Proposal to ban X.com links

[POLL] Should we ban Twitter embedding from this site?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes - but only if we have Bluesky embedding

  • Undecided


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Very much opposed to a ban. If people don't want to post or click on twitter links that's their choice and i support their right to not do so.

Equally I support the right of others to use what is still a very relevant platform.Trying to enforce a ban on others is a different matter entirely.
 
Voted 'No' but not that bothered if it goes

Not a fan of Elon and there is obviously tons of absolute shite on Twitter, but if you carefully filter who you follow and ignore the rest then it's not difficult to make it a useful source of info

There isn't currently any other outlet that's as good for general United news so until BlueSky/Threads or whatever gets more users then I will keep using it
 
Very much opposed to a ban. If people don't want to post or click on twitter links that's their choice and i support their right to not do so.

Equally I support the right of others to use what is still a very relevant platform.Trying to enforce a ban on others is a different matter entirely.
We won't be banning people from using it, it just won't be posted on this site.

You can still look at porn but you can't post it on the caf.
 
Yeah I’d say to stop using it. Musk has stopped just being a bit of a tit and is actively trying to promote far right politics in the UK. My company stopped using it and I support dropping it everywhere now.

There’ll be an impact in terms of sourcing clips etc, but it’s not like 5 years ago where everything was on twitter anyway.
 
Very much opposed to a ban. If people don't want to post or click on twitter links that's their choice and i support their right to not do so.

Equally I support the right of others to use what is still a very relevant platform.Trying to enforce a ban on others is a different matter entirely.
It's contributed to making the board worse to the point that we have a thread in the generals that's the substitute for what the united forum used to be. And it's been a blessing how few tweets are posted there.
 
Very much opposed to a ban. If people don't want to post or click on twitter links that's their choice and i support their right to not do so.

Equally I support the right of others to use what is still a very relevant platform.Trying to enforce a ban on others is a different matter entirely.
A relevant platform that
  1. Has actively helped the spread of misinformation
  2. Is increasingly full of antogonising RW voices and bots, which are amplied over other voices.
  3. It actively creates echo chambers, further contributing to misinformation and divided opinion.
  4. Is owned by a literal fascist who'll use any tool he has access to further his goals.
  5. Free speech is weaponized when far-right groups exploit Twitter’s policies on free expression to push harmful ideologies, and then cry censorship when challenged.
Appeasing fascism is how it grows. Downplaying it is how we got here. I used to love Twitter and how it was a global town hall, but it's not that anymore.
The sooner people realise that the better. It's a cesspit used to divide us and should be nuked from orbit.
 
Sure, ban it.

It's not forcing a twitter ban on anyone, as they can still be on twitter and follow whatever they're interested in to their heart's content.

But it would encourage posters to go elsewhere for their news if they want to share it on this site. And it seems fair for the forum to think that's a good thing to encourage.
 
It should be clear but I'm starting to think some of you people are a bit confused:

You will still be allowed to use it privately, should it be banned here;).
 
This is absolutely absurd. Twitter is a useful source of info. Why make our lives worse? Should we not import oil from the Middle East because we don't like the leaders?

I understand that there're a lot of things outside our control, a lot of people work for corporates they hate, hell, I can't stand Ratcliff or the Glazers but still love United, however, if we can do something we should. We can't just give up completely. In this instance I don't view this as a big sacrifice, I'm sure we'll find an alternative for transfer news in time.
 
I strongly disagree with the sentiment it’s a “Nazi run platform”, as much of a bellend as the owner is. So I say keep it as long as it’s still providing useful information. If it’s not then lose it. Though I don’t have any strong opinions on X as such, I’ve never actually used it personally, I only ever see it when tweets are linked.
 
You could get it elsewhere though?

Are we trading off the toxicity against ease of access to football stats or news updates?

Maybe. There is the argument that linking to the site promotes musk, even if its a news piece of transfer rumour that is not toxic itself. But twitter is going to remain the biggest platform for news regardless of what we do. If no one is engaging with the decent accounts, whether that is political commentary or football journalists, then eventually the only people involved with that global conversation will be the extremists.

I guess I see it more as ceding control to the far right, rather than promoting musk, but I can see why people think the other way.
 
I strongly disagree with the sentiment it’s a “Nazi run platform”, as much of a bellend as the owner is. So I say keep it as long as it’s still providing useful information. If it’s not then lose it. Though I don’t have any strong opinions on X as such, I’ve never actually used it personally, I only ever see it when tweets are linked.
What's the ratio of useful information to made up bs on x though? Can hardly be 50/50.
 
