Even if that bug persists in the final code (which is unlikely) it's only a glitch that matters playing against the computer. Does anyone even do that any more?
Pro Evolution Soccer 2011
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I thought at the start of the video he said issues? That was just a 10min video of him going on about the same bug.
I do. However, what kind of feckin' loser is actually going to attempt that? You may as well play a two player match by yourself.
It matters if online is gay, like it has been for 3 years, and you don't have many friends who play football games.
It's not about attempting it to exploit the bug, but the knowledge that whenever you spread play to the flanks, even though the cpu will send some dolls to run along with you you know in the back of your mind there's no real threat of them tackling you.
What's wrong with the online? I thought it had been sorted last year?
So basically, it's about cheating yourself.
Not cheating though is it? Or are you saying you'll ignore the flanks and go through the middle all the time? There comes a point when you want to vary your play, try to be Giggsy on the wing, only to know that there's no challenge there awaiting you?
You will also profit from it, even when you don't actually do it consciously, by playing the ball to the wing when the midfield is too congested, have a short run, pinging it back into midfield having advanced further up the pitch... and I guess we should stop crossing, since you know you got into that position without actually being challenged anyway.
It's a shit bug and if it's not fixed, a shit game.
lulz.
I am saying that it wouldn't enter my head to use that gay bullshit to my advantage. Which is where the "cheating" part enters the equation.
This is obviously moot, regardless, because we don't know whether it is going to be in the final game, or not.
It sounds like you have already made up your mind, anyway.
Care to elaborate? I've been with Fifa for the last 3 titles and I like to play Online quite a lot.
I am saying that it wouldn't enter my head to use that gay bullshit to my advantage. Which is where the "cheating" part enters the equation.
You will though, through no fault of your own as said above.
It's moot though, because I've just read some pes-guy on twitter said they're aware of the problem and it is/will be fixed.
I haven't played a PES game since the PS2, and since I am probably going to buy this, I would also like to know why the online play is "gay."
I've only played a handful games without annoying lag. I played, or tried, about 50 games. Then I gave up and complained on some gaming forums with the rest of the nerds.
I've been following this game on some dutch football game forums, and even part of the pes fanatics (the ones who care about online... some enjoy cpu matches) are saying they'll hold off until they know whether online's acceptable.
EDIT: I was talking about pes 2010. But stupid as I am (every year I fall for that hentai watching cnut seabass' bullshit: "we worked on the online part", "this is just a demo, and old code", "wow this year we did this and that") I have both pes 2008 and 2009 as well with the same fecking problems. I lived in a fecking dorm as well back then with 100 mbit connection and even got lag playing someone 200 miles away from me.
For those who haven't watched it and who can be patient, I advise you to watch this video.It's all about the legendary D'Alessandro ( a player I'll surely buy in the ML).Some of the manual long passing is jizz worthy
Nice passes and shots. The same 2 skills being shown over and over again (especially that, 'hurk like a one legged ninja taking a shit, then release'
) gets tiring though. And some of those stepovers look like half kung fu kicks, so high and wooden.Someone on a dutch gaming forum has the game. Jog bug is still present.
Link?
Edit: Wait I don't know what the feck I was thinking I can't speak Dutch. Will they be able to patch it?
That's the question isn't it. I'm holding off buying this. If online works, I'll buy it anyway, but I'm not playing the cpu.
Also reported a bug which was funnier: only happened to him once so far, but during a freekick, referee went to stand in the wall.
It's a really really really minor, rather inconsequential bug though isn't it really?...Couldn't give a toss...I'm more surprised how liberal everyones criticism's been of the turning circle/360 dribbling...which is diabolical, and the real reason I'm unsure whether to buy it..
I have the leaked ps3 version and the jog bug is indeed present... Didn't really notice until now though because I always sprint
* Just tried on highest difficulty, sometimes the jog bug happens, sometimes not.
* Just tried on highest difficulty, sometimes the jog bug happens, sometimes not.
I have the leaked ps3 version and the jog bug is indeed present... Didn't really notice until now though because I always sprint
* Just tried on highest difficulty, sometimes the jog bug happens, sometimes not.
How is the general gameplay though?
