question, so there you go.
I'm guessing the NSDAP was centrist as well then, according to you.
The more realistic hope is that it will contribute to journalists also posting on BlueSky, which will then make BlueSky more viable, X less needed, and so on.
It's also just X. Convenient as Tweets are, it's not like there are no other news outlets.
I'm sure people also make fun of Musk on other social media.
Yes.
You just need to take a look at his posting history for the past year to believe that is absolute bollocks.
They're being sarcastic.
But the S does stand for socialist and A for labourers, so there you go.
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