Barca should make a 90m bid for Dembele instead of chasing Coutinho
Philippe Coutinho
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Seems barca are fine with madrid dominating again. Coutinho is not the level they want to return to: Saul, isco, thiago and verratti are barca level players-not coutinho. IMO he isn't even better than eriksen.
Barca should just for Coutinho and Dybala. United need to bid for Dembele (wishful thinking)
If they sign him would they play him in Neymar's role(assuming he is sold).
I personally think this is a classic by-product of familiarity breeding contempt. We see PL players warts and all and view them considerably differently to overseas stars.
Yes he really is. Coutinho is in the level of player below the Pogbas of this world.
So even by your reckoning he's not far better, just a level above.
Who gives a s&** - he's not leaving this summer.
I watch a lot of football. Coutinho isnt as good as these players who imo are the category of player barca should be targeting. Honestly, do you think coutinho is good enough to go toe-to-toe with modric? Vidal? Verratti? Because that's the level of foe barca wage war with
Coutinho is an extremely good footballer who is regularly the best player on the pitch in PL games. Modric became the revered footballer he is now when he joined Real not when he was with Spurs.
I'm not doubting your footballing viewing or knowledge. I'm simply suggesting that seeing players in the context of the English league lacks the same level of lustre and glamour as seeing far afield footballers being showcased in more fashionable settings (e.g. not Stoke).
I have no doubt that Coutinho would excel at Barca.
Fabulous player. Would start for most teams as a number 10. Wonderful to watch
He is a good player but, I have no idea where he would fit in Barca's 4-3-3.
Very inconsistent player.
Barca have made 80M€ offer for Coutinho.
It's obvious that if Barca go for him if it's because Neymar's going to PSG. You don't spend €80m on a sub. Especially if you are Barca who are currently having financial difficulties. So he'd be take Neymar's position ofc.
Really don't want him gone for that money and help Liverpool in Keita purchase. Yes he can score a screamer here and there and have a WC performance, but he is really inconsistent and you can't really build a team around him. I don't worry about Pool as long as he is their key player.
80 fecking million... And people still questioning Pogba's price
He is twice the player
80 fecking million... And people still questioning Pogba's price
He is twice the playerWhen he's good he is really good; but when he can't be bothered, hes average.
He wins a lot of points for Liverpool. A little scrote but won't deny he is a good player. So hopefully he fecks off.
So Klopp was saying that he hates the fact, Leipzig isn't selling them Keita even with their money (he said something with a car to show how it feels) and now they are doing the same with Coutinho?
I didn't realise Coutinho was younger than Neymar.
Very very inconsistent. Has the potential to be the or among the best player(s) of the Prem. His ability is immense, not sure if he's Barca ready yet. Reach Suarez' levels first, even he seems not good enough for them at times.
A level above counts as far better in my book.
Agreed with this but think he'll properly shine in the Barca setup.
Eriksen is better
Why would Eriksen want to drop down a level though?
Good player on his day but shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Iniesta.
I hope they get him. He bails that mob out far too often for my liking. They're more reliant on him than they realise.
Agreed. I don't think he's an incredible player but he seems to be the only one in their team that can win a match when they're playing poorly. It's worth 6-8 points a season in my opinion and replacing that would cost much more than the £72m on the table.
Also I'm unsure that Liverpool can offer the salary to attract a player with a similar contribution. Those kind of players will be looking for over £200k a week. So even at £120m they'd end up buying 3-4 players who fit their salary structure. They'd find themselves in a Spurs/Bale type situation.
Or if you believe the rumours that the Coutinho pursuit has only been about appeasing Neymar to have more Brasilians in the squad
Firstly, your book appears badly edited.
Secondly, in terms of last season (surely the most relevant evidence-base) there was nothing to suggest Pogba is far better than Coutinho.
Maybe getting drawn into these types of pissing contests between rival fans is a bit of a cul de sac.
Inter let him go for 12 million
I've thought he's been Pool's best player for years now, and I do think he'd thrive in La Liga. But paying over €80M...the state we're in...
He'd be great for Barcelona if his passing was better and he could play deeper. They could definitely use someone with his level of skill in midfield like Madrid have with kroos, Modric and co. But Coutinho is too Hollywood and too much of an attacker for that. They couldn't possibly play him and MSN all in attack at once.
Agree. He doesn't blow as hot and cold as he used to. Liverpool still do as a collective, but he's certainly increased his productivity.
People keep talking about the Barcelona level, but there aren't any Iniesta or xavi's in the world, they're unique players who were exceptionally good. Coutinho is a very good player and could fit in behind MSN.
Neymar going from Barcelona to PSG would be a seriously weird transfer. And from Neymar to Coutinho would be a hilariously big drop in quality.
To be fair, Coutinho is an excellent player with room to grow. Their attack will be fine with a front 3, even if they had Messi with two lesser players than Suarez and Neymar they'd still have a dangerous attack. There is a big gap between Coutinho and Neymar but he would be very good player for them.
Oh Puhlease. Last season Pogba performed far better than Coutinho who spent 4 months asleep after injury. And don't get me started on the previous years as footballers....If Coutinho was in Pogba's league he'd have been at a Juve, Barca, Bayern or Real ages ago and would still be there.
Right now Coutinho needs to stay where he can develop into a consistent World class player. Rather than merely possessing world class talent. At Barca currently he'd just suffer Fabregas' fate there. He'd never be a regular and when they get bored of him he might never regain his former stature again. Klopp is right to keep him and I hope the lad seed its in his best interests. If he ever leaves a Liverpool, he should leave as a superstar guranteed to be a starter in his new destination ala Bale and CR7.
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Depends where they play him through. His best position is in one of the front three. If they play him as an Iniesta replacement I'm less convinced. He's staying at Liverpool though because even if Barca offer €90 million we won't replace him and we will be weaker whichever way you look at it.
Yet Barca are looking to part with huge money to buy him. Wonder why?
Seriously you can come up with lot of arguments, this one is very weak. Barca parted with money for lot of average players or players who aren't very good.
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