I like it a lot, had this and Fifa 11 a couple of days now and barely touched Fifa. I have played every PES since the medieval times though so guess I'm a PES fan but I think it's a lot better than PES 2010. I especially like the passing, the shooting is a bit different from previous years when it comes to power but you soon are able to hit belters after some gametime. I obviously haven't tried it online but that is supposed to be improved. Squads are dated but being PES it will be user updated by people after a while. I think PES fans will like it.
I used to love PES before it turned shit and then I started buying Fifa but I want to go back to PES and the Master league thing. Do you still start off in the master league with shit made up players and progress by building up a better squad of real ones?
You can start with a fake squad or the real squad. I usually pick a midtable team with the real squad and then try to add young talented players when I play Master League.
That's exactly why i'm going back to PES. I love the Master League.
Whens it actually out?
081010.
I played the demo and thought it was dogshit. It felt like the players were gliding about on ice, the passing and dribbling were atrocious aswell. I only played one half because it pissed me off so much. Disappointing as I used to love PES.
I'm off work this week and have been playing the full version some more on my mate's hacked PS3. The gameplay is good enough, I'm getting used to the shooting and it feels fantastic when Scholes fires a long shot into the top right of the goal. Player likenesses are spot-on, absoutely brilliant although the animations are not impressive - and on the odd occassion in replays a player's foot will dissapear after shooting the ball (i.e. the animation takes the foot under the grass, if that makes sense?). This is just a minor gripe though.
The 'Edit Mode' is superb, best on a PES game yet bar none. We had lots of fun creating a Liverpool kit and also the stadium creator is awesome.
The sound and atmosphere is a joke, there is a made up Solksjaer song when you play as United and it's funny at best. But PES/WE games have never been about atmospheric, realistic sounds and crows noises. Graphics are very good, grass textures are lovely, I just wish that Konami would leave those horrible PS One looking banners out of the game, completely ruins the feel and look of the stadia with cartoon-like posters hanging up.
The official Premiership teams are Spurs and United so we played against each other using these two teams and had a really enjoyable few games but wasn't blown away by any stretch of the imagination. One big gripe for me and also my friend mentioned it (who is the biggest PES fanboi you'll ever meet) and it was the fact that it doesn't feel like a high tempo, exciting Premier League showdown between Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur. It looked and felt much more like a lower league tie between two crap Dutch teams. This is a big thing for me as I really want to play a Premier League campaign with United.
I didn't play any of the Master League or online, it was just friendly matches against my friend and a few against the CPU. Locally the game is lots of fun but I don't know if I could stick playing against the CPU for too long. I don't think this will be an issue though because most people play online these days. The "jog bug" IS still there and it's very annoying, it completely ruins the game for me as I usually enjoy the Master League mode and can't see myself buying this unless it's fixed with a patch.
Overall it's the best "next gen" PES yet but that was always going to be the case after releasing dross for the last few years. PES "fanbois" will love it but will ultimately see the flaws after a good few hours play - online needs to be addressed after the last few attempts as well, I don't think anyone wants to experience the lagfests of the last few releases.
As a package I'm not too sure about paying top whack for it. If you don't like the demo then DO NOT buy this, it's not going to impress you. Get that other game instead
The 'Edit Mode' is superb, best on a PES game yet bar none. We had lots of fun creating a Liverpool kit and also the stadium creator is awesome.
The sound and atmosphere is a joke, there is a made up Solksjaer song when you play as United and it's funny at best. But PES/WE games have never been about atmospheric, realistic sounds and crows noises. Graphics are very good, grass textures are lovely, I just wish that Konami would leave those horrible PS One looking banners out of the game, completely ruins the feel and look of the stadia with cartoon-like posters hanging up.
The official Premiership teams are Spurs and United so we played against each other using these two teams and had a really enjoyable few games but wasn't blown away by any stretch of the imagination. One big gripe for me and also my friend mentioned it (who is the biggest PES fanboi you'll ever meet) and it was the fact that it doesn't feel like a high tempo, exciting Premier League showdown between Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur. It looked and felt much more like a lower league tie between two crap Dutch teams. This is a big thing for me as I really want to play a Premier League campaign with United.
I didn't play any of the Master League or online, it was just friendly matches against my friend and a few against the CPU. Locally the game is lots of fun but I don't know if I could stick playing against the CPU for too long. I don't think this will be an issue though because most people play online these days. The "jog bug" IS still there and it's very annoying, it completely ruins the game for me as I usually enjoy the Master League mode and can't see myself buying this unless it's fixed with a patch.