There was a tweet posted in the Garnacho thread yesterday which literally said “there was a meeting earlier with Chelsea* and agents. Something happened”.

How will we cope without this kind of update?

* think it was Chelsea, can’t be arsed checking.

This one? Absolutely essential "info": "Garnacho concrete possibility, Chelsea are really really considering making a bid. Value is £60m. Chelsea could make a bid in next hours or days, let’s see."

Really really considering :eek:
 
Very much opposed to a ban. If people don't want to post or click on twitter links that's their choice and i support their right to not do so.

Equally I support the right of others to use what is still a very relevant platform.Trying to enforce a ban on others is a different matter entirely.
This is private and moderated site. We stop lots of things we seem toxic from being listed on here. Others can still use it. Like with people we ban for racism or hate speech. We're not stopping them from being racist, just not allowing it on here.

The idea behind removing X from here is that Musk is using it as a propaganda vehicle so we just won't be aiding him or allowing it on here. X would still be alive and well for people who wish to use it.
 
I voted No because many organizations and journalists still share valuable information on different events, conflicts and wars around the world.

I understand the argument that you could directly link to a particular media article but Twitter is useful for direct communication from people involved and their personal insights.

If the ban goes through, then I suspect it would impact many CE threads. If the majority is OK with that, then it is what it is.
 
Maybe. There is the argument that linking to the site promotes musk, even if its a news piece of transfer rumour that is not toxic itself. But twitter is going to remain the biggest platform for news regardless of what we do. If no one is engaging with the decent accounts, whether that is political commentary or football journalists, then eventually the only people involved with that global conversation will be the extremists.

I guess I see it more as ceding control to the far right, rather than promoting musk, but I can see why people think the other way.
Every boycott starts somewhere. Lots of users have deleted their accounts. If the site bans it and other sites do the same it will surely help with it's demise. The internet is a dynamic landscape, things can change quickly.
 
Hypernormalisation thread will be practically dead, which is the biggest tragedy of banning x
One day off twitter and you're signing off your posts with a kiss. Proof that ditching it makes better people. x
 
I voted No because many organizations and journalists still share valuable information on different events, conflicts and wars around the world.

I understand the argument that you could directly link to a particular media article but Twitter is useful for direct communication from people involved and their personal insights.

If the ban goes through, then I suspect it would impact many CE threads. If the majority is OK with that, then it is what it is.
It will definitely have an impact. Some threads will suffer, but some are not discussions at all and the lack of Twitter may fix that.
 
Would the ban encompass embedding + regular links + screenshots?

I'd suggest embedding removed, if someone still using X sees a tweet which links to an article then they can just post that article instead. If there is nothing like that and it's a personal anecdote, for example a Palestinian speaking about something that's happened, I think a screenshot would be okay, but that's probably something we would need to manage if/when removal happens as it would require good faith of the poster.
 
Personally I think if we're serious we should remove the letter x from the alphabet.

Extra time world become eggstra time, or ekstra time. If you say them fast enough it's fine. We can have a thread to settle on the new spellings.
 
This one? Absolutely essential "info": "Garnacho concrete possibility, Chelsea are really really considering making a bid. Value is £60m. Chelsea could make a bid in next hours or days, let’s see."

Really really considering :eek:

It was worse than that, not sure if it’s been deleted/edited maybe but it was literally what I wrote earlier; the actual quote was “something happened in the meeting”, with no attempt to even say what the something was.
 
Personally I think if we're serious we should remove the letter x from the alphabet.

Extra time world become eggstra time, or ekstra time. If you say them fast enough it's fine. We can have a thread to settle on the new spellings.
That's marksism.
 
There are more blue tickers on here than I thought.
 
I can't stand Musk, but X is still a good platform and nothing else compares at the moment. Bluesky is just turning into a bit of a left-wing echo chamber which isn't particularly helpful.

I would keep it for now, personally. It's not really difficult to just follow the people you are interested in and ignore the rest. Most of the big football writers still use it, for example.

There is definitely an element of the slightly liberal "must ban things I don't like" to this... and that generally backfires, look at who was just elected president. :(
 
@moses has been itching for a way to stop the daily “rate my penis” tweets i send him. how convenient he can hide behind musk.
 
I am all for banning it but am curious how the transfer tweets are going to work. That's what keeps muppets like myself's juices flowing.
 
I'd suggest embedding removed, if someone still using X sees a tweet which links to an article then they can just post that article instead. If there is nothing like that and it's a personal anecdote, for example a Palestinian speaking about something that's happened, I think a screenshot would be okay, but that's probably something we would need to manage if/when removal happens as it would require good faith of the poster.

Thanks.
 
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