Philippe Coutinho

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Ballague again siding with Liverpool over the lying "Catalan press" he usually jumps on board with.

He's always so far up Liverpool's arse it's unbelievable. Lanzini would be a great replacement but instead they'll be stupidly stubborn and be a player short until the end of August. Hopefully costs them even more points.
 
Where do you get that?
Lanzini doesn´t even come close to Gylfi´s stats.. And he played for a much better team.

Gylfi played 38 games, score 9 goals, assisted 13, 59 key passes, 72 chances created. A score at Squawka of 1095.
Lanzini played 35 games, scored 8, assisted 2, 54 key passes, 56 chances created. A Squawka score of 973..

So if Gylfi isn´t good enough Lanzini sure as hell isn´t.. But I really hope that Liverpool will have no choice when the window closes.

Don't really care about stats. Besides, Gylfi takes all the set pieces.

Watching them, it's clear Lanzini has that something about him. It's like when Liverpool signed Coutinho. You had loads on here mocking the signing when it was obvious he was talented.
 
If he really, really wants to go, then I'm inclined to agree with you. It's just that I don't see Lanzini or Sigurdsson as someone that could get get even near to replace what he gives our team. And from the VVD and Keita sagas it seems clear, that we have a very difficult time signing good players, and for us to then sell our best one would be suicide imo. We needed to upgrade our entire squad to be able to compete in both the league and CL and that hasn't happened.
We would be an injury to Mané away from having to field a quite ordinary team
Yeah I think it's pretty obvious he wants to go, It's Barca, same with u and Ronaldo you just have to accept it would happen.

You're getting a serious amount of money, Imagine if you got offered 120m last year? everybody would of jumped at that i'm certain.

Yes it's going to be difficult to replace him, but there are a lot of good players who can give you something similar. We adapted when Ronaldo left, obviously not as well as we could have done but we still won the league. I think you'd be OK.
 
I am appreciating the Coutinho situation vs the Van Dijk situtation. Liverpool want it both ways.

And unfortunately players will drop everything and more to a Barcelona, but not a Liverpool
 
Where do you get that?
Lanzini doesn´t even come close to Gylfi´s stats.. And he played for a much better team.

Gylfi played 38 games, score 9 goals, assisted 13, 59 key passes, 72 chances created. A score at Squawka of 1095.
Lanzini played 35 games, scored 8, assisted 2, 54 key passes, 56 chances created. A Squawka score of 973..

So if Gylfi isn´t good enough Lanzini sure as hell isn´t.. But I really hope that Liverpool will have no choice when the window closes.

How boring. Let's compare Zidane's stats to gylfi's as well while we're at it.

Lanzini clearly has something about him.

Gylfi has an accurate delivery and good set piece ability and that's about where it ends with him. He is one of the first you'd peg to look out of place if the playing style or tactical demands aren't tailored to him.
 
Don't really care about stats. Besides, Gylfi takes all the set pieces.

Watching them, it's clear Lanzini has that something about him. It's like when Liverpool signed Coutinho. You had loads on here mocking the signing when it was obvious he was talented.

Ok so you are basing this on gut feeling.
 
Is he out of the CL qualifier? Liverpool can send out a pretty strong message if they play him tonight.

Injured, but he can play now in the qualifiers now anyway without being cup-tied if he had been fit cant he?
 
Lanzini is the closest match to Coutinho that there is in the Premier League and he looks like the type who has a good deal of improvement in him, too. Lanzini and van Dijk (hypothetical, of course) for the same money as a Coutinho sale is good business for Liverpool considering their squad deficiencies.
 
This is boring now. Every time I see a post, I think something has happened.
Stop posting shite unless it's about the transfer.
 
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I would give him to 'em for free
Yes I would also give a hardworking home-grown lad (whom the managers seems to rate for some situations) to one of our most bitter rivals, for free as this should be how our club and fans treat and appreciate their players.
 
They clearly look devoid of ideas without coutinho, watched the game yesterday and their linking from midfield to attack suffered a lot without him and they were very lucky to win. Whoever they get in his replacement will be a downgrade atleast initially. Reoprts they want rakitic in the deal for coutinho, i think he will be a good signing, but then he has not been great at barca recently.
 
Lanzini is the most Coutinho player out there apart from the man himself. It'll be like buying a cheaper imitation, whether he can have the same top level is debatable.

I think he would be a decent signing for them though, offers very similar things. Won't shirk hard work either.
 
When Coutinho goes, it'll put Klopp's plan and the LFC strategy back at least a couple of seasons - they cannot compete even domestically without him. They won't replace him internally, and the market doesn't offer a suitable fill in terms of type or ability level in my opinion - disregarding the additional time/effort it takes to integrate a new player. It will have been said before, but I wonder if there is potential for a 'one more season' compromise as SAF negotiated with Ronaldo. Admittedly it risks the window of opportunity for the player; if Barca fill the void with a Dembele or similar then Coutinho's move could be off. Otherwise, what is a contract actually worth? And how can the top EPL teams ever really protect themselves from getting torpedoed by the big European clubs - maybe they can't, unless sports contract legislation is reviewed in conjunction with governing bodies or buy-out clauses sky rocket beyond even the tolerance of middle eastern royal families... I fully expect LFC to be in a 'Brewster's Millions' predicament again whereby they have a huge kitty, days/hours before the deadline and only an Andy Carroll option to blow it on.
 