Overall it's the best "next gen" PES yet but that was always going to be the case after releasing dross for the last few years. PES "fanbois" will love it but will ultimately see the flaws after a good few hours play - online needs to be addressed after the last few attempts as well, I don't think anyone wants to experience the lagfests of the last few releases.
As a package I'm not too sure about paying top whack for it. If you don't like the demo then DO NOT buy this, it's not going to impress you. Get that other game instead
Plan M did you try changing the game speed in system settings? It speeds up the game a fair bit if you put it on +2. Its a fair analyse of the game, it's not perfect but I still like the gameplay better than Fifa. The leaked ps3 version is apparently a leaked promo disc sent to reviewers so the jog bug might be gone in the final retail version.
No I didn't change game speed mate, didn't realise you could to be honest - I'm am having a few beers with him tomorrow so we'll try it!
It plays a good game of footy, you are right. I just can't stop going back to the FIFA 11 demo afterwards and realising that PES isn't as realistic or smooth.
Each to their own though
It plays a good game of footy, you are right. I just can't stop going back to the FIFA 11 demo afterwards and realising that PES isn't as realistic or smooth.
Each to their own though
I've only played a handful games without annoying lag. I played, or tried, about 50 games. Then I gave up and complained on some gaming forums with the rest of the nerds.
I've been following this game on some dutch football game forums, and even part of the pes fanatics (the ones who care about online... some enjoy cpu matches) are saying they'll hold off until they know whether online's acceptable.
EDIT: I was talking about pes 2010. But stupid as I am (every year I fall for that hentai watching cnut seabass' bullshit: "we worked on the online part", "this is just a demo, and old code", "wow this year we did this and that") I have both pes 2008 and 2009 as well with the same fecking problems. I lived in a fecking dorm as well back then with 100 mbit connection and even got lag playing someone 200 miles away from me.
The last 2 PES have worked perfectly online if you use an actual cat 5 cable and not connect wirelessly. This is annoying but it works 100%
Has it been reviewed yet?
Yes. 89% in PSM3. They gave FIFA11 91%.
News: PES 2011 review - 89% in PSM3 - ComputerAndVideoGames.com
Henry is still at Barcelona and Gallas still at Arsenal
Apparantly there's a transfer patch released on October 25th.
Apparantly there's a transfer patch released on October 25th.
When PES 2011 (Xbox 360) arrived last Saturday morning I knew it was going to be a good sporting day. Five hours later this feeling was confirmed as Lee Barnard scored Southampton's first goal for about 10 years (or so) and victory was secured at Hillsborough. But if the Saints winning was a surprise it was nothing compared to PES 2011. Konami have only gone and transformed PES into FIFA.
Ok, let me clarify this. We're not talking licenses or innovative online multiplayer – PES is as far behind the FIFA curve here as normal – but rather the action on the pitch. Where once PES was fluid, fast and frantic it now plays at sedate FIFA-speed. Remember the days of bursting through the middle or down the wing with Adriano and co? Not any more. PES is now much more realistic but – whisper it – maybe not as much fun. Well, at least not initially anyway. Thank the sporting gods then for the adjustable speed option. Here you can adjust the speed from the FIFA-speed standard "0" to arcade crazy "2". More relevant is "1" which feels like the PES speed of old. Or you could be a masochist and play at "-2" and recreate the action of hungover veterans down on Hackney Marshes.
The speed is one thing but the real change is in the passing and feel of the game. A new power bar is a big improvement and makes a massive change the game. For example the traditionally effective use of the through ball has lost its power. Now you really need to direct the ball to the player you want rather than lazily stabbing at the button. By varying the pace you can create a unique pass into space rather than the more scripted ones of older PES games. The general freedom now given to your general passing will take some getting used to but it soon becomes unthinkable to go back.
The changes do take some getting used to though. This was struck home in the first game I played. England vs Sweden on professional – a nice easy way to start I thought. A feeling confirmed when I scored with my first move of the game. I sent a lovely dinked through ball to Rooney who placed it beautifully into the bottom corner. Easy? Not so. The next 44 mins of the half were spent under the cosh as I somehow kept it at 1-0. The rearguard action didn't hold though and I ended up losing 2-1. One thing quickly became clear - the old PES tactics of relying on pace and tricks just don't cut it any more. Hardcore PES fans may need to relearn the game. Luckily then an overhauled strategy section will help.
