Proposal to ban X.com links

[POLL] Should we ban Twitter embedding from this site?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes - but only if we have Bluesky embedding

  • Undecided


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The funny thing is I'm sure they think they made an awesome gotcha argument :lol:
 
If I'll be honest, I don't think much of a debate can be had about this here and no argument will be made which is going convince the admins not to go ahead with the proposal. As I see it, simply the fact that there is a poll already means the ban has been decided by the mods and this is just testing the waters to see how well it will be received before proceeding with it. It's sad but I guess that's the way of the Caf for a while now. Twitter is a platform which existed before Musk and it's easy to have a very sane experience there if only you follow the right people (and make use of the handy 'block' option if necessary).

Anyway, if I'm going by the OP,
Is it necessary for this site to function to have information being sourced by a Nazi run platform?
the idea is banning sourcing any information whatsoever from a platform belonging to Musk, so, just to understand, does that also mean censoring discussion/lauding of Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, xAI and anything he has founded and/or he runs or is the ban restricted to X only? One thing about boycotts is that they generally tend to have a tint of hypocrisy. Fair play if this has been properly thought through and will be carried out coherently.
That is an interesting mountain range that you have built out of a molehill.

I think that you have missed that the original post was from a poster and not a staff member. A similar thread was started in the newbie.

We have also been discussing integration Bluesky for many months, not neccesarily as a Twitter replacement.

When we saw how many people posted asking for us to stop using Twitter we let Niall know and he and the admins had a discussion. The upshot was this poll so we can gauge sentiment to assist us in making a decision.

It is worth noting that to integrate Bluesky we first need to do non-trivial server upgrades that won't happen quickly.

So the options are,
  1. No change (for now at least)
  2. Get rid of Twitter embedding without Bluesky
  3. Get rid of Twitter embedding when Bluesky is integrated
I'm sure there other minor sub-options as well.

Options #2 and #3 will have at least temporary impact which will be considered.

So no. No decision has been taken. And debate is encouraged and will not be ignored.
 
No one is suggesting that you can't discuss Twitter/X so of course discussions about Tesla , SpaceX etc will still be allowed. Talking about themdoesn't directly benifit Musk, embedding tweets on the site does as it counts as traffic and drives people to the platform. There's a big difference.
Agreed.
 
That's me done with this site. A clueless gesture by Musk but not actually a Nazi salute and the ideologically bankrupt left leaning people jump on that. Central Europe is in tatters after the left. Just any opinion that isn't left isn't allowed on the aptly named RedCafe. I'm far from far-right, some of these Republican views are ludicrous but these holier than thou left virtue signalers are the worst of the lot. I will now log out for the last time.
By the way, he's already logged back on (or tried to) since this post.
 
And to think folk say Nazi is yet another word the left have semantically bleached. This place just gets worse and worse as a far left hell hole. So much for just wanting to chat about football. :rolleyes:
I've slept on it and you can get in the bin too.
 
Nah they're right, we are setting up a special taskforce which will hunt down every users social media presence. When we sniff that one of you is still using X despite it being banned on the caf you'll be getting canned.
He's making a list, he's checking it twice, he's gonna find out if you support the Reich
 
Can we start collecting a list of the journalists we care about, what tier they're in and if they're on X/Bluesky/both and then use that as a starting point?
 
Fascism? Nah mate it doesn’t bother me, as long as I get my football tweets! Priorities. :rolleyes:
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"at least the football's on"
 
Surprised 30% say no.

Weirdos.

Having to interact with the general public every now and then I'm not surprised at all.

The fact this site has left leaning morals is probably half the reason I use it so much. It's overtaken all other forms of social media I used to use as it's not a cesspit of negativity and hate (if you avoid the football forums)
 
I'm glad the vote is closer, while I agree with the sentiments around Musk, I think it would be a real loss to the forum if we can't post tweets. 95% of all football traffic flows through X - particularly in relation to transfers.

Is there perhaps a Xenforo addon that can effectively embed them via a screenshot or something, to avoid driving traffic their way?
 
I'm glad the vote is closer, while I agree with the sentiments around Musk, I think it would be a real loss to the forum if we can't post tweets. 95% of all football traffic flows through X - particularly in relation to transfers.

Is there perhaps a Xenforo addon that can effectively embed them via a screenshot or something, to avoid driving traffic their way?

How much of an inconvenience is it really? Surely not so much that supporting a fascist is worthwhile?
 
How much of an inconvenience is it really? Surely not so much that supporting a fascist is worthwhile?

Obviously it's not a major inconvenience, but it would detract from the forum in my view. The transfer forum would suffer the most - I mean, there's an entire section of the forum at the top of each page called 'Transfer Tweets' so it's pretty integral.

I think we'll just end up with all the usual transfer threads being clogged up by people trying to explain where they've seen a particular story or whatever. A lot of the newspaper websites like the Telegraph are all behind paywalls now, but a tweet can often get over the critical points. I know it can be bypassed pretty easily, but still.
 
I'm glad the vote is closer, while I agree with the sentiments around Musk, I think it would be a real loss to the forum if we can't post tweets. 95% of all football traffic flows through X - particularly in relation to transfers.

Is there perhaps a Xenforo addon that can effectively embed them via a screenshot or something, to avoid driving traffic their way?
And of that 95% it's probably true to say that 95% of it is complete BS
 
And of that 95% it's probably true to say that 95% of it is complete BS

Actually, I've regularly found the Caf a good way of seeing mostly decent tweets while cutting out a lot of the rubbish ones. It's often my go-to place for updates on a transfer or managerial sack watch situation (just as an example).

That's why I think it would be a mistake to ban it - I do understand the concern but I don't necessarily think that using X means you're a supporter of Musk. It's not quite that black and white.
 
I'll never not find it puzzling that grown ass men are so invested in transfer muppetry.
 
Totally unrelated, but 30.3% is very close to the amount of votes the Nazis got on the Reichstag.
 
Actually, I've regularly found the Caf a good way of seeing mostly decent tweets while cutting out a lot of the rubbish ones. It's often my go-to place for updates on a transfer or managerial sack watch situation (just as an example).

That's why I think it would be a mistake to ban it - I do understand the concern but I don't necessarily think that using X means you're a supporter of Musk. It's not quite that black and white.
I don't disagree with that, never used it personally because I have no interest in rumours or sack watches, I just find the embeds annoying!
 
I think what /r/reddevils done was the right way. screenshots only
 
I voted no - personally I've taken a step back from twitter due to the toxicity and elevation of views that do not align to my own. That said, I still see it as the best place to get football news / content from, so keeping the function is quite useful and unless there's a viable alternative (I've not looked into bluesky) then it becomes harder work for those sharing news information.

A lot of the embedded tweets actually allow me to see what's happening without having to do the scrolling myself, which is quite useful.
 
I voted no - personally I've taken a step back from twitter due to the toxicity and elevation of views that do not align to my own. That said, I still see it as the best place to get football news / content from, so keeping the function is quite useful and unless there's a viable alternative (I've not looked into bluesky) then it becomes harder work for those sharing news information.

A lot of the embedded tweets actually allow me to see what's happening without having to do the scrolling myself, which is quite useful.
But is it really too much to ask a poster to put in some work if he/she thinks it's worthy of a post and is going to put us all through the work of reading it?

Anything posted here is viewed by a large amount of people (depending on topic from a dozen to thousands?), it doesn't need to be effortless to do so.
 
I hope more people move over to Blue Sky.

I was building my following list up the last few days and some of the main people I follow barely post on there currently which is frustrating as I'd switch over immediately if it was more active.
 
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