Hopefully Liverpool are kept sweating up until the last minute of the transfer window, they deserve all the shit they get after the way they tap up Southampton players and hound the club
Philippe Coutinho
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If Barcelona don't get him this summer they may drop interest altogether.
Next summer is a World Cup year and you a
Usually get 2-3 new stand out players that establish themselves over the course of the tournament. It's these players that the top teams fight tooth and nail to sign and Barcelona will be right in the mix.
Coutinho can't afford to assume that Barcelona will wait for him. In the great words of Elvis "it's now or never".
Next summer is a World Cup year and you a
Usually get 2-3 new stand out players that establish themselves over the course of the tournament. It's these players that the top teams fight tooth and nail to sign and Barcelona will be right in the mix.
Coutinho can't afford to assume that Barcelona will wait for him. In the great words of Elvis "it's now or never".
If Liverpool get an offer in line with what's being reported then they should bite Barcas arm off.
No doubt he's a gifted player and on his day definitely the difference but if you look back over the seasons his M.O seems to be a period of top drawer form interrupted by injury and then a complete loss of form.
No doubt he's a gifted player and on his day definitely the difference but if you look back over the seasons his M.O seems to be a period of top drawer form interrupted by injury and then a complete loss of form.
I'd rather see him stay there than see Liverpool get a ~£120m cash injection upon which they could really strengthen their team in areas desperately needed. A player like Lanzini, for example, would be a great replacement for him in Klopp's system at a fraction of the price, leaving lots of funds available to improve the defence and central midfield.
In saying that, seeing the Liverpool fans' meltdown if he's sold would be a sight to behold, too.
In saying that, seeing the Liverpool fans' meltdown if he's sold would be a sight to behold, too.
Do not see why Liverpool will sell him even fro 120m. You cannot get even fecking Keita (who is nowhere as good) for 80m nowadays. With those money you can either panic buy one or two inferior players, or stockpile the money.
Liverpool should keep him.
If Coutinho moves to Barca, I'll bet money on Liverpool getting relegated this season
The lanzini comparison is a good one imo. Very similar players.
I'd snap barcas hand off, very good player, but inconsistency is being overlooked because of the ' excitement' factor. I'd be interested to see how he'd do at Barca.
Coutinho doesn't have a buy out clause in his contract and given Neymar has left Barca it's a bit of a daft thing to say also.
Neymar got his move in the end and knows the club, so i guess he could be valuable to Coutinho. Same for Suarez, maybe Coutinho should bite someone next?
Maybe Coutinho doesn't want to leave, so until he says he does to suggest he needs any help to do so is pretty irrelevant and pointless.
As great as Coutinho is, there is litterally no chance in hell they get relegatedIf Coutinho moves to Barca, I'll bet money on Liverpool getting relegated this season
No chance they'll get relegated with or without Coutinho. I mean Mane is arguably more influential than Coutinho.
I find that hard to believe.
There's no way Liverpool will sell Big Phil unless he does a VVD / Payet and downs tools.
Doesn't have to be a direct replacement, they could use the money to strengthen a number of areas instead.
Hoping he goes though as there's a chance they'll waste the money on shite.
It's not that easy. Lanzini has 3 more years on his contract and with the way the transfer market is, they won't get anywhere near him unless they pay 50m. The 70m they're left with doesn't seem enough to get either Keita or VVD.
120m is not what it used to be.
Which areas exactly? They couldn't get VVD for 70m in the first place.
Money isn't a problem for Liverpool. They clearly have enough money considering that they were willing to spend 150m on VVD and Naby Keita.
Fair comments and thankfully a well thought out post.
Erm that's debatable but we agree that any claim that Liverpool get relegated is ridiculous.
I'm possibly underating him but I don't think he's that level, for a 100mill or whatevers being reported, they'd be getting a great deal, he's not Sanchez/(inform) Hazard level productive? Maybe he is, I try my best to watch as little of Liverpool as possible.
With how bonkers the market has gone with the Neymar deal I'd be doing everything I could to persuade him to stay if I were Liverpool, rejecting any and every offer that came in for him. Even with the upper-end figures being quoted (£100m-£120m), that'd probably get them one decent replacement with a little left over.
They've not really addressed any of the issues they had with their squad last season, so the last thing they want to be doing is selling a key player in a wildly fluctuating market. Last season they could have got 3 or 4 decent players for £120m, now they'd be looking at spending £80m-£100m on Keita and still be left wondering how to plug the gaps elsewhere.
Anyone doing business between now and the end of August is likely to get a bit of a raw deal because everyone's looking at £200m for Neymar and upping the asking price for their players. £75m for Lukaku looks steep to many, but when Kyle Walker is going for £45m, and even Jordan Pickford for £25m, the market is clearly hugely inflated.