The strategy and tactical play has been massively improved. Players can be dragged and dropped into exact positions Football Manager-style and there is a huge amount of tactical flexibility available.
What else then? The graphics - especially the player likenesses – are fabulous. PES has never looked better. The physical side of the game is well depicted too with jostling defenders often pushing you off the ball or guiding you to the corner. The keepers seem to parry far too much though. I have been playing on professional and a high percentage of my goals have come via rebounds off keeper parries.
The only – and I mean only – downer of getting PES 2011 two weeks before release is that there is no-one online. This means for now I can't comment on lag or how the new Master League online functions work in reality. Hopefully this situation will have changed in time for this Friday's review embargo (my review will be live then).
Early days then but offline at least I've been impressed by PES 2011 – this is certainly more of a revolution than evolution. The flexibility around strategy, game speed and passing are a big step forward. To me it feels like PES has been let off the leash. Newer players may struggle but there looks like being a huge amount of depth to the action. I haven't played the new FIFA yet but PES 2011 is certainly back in the game. My review will be up on Friday.
What about you then? Will PES win out for you? Or has FIFA now won your football heart?
Ok, let me clarify this. We're not talking licenses or innovative online multiplayer – PES is as far behind the FIFA curve here as normal – but rather the action on the pitch. Where once PES was fluid, fast and frantic it now plays at sedate FIFA-speed. Remember the days of bursting through the middle or down the wing with Adriano and co? Not any more. PES is now much more realistic but – whisper it – maybe not as much fun. Well, at least not initially anyway. Thank the sporting gods then for the adjustable speed option. Here you can adjust the speed from the FIFA-speed standard "0" to arcade crazy "2". More relevant is "1" which feels like the PES speed of old. Or you could be a masochist and play at "-2" and recreate the action of hungover veterans down on Hackney Marshes.
The speed is one thing but the real change is in the passing and feel of the game. A new power bar is a big improvement and makes a massive change the game. For example the traditionally effective use of the through ball has lost its power. Now you really need to direct the ball to the player you want rather than lazily stabbing at the button. By varying the pace you can create a unique pass into space rather than the more scripted ones of older PES games. The general freedom now given to your general passing will take some getting used to but it soon becomes unthinkable to go back.
The changes do take some getting used to though. This was struck home in the first game I played. England vs Sweden on professional – a nice easy way to start I thought. A feeling confirmed when I scored with my first move of the game. I sent a lovely dinked through ball to Rooney who placed it beautifully into the bottom corner. Easy? Not so. The next 44 mins of the half were spent under the cosh as I somehow kept it at 1-0. The rearguard action didn't hold though and I ended up losing 2-1. One thing quickly became clear - the old PES tactics of relying on pace and tricks just don't cut it any more. Hardcore PES fans may need to relearn the game. Luckily then an overhauled strategy section will help.
The strategy and tactical play has been massively improved. Players can be dragged and dropped into exact positions Football Manager-style and there is a huge amount of tactical flexibility available.
What else then? The graphics - especially the player likenesses – are fabulous. PES has never looked better. The physical side of the game is well depicted too with jostling defenders often pushing you off the ball or guiding you to the corner. The keepers seem to parry far too much though. I have been playing on professional and a high percentage of my goals have come via rebounds off keeper parries.
The only – and I mean only – downer of getting PES 2011 two weeks before release is that there is no-one online. This means for now I can't comment on lag or how the new Master League online functions work in reality. Hopefully this situation will have changed in time for this Friday's review embargo (my review will be live then).
Early days then but offline at least I've been impressed by PES 2011 – this is certainly more of a revolution than evolution. The flexibility around strategy, game speed and passing are a big step forward. To me it feels like PES has been let off the leash. Newer players may struggle but there looks like being a huge amount of depth to the action. I haven't played the new FIFA yet but PES 2011 is certainly back in the game. My review will be up on Friday.
What about you then? Will PES win out for you? Or has FIFA now won your football heart?
PES 4Life
I liked the game speed of the demo.
Henry is still at Barcelona and Gallas still at Arsenal
Apparantly there's a transfer patch released on October 25th.
Same as last year. New patch will solve all this
Amen Blunder!