They have to let him go if he is that set on leaving. I understand the principles of signing a new contract argument but bottom line is if he misses this opportunity for his dream move he will stink out their dressing room all season and have a negative impact. I missed out on a transfer I wanted to a different department in work because my line manager didn't want to lose me and I lost all respect and appetite to work hard from then on. Whatever anyone says about it being world cup year etc he wont be the same player for liverpool if they block him.
 
Rivalry aside, it's still unpleasant to see how La Liga's big two can continue to screw over an English club. Coutinho has gone from a seemingly decent professional to a scumbag happily disrespecting his current club.

It's a lose/lose situation for Liverpool now, but obviously the better loss would be the one where they pick up £100m for giving in to Barca's 'no means yes'.
 
This mess is as much Liverpool's doing as anyone's. They'll have known Barcelona's - and Coutinho's - intentions since mid-to-late July. It's the middle of August now. If they end up without Coutinho and without an adequate replacement come the end of the window, Liverpool fans should be up in arms at FSG.
 
Rivalry aside, it's still unpleasant to see how La Liga's big two can continue to screw over an English club. Coutinho has gone from a seemingly decent professional to a scumbag happily disrespecting his current club.

It's a lose/lose situation for Liverpool now, but obviously the better loss would be the one where they pick up £100m for giving in to Barca's 'no means yes'.

It's great to see Barca doing their thing on Liverpool. I don't think any English club had any sympathy for us when we were getting royally fecked by Madrid for De Gea, so I for one would love any team being taken for a ride.
 
Coutinho is a good player, but I'm sorry if I missed it, when did he become one of the top 10 in the world?

Every LFC fan I've spoken to is genuinely arguing that he is as good as Neymar and warrants the same fee? He is infamously inconsistent in my opinion and will have 1 good game then 2 average ones.
 
It's great to see Barca doing their thing on Liverpool. I don't think any English club had any sympathy for us when we were getting royally fecked by Madrid for De Gea, so I for one would love any team being taken for a ride.

Agree 100%.
 
Not sure if this is new or old news:

Barcelona have reached an agreement with Liverpool to sign Philippe Coutinho after the Brazilian put pressure on the Premier League club to let him leave, sources close to the Catalan club told ESPN Deportes' Jordi Blanco.

Coutinho is set to join Barca for a base fee of €90 million (£81.6m), with bonuses that could bring the deal to €120m (£108.8m), as the Catalan club begin to spend the €222m they received from Paris Saint-Germain for Neymar last week.

A delegation from Barcelona headed up by chief executive Oscar Grau travelled to Liverpool on Monday night to finalise the negotiation, sources said.

The Brazilian midfielder told Liverpool earlier in the day that he wanted to leave and join Barcelona, sources close to the player have told ESPN Brasil.

Liverpool reportedly rejected a an €80m (£72m) offer from Barcelona last month, while manager Jurgen Klopp said last week that the Catalan side can "save their energy" in their pursuit of Coutinho, and sources close to the club were still telling ESPN FC on Tuesday morning the 25-year-old was not for sale.

But sources have now told ESPN Brasil and ESPN Deportes the deal is set to go through after the player spoke to Klopp about his desire to leave.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/socc...o-sell-philippe-coutinho-to-barcelona-sources
 
It's nightmarish for Liverpool coz WHU will rightly demand about 50m for Lanzini, this late in the window. And Lanzini is nowhere near as good, decent player but not that good.
 
Wow. I think something has to change for EPL clubs following Costa and Coutinho's conduct over the summer - this is not right.
How do you stop a player refusing to play? How do you stop a player being unhappy when his manager tells him he's not wanted?
 
Doubt he's said he refuses to play. Sounds like more Barcalona press related shit. This is what happens when you go down there:

1. You don't get paid
2. You don't train
3. You lose your world cup spot, or you turn up unfit / match-unready and you embarrass yourself and your country

Barca don't need to employ these tactics, they simply have to hand over £120m in cash (no add-ons) and he's their player. Simples.
 
It's nightmarish for Liverpool coz WHU will rightly demand about 50m for Lanzini, this late in the window. And Lanzini is nowhere near as good, decent player but not that good.
And I can only imagine what VVD would then cost, especially after the Watford shambles.
 
It's nightmarish for Liverpool coz WHU will rightly demand about 50m for Lanzini, this late in the window. And Lanzini is nowhere near as good, decent player but not that good.

He isn't as good, but in terms of playing style and how he operates in the team, they're very similar. If Liverpool can get Lanzini for a reasonable price (in this market £50m isn't that bad, especially as United were quoted similar prices for Perisic) then it'd be a decent signing for them.

They probably need a centre back more than a direct Coutinho replacement though.
 
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