The issue isn't so much whether Coutinho is a £100m player, it's how able they'll be to replace him should he leave. I think the answer to the latter is, "not very."
I don't think he's going to be there for too much longer, but I reckon they could get another season or two out of him before he leaves for pastures new.
They've not really addressed any of the issues they had with their squad last season, so the last thing they want to be doing is selling a key player in a wildly fluctuating market. Last season they could have got 3 or 4 decent players for £120m, now they'd be looking at spending £80m-£100m on Keita and still be left wondering how to plug the gaps elsewhere.
Anyone doing business between now and the end of August is likely to get a bit of a raw deal because everyone's looking at £200m for Neymar and upping the asking price for their players. £75m for Lukaku looks steep to many, but when Kyle Walker is going for £45m, and even Jordan Pickford for £25m, the market is clearly hugely inflated.
The issue isn't so much whether Coutinho is a £100m player, it's how able they'll be to replace him should he leave. I think the answer to the latter is, "not very."
I don't think he's going to be there for too much longer, but I reckon they could get another season or two out of him before he leaves for pastures new.
Bad move for Barca. Great for Liverpool if they can reinvest the 100m+ they get for him in the right players.
Hazard will most likely cost around 200m, and even then, I doubt that Chelsea would sell.
Coutinho is no Hazard, but he is a great player. Liverpool seem to have around 150m to spend this season without selling him, and finding top players is becoming increasingly difficult (Sigurdseen costs more than 50m, VVD more than 70m, Keita more than 80m). There is no reason why Liverpool should sell, especially considering that Coutinho is on a lengthy contract and the world cup is next year so he's gonna play out of his skin anyway.
Reinvesting the money is easier said than done. Already the Keita and VVD moves have fallen through.
They'll have to overpay if they want to get a top tier player in. Similar to Juventus overpaying for Higuain due to the Pogba money. Spending it all on one top class player (even if overpriced) is better than doing a Spurs (or Liverpool after Suarez) and buying three or four average players.
I agree that Coutinho is sort of on the rung below the Hazards and Sanchez of the league, but what is a £100m player now? People said £80m for Ronaldo, £85m for Bale, and £89m for Pogba was excessive, yet here we are with PSG having spent over twice those amounts on Neymar. At the start of the window people would have laughed at the idea of a club spending £100m on most players, but now you've got a £200m player, and clubs are just pointing at him whenever someone comes knocking for one of their players.
There's always the issue of how important he is for Liverpool too. He may not sign for Barca and be a key player, but he is just that for Liverpool, and they're going to struggle to replace him when they're potentially going to be forking out upwards of £140m on Keita and van Dijk (not that I think they're signing either), with the squad still needing new players.
I always remember Spurs chasing Phil Neville a few years ago towards the end of his Everton days, and offering £1m or something around that figure. On paper, you had a European chasing club trying to sign a guy in his 30s from an upper-mid-table club as nothing more than a squad player for a season or two before he retired. In most instances you'd have looked at the fee and gone, "fair enough," but as it was, Neville was a key player for Everton, as well as being their captain. At the time, Phil Neville probably wasn't worth any more than a couple of million, but Everton were unlikely to accept an offer unless it was reasonably substantial, such was his importance to the team. The figures are obviously wildly different now, but Liverpool find themselves in a somewhat similar situation with Coutinho. He's more important to them than his sale value.
So would you want to be top dog at Liverpool or benched sometimes at Barca?
If he wants to play in the World Cup, he'll stay at Liverpool.
If he wants to play in the World Cup, he'll stay at Liverpool.
Let's not kid ourselves here: Coutinho is good enough to play regularly for Barcelona. Is he a once-in-a-generation talent alá Iniesta and Neymar (two positions he can play - no.8 and no.10) - no, he's not, and there's no shame in that. But he'd flourish in La Liga and would be a good asset to their squad, for his talent and versatility alone.
I think he'll stay, have a decent season/World Cup and then we'll sell next summer.
I agree completely. It'd be madness to sell one of our best players at this stage of the window.
They'll be able to buy at least 3 Southampton players with that...
He should stay at Liverpool and tell Barcelona to do one.
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Oh dear... Typical Liverpool fan. Love your optimism. It's cute, just like the boom bust cycle. Warms my heart
Oh dear... Typical Liverpool fan. Love your optimism. It's cute, just like the boom bust cycle. Warms my heart
Speaking of cycles why don't you get on your bike and come back when you have something interesting to say.
Ryan Giggs can donate 11 premier league medals to Liverpools first team and still have 2 of his own.
Come on , Ed , bid on this one and also for Mane , come on !
No thanks!
I think he would thrive at Barcelona, and I'd be quite happy to see him leaving Liverpool.
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