Back pain haha. Backcelona more like.
Philippe Coutinho
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Seems more like a pain in the arse.
More like a not coming back injury
Totally agree with you on this. If/when he does go I would hope we would not look to replace him but rather we went to a 4-2-3-1 with Firmino dropping in to the no. 10 with Salah and Mane either side of him and go after a more prolific striker. Actually think we would probably be better of that way anyway.
Cute. You know you wont buy anyone because your owners are drying up your spending, so you come up with a plan how youll actually be better without Coutinho. Can't expect less from a L'pool supporter. RAWK at its finest
Cute. You know you wont buy anyone because your owners are drying up your spending, so you come up with a plan how youll actually be better without Coutinho. Can't expect less from a L'pool supporter. RAWK at its finest
And your obviously just an idiot. I have said the same thing before on here. Yes I think we would miss him, but I do not think he would be as big a loss as many seem to think. However he wont be sold this window so the discussion is pointless. On another note I do not and have never gone anywhere near RAWK. I also don't slag off other teams or players just because I'm a Liverpool fan and must hate the likes of Utd or Everton. I'm not a sheep
I think he'd be just as hard to get as Klopp really likes him and sees him as an important player for his system. I do think he'd be a fine option for Barca, though.
Don't think a lot of people realise just how much he does for us. Although some won't believe me but I would rather lose Coutinho than Firmino
If Liverpool don't sell and Barca move on to other targets, it will be interesting see how Coutinho responds to a foreseeable future with Liverpool. He probably won't be very pleased, putting it mildly.
Scenes when he stays and they still crash out of the CL group stage and later fail to finish in the top four.
I'll be really surprised if they don't take the money. They need better players elsewhere to progress (proper midfielders and defenders) and no team is going to offer this sort of money for Coutinho again. They've got Barca in a desperate situation and if they reject the money, I can't see Barcelona coming back (I think they'll just set their sights elsewhere). What may happen though is that Coutinho will still be pissed off and look to join City or some other side later for way less than the money currently touted.
I'll be really surprised if they don't take the money. They need better players elsewhere to progress (proper midfielders and defenders) and no team is going to offer this sort of money for Coutinho again. They've got Barca in a desperate situation and if they reject the money, I can't see Barcelona coming back (I think they'll just set their sights elsewhere). What may happen though is that Coutinho will still be pissed off and look to join City or some other side later for way less than the money currently touted.
No need for that mate.
Probably not, but stories about his poor attitude or possibility of striking all come from Spain. The lad himself has not said anything on the subject. He said he would only leave if a deal could be done amicably. Only time will tell.
It has been reported a fair few times that we don't need their money and we don't need to sell in order to buy. We shall find out soon enough I suppose
@Red Devil Rising out of posts for the rest of the day so can't add new reply.
You can't be so naive as to think it's a genuine back injury keeping him out?
Not at all. I believe he wants to go and that Liverpool have no intentions on selling him. I believe he had a slight problem with his back but with all that's going on I would not be surprised if we don't see him again until after the window is closed
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I agree! I'd rather have Firmino at United than Coutinho even though he's an excellent player himself.
You can't be so naive as to think it's a genuine back injury keeping him out?
Yup, Coutinho is the creative one, but Firmino (and Lallana) is (are) essential to what Klopp's tactics thrive on and actually make the team tick – pressing high up the pitch to retain the ball as soon as possible. The five (or was it three) second rule if I recall it correctly. Basically; if you can't retain the ball in x amount of seconds: the gegenpress is over as its true purpose is immediate ball retention.
I thought you would have been all over Iheanacho. Player with potential but cheap and out of favour - thought klopp would have loved that. If Leicester keep mahrez and he doesn't sulk I reckon iheanacho will get quite a few.
£150m? What?
I had a look at Liverpool's squad a moment ago, was amazed at how thin it is. I don't think they can afford to lose him, just from a quality perspective. They have Mane, Firmino, Lallana, Coutinho and Salah (if he turns out well) providing all the attacking talent in both midfield and up front. After that its people like Sturridge or Origi. To lose one of those 5, especially when Lallana is out til November at least, would be a huge blow. Particularly since I doubt Liverpool could find a replacement as good.
Especially after losing Figo to Real Madrid due to exactly this.
Will the annual revenue loss for the 2018/2019 season be greater than 125m if Liverpool don't make top 4 this season? From what I remember, our losses where around 30m for missing out.
So even if Coutinho might be the difference for making top 4, it is still worth it to sell him for the money on offer. Liverpool have done very well to raise the price but keeping him makes very little sense at this point. I also don't really believe he is the difference between top 4 and missing out.
So even if Coutinho might be the difference for making top 4, it is still worth it to sell him for the money on offer. Liverpool have done very well to raise the price but keeping him makes very little sense at this point. I also don't really believe he is the difference between top 4 and missing out.
Imagine spending that sort of money on Coutinho, Barca should be thanking them for rejecting it.
I think it'll turn out best for us if Barca walk away. Liverpool will be left with a very unhappy player and not a big pot of cash
Are Liverpool crazy? It would serve them right should Barcelona bring their warchest elsewhere. I get the impression that half the board want to sell but the other half want another £10-20m extra before sanctioning the sale. That £118m offer would make Coutinho far and away the second-most expensive player ever. It's madness.
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Neymar as the most expensive player ever can be easily explained (he'd probably be the best player in the world in 3 years anyway).
Are Liverpool crazy? It would serve them right should Barcelona bring their warchest elsewhere. I get the impression that half the board want to sell but the other half want another £10-20m extra before sanctioning the sale. That £118m offer would make Countinho far and away the second-most expensive player ever. It's madness.
Coutinho the 2nd most expensive player ever?
They were nowhere near good enough with him in the team, imagine him still at Liverpool miserable and wanting out, bring it on I say.
FSG are money men, first and foremost. They don't give two shits about Liverpool or Coutinho. To put it in perspective, that ~£120m bid today is about half of what FSG paid to purchase the entirety of Liverpool FC. The whole fecking club. This fact won't be lost on them either. They paid ~£8m for Coutinho and got a good innings out of him. Selling him for ~£120m profit within four seasons is great business by them, whatever way you look at it.
I'll be absolutely amazed if he remains there beyond 31st August. Barcelona's next bid should get the ball rolling.
I'll be absolutely amazed if he remains there beyond 31st August. Barcelona's next bid should get the ball rolling.
Coutinho is underrated on here. He's the only player in the Liverpool squad who has the ability to run a game and whom possesses that star quality that only the top players have. Without him, our possession average has lessened heavily and we've become far more direct in the two games we've played thus far.
If we could have got VVD, Draxler/Ox and Keita in then I'd sell him - and I think the club would have too. But those deals are highly unlikely and as I've maintained all along - it's too late to sell now.
As for sulking next season - well it's a World Cup year. He'd fall back into line by the first week of September.
If we could have got VVD, Draxler/Ox and Keita in then I'd sell him - and I think the club would have too. But those deals are highly unlikely and as I've maintained all along - it's too late to sell now.
As for sulking next season - well it's a World Cup year. He'd fall back into line by the first week of September.
£150m? What?
Well instead of getting rejected each and every time, come in with a bid they can easily afford and Liverpool probably won't turn down.
How are they rejecting that?!!!
Will serve them right if he is nowhere near as good this season, so his value will drop like a stone. Then the big clubs come in for Mane next season and let's see how loyal Mane is to Liverpool.
Liverpool might give in at £130 million (142m euro).
No matter the final resolution, the longer this goes on - the better.
Says who?
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