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Manchester United 1:1 Chelsea

Post-match discussion


Sun, 03 November 2024

Think Gary Neville summed it up during commentary. The players make a decision what to do when they receive the ball at their feet rather than having a set out plan to follow. This is indicative of ETH's set up but several of our players are not particularly adept or have the footballing IQ to make this work. It's maverick at best.

I hope with Amorim he sets out the groundwork tactically so our players have a sense of what part of the field is theirs and what their jobs are. Feels like we guess every game and that's why we have moments where we look like we could win and then instantly get pegged back and look like a side from the National League could teach us a thing or two.
 
Yes i agree, but i said he was in contention. No idea where deer in headlights came from today. Won it regularly and played some lovely passes, its no coincidence casemiro looks reborn next to him

Sorry, edited the post. Feel like he gets caught out sometimes, that's all.
 
600 million spent

most are just not good enough . Need a decent striker zirkzee & Hojlund nowhere near good enough.
 
Proper intermediate standard of football. Direct all time and rely on 2nd balls to fall in our favour to create any type of attack.

I just pray the new coach can do something with this lot.
 
We have some decent players and we will do well with a good head coach.
But damn... Garnacho and Zirkzee, they need some than a little good coaching.
 
Some of you do know that we have an interim manager and the clubs a bit upside down at the moment?

The expectations here are odd at times. We aren’t doing too well, hence Amorim coming in. If we were doing well then Ten Hag would still be here.

Chelsea should be coming and giving it to us today under the circumstances. They didn’t and we could have easily won.
 
A draw at home to our direct competition for top 4 is not a good result.

If the aspiration is mid table finish, then yeah, a draw is a good result.
 
We could've won it if Garnacho or Bruno showed some composure. Draw probably the fair result in the end.

Happy for Ruud, hopefully he atleast ends his interim period undefeated.

It probably goes to show that it doesn't matter who the Manager/Coach is, our attackers are shit in terms of converting chances or creating them for themselves. Amorim can't really change that either so we still need to replace Rashford, Antony and get a striker that will score enough if given the ball or chances laid on for him.
 
Fair result in a tight match. Lots of mistakes on both sides, but no one had much time on the ball. Rashford was putting in a defensive shift today, but Garnacho. Man, he was annoying to watch. Casemiro doing good stuff in the midfield and Bruno was ok as well. Ugarte though with a real stinker. Rasmus runs and works, but he is still not getting set up right. Onana with a couple of bad decisions today. Defense was doing good and Mazraoui was spectacular. Amad, Lindelof and Zirkzee did´nt bring much, but neither was bad. We really missed Eriksen to unlock the Chelsea defense today, and to keep us in possession.
 
A draw at home to our direct competition for top 4 is not a good result.

If the aspiration is mid table finish, then yeah, a draw is a good result.

It's not a disaster. We're in between managers and we are still "only" 6 points off 4th. It's obviously a big ask at this point but it's not impossible.

Desperately need to get a run of wins though. Leicester and Ipswich next. Anything less than 6 points and I'll be gutted.
 
Probably could've won with a bit more quality but it doesn't help when the squad is depleted. There wasn't much to work with from the bench other than Amad. Zirkzee was poor again after coming on and we had to finish with Lindelof in midfield.

I'll take the point, hopefully we can follow up with two wins against PAOK and Leicester.
 
Didnt see the game but a draw vs Chelsea is a good result considering where we are.
 
We have dreadful attacking players
We went from Ronaldo, Cavani, Greenwood and Martial to just Hojlund. We’ve allowed too much quality to leave and not replaced it. Then we added Zirkzee, which looks an inspired move…
 
You know the players have played badly when the fans blame the Ref all the time.
1-1 flattered us, chances were about even.
When you have one striker who gets one touch in the penalty area in 80mins and another with the skill of Bambi on ice, you have problems.
Rashford, wide from 2 yrds, Garnacho trying to dribble the ball into the net
Bruno can't send in a corner or keep a ball below the bar.

But yeah it was the Ref's fault for not giving us a free kick near the halfway line.
 
Referee the highlight of the game again.
Its really their show isn't it?

2 shit teams going at it, 1-1
 
Its the best we could do without any decent attacking players. This is what Ruud meant when asked if we had a good squad and he said we have to get the best out of the players we have or something along those lines. You cant win sht without some star attackers. I think they tried though. Even Rashford tried but they are just miles off.
 
real lack of quality in that game

performances like that from Garnacho are to be expected at his age.

Thought Bruno improved a lot, Ugarte's passing is pish.

Just all a bit poor - tactics lacking

We really need a few back from injury

Mazraoui MOTM
 
Can Amorim show Garnacho how to pass?

Not a bad point considering where we're coming from. If Ruud wins his other 2 he's done brilliantly.
It’s quite odd isn’t it. He picked out Bruno at the end there, but missed Amad completely when he is in perfect position for a chip or any pass through to him. I called for him to be taken off for amad, I’d rather rashford stay on cause today Garnacho was so off it.
Is there a more selfish player around than Garnacho?
:/ seems like he’s gotta be one of a front 2
Bruno is gash. My god he's so wasteful
Why can’t management say he can’t take free kicks? How many times has he hit the wall. It’s insane how many chances we have given up
Annoying. We had more than enough chances to win this. We need to be more clinical.
Yep, been the story for some time. Amorim has to put confidence back into these players.
Zirkzee just not upto PL speed
Not sure that’s what it is. Hes shitting bricks out there, as we say in the states. He’s super nervous.
What does Zirkzee bring to the game?

Garnacho regressing so much in one season.
Zirkzee as I said above is completely nervous, you can tell. Shys away from the ball, small simple mistakes. Signs of a player who doesn’t feel confident. Amorim got his work cut out but it’s possible.

Garnacho needed to be subbed out around the 60th. It was clear how off it he was
 
Considering how shite we are id have been happy with a point before kickoff
 
I'm happy as i expected a defeat but fortunately Chelsea had a really bad day. About us, i had a feeling we wouldn't score a goal even if we played 5262272626 minutes. What a poor set of attackers we have. Not a single creative one. Rashford is absolutely useless, Garnacho too, and honestly Zirkzee is a total disaster. The guy is so slow as a summer traffic jam, has no idea about one on one situations and has no idea where the goal is. Amad is just an average winger. Honestly, i see only Hojlund who should be kept as he at least has potential, all the others should be replaced. The defense was okay. Amorim has a tough job for sure.
 
Chelsea better side but thought we matched them and considering where we are that’s not a bad thing and I think they’ll be up there this season.

Defensively we looked good and Mazraoui especially was great, did ok in CM, final 3rd was awful
 
We were good today! If a certain bald Dutch man was still in charge we'd have lost that by 4 goals. It's nice to go into games knowing we might get a positive result instead of knowing we won't win.
Yes mate, agreed. It's a good point but I'm disappointed with it. Ruud got a very good chance to have a brilliant 4 game spell here.
 
Draw was a fair result but disappointed to not win after taking the lead, it was a pretty unfortunate goal to concede. Martinez was excellent today, my MOTM.
 
Garnacho isn't regressing, he's an inconsistent young winger. He can be extremely poor but he does keep going even when he has a bad game. Where his ceiling is I've no idea but inconsistent performances are to be expected of a 20 year old winger.
Exactly, he's probably our biggest threat at the moment so has to play, when in reality he should be coming on for a really good player and starting occasionally. Playing all the time might fast track his development, but he's going to play poorly now and again.

There was somebody saying he doesn't have confidence in the front three. Two are young players who shouldn't really be starting anyway, the third has always been patchy and was awful last season in particular.
 
Good point and a fair result I'd say. Take out the penalty and Chelsea created bit more (and it felt like that during the game) but there wasn't much between the teams. Garnacho had to bury that big chance and same could be said for Bruno perhaps.



Beat PAOK and Leicester and it'd be fine job done by Ruud.
 
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You know the players have played badly when the fans blame the Ref all the time.
1-1 flattered us, chances were about even.
When you have one striker who gets one touch in the penalty area in 80mins and another with the skill of Bambi on ice, you have problems.
Rashford, wide from 2 yrds, Garnacho trying to dribble the ball into the net
Bruno can't send in a corner or keep a ball below the bar.

But yeah it was the Ref's fault for not giving us a free kick near the halfway line.
Making excuses is weak I agree. But I find it annoying when people only focus on the big decisions or VAR. Constant small ref decisions like not giving a yellow or a foul on the half way really affects momentum. The amount of games where we get fouled 3/4 times only to receive the first yellow is infuriating.
 
600 million spent

most are just not good enough . Need a decent striker zirkzee & Hojlund nowhere near good enough.
Started from the old structure deferring complete transfer autonomy to ETH to hide the fact they didn't have a clue either. There are smaller clubs that wouldn't sanction more than 100m on some of these players combined
 

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