Eventual replacement for Terry ?
Phil Jones | Exit Speculation
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That's what people were saying a few years ago for England!
Won't happen in a million years but I'd take a chance.
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Heard Arsenal needs another injury prone CB... but this time he's not even getting injured that much.
Fingers crossed for him to keep it up.
Fingers crossed for him to keep it up.
Personally, I do not believe we can get any money for him if we sell him.
Any manager who buys him (and if Jones then proceeds to get injured), will be laughed at by the fans of that club and accused of being reckless with their transfer money.
The only way I think we can get rid of this guy before his contract expires is if we let him go on a free.
Loaning him out might be a good idea because we can at least get a rival club to pay a percentage of his wages...until he gets injured and is then returned back to us.
Unfortunately, P.Jones just is not built for football. At a such a young age, to be struggling with injuries cannot be nice for anybody.
Any manager who buys him (and if Jones then proceeds to get injured), will be laughed at by the fans of that club and accused of being reckless with their transfer money.
The only way I think we can get rid of this guy before his contract expires is if we let him go on a free.
Loaning him out might be a good idea because we can at least get a rival club to pay a percentage of his wages...until he gets injured and is then returned back to us.
Unfortunately, P.Jones just is not built for football. At a such a young age, to be struggling with injuries cannot be nice for anybody.
Poor fella actually had something like thrombosis or blood clots last year, aged 23. Like wtf. That's why he missed a very big chunk of the season, it sounded very strange and it was definitely not a normal injury.
I seriously suspect he's got a shiteload of Neanderthal genes or something, I remember when he hit the scene as a teenager, he was so incredibly strong and big and athletic, I remember thinking I had very rarely seen something like it. He definitely is a very talented player and it really is a shame he hasn't developed, because the train has to go on, with or without him.
Maybe doc @Pogue Mahone can shine a light on my weird Neanderthal gene theory.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...al-dna-may-increase-risk-allergies-depression
"Akey and Capra joined forces and searched for more than 6000 Neandertal haplotypes in genetic data from 28,416 adults of European ancestry. After pinpointing chunks of DNA inherited from Neandertals, the team used statistical analysis to link possession of these archaic variants to a higher risk of the diseases or other traits captured in the billing data, Capra says.
The search netted a dozen Neandertal genes likely to cause significant risk of disease today. For example, one gene variant apparently makes blood more sticky and prone to coagulate. This fast clotting may have spelled the difference between life and death when Neandertals hunted dangerous animals or hemorrhaged after birthing big-brained babies. But it can also increase the risk of blood clots and strokes, which would have been much less common in prehistoric times when most people died young."
I seriously suspect he's got a shiteload of Neanderthal genes or something, I remember when he hit the scene as a teenager, he was so incredibly strong and big and athletic, I remember thinking I had very rarely seen something like it. He definitely is a very talented player and it really is a shame he hasn't developed, because the train has to go on, with or without him.
Maybe doc @Pogue Mahone can shine a light on my weird Neanderthal gene theory.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...al-dna-may-increase-risk-allergies-depression
"Akey and Capra joined forces and searched for more than 6000 Neandertal haplotypes in genetic data from 28,416 adults of European ancestry. After pinpointing chunks of DNA inherited from Neandertals, the team used statistical analysis to link possession of these archaic variants to a higher risk of the diseases or other traits captured in the billing data, Capra says.
The search netted a dozen Neandertal genes likely to cause significant risk of disease today. For example, one gene variant apparently makes blood more sticky and prone to coagulate. This fast clotting may have spelled the difference between life and death when Neandertals hunted dangerous animals or hemorrhaged after birthing big-brained babies. But it can also increase the risk of blood clots and strokes, which would have been much less common in prehistoric times when most people died young."
Jones playing midfield would be one of the many problems facing the national team.
That is all heart right there. But he shouldn't be getting himself into situations like that in the first place.
SAF played him there for United and Capello did for England. He can't be that crap on the ball
If we're letting him go surely we're getting a new CB?
As if he's valued at £20-£25m. He's another we'll struggle to offload because of his ridiculous wages.
I really like him but injuries have been terrible for him. Such a shame.
Surely even Arsenal wouldn't be silly enough to send us a tonne of cash for him.
Easily Fergie's most ludicrous quote ever.
He could have just said Jones had huge potential to be a really big player for us. But to be as good or better than our best ever was incredible.
He's a waste of time and money. If a bid close to 15-20m comes in for him then we should bite their hand off.
Great?
Did you watch a lot of West Brom games?
I note this happens quite a lot. Our games are so massively analysed, that all flaws are escalated. Then the player goes to a piddly club with very moderate expectations, which they can meet easily. Added to that fans barely watch that team play, and all of a sudden the player's form is hyped up.
When you think that this is the start of his 6th (!!) season, and he still hasn't come close to cementing a place, you have got to admit defeat eventually.
We constantly kept Anderson on to seemingly farcical levels, and we're doing similar with Jones.
I remember being impressed by his early performances for us, he would burst forward from defense and go on driving runs. Its a shame how it has ended up for him. If Arsenal buy him I would laugh, we already ripped them off with Welbeck.
Fascinating theory. News to me though.
To be fair, Capello frequently used Heskey and gave a cap to Jay Bothroyd.
Fergie played Rafael and Park over Pogba, which was a factor in us losing Pogba for virtually nothing.
Jones could do a job in midfield as a destroyer for game or two, but it's akin to playing Smith in the Keane role.
The point is... Jones is gash and needs a fresh start elsewhere.
Didn't he get their player of the year award, and now Pulis and co are saying there's interest in him from Arsenal, can't have been too shit then.
Pointless player, he's not progressed at all from the age of 19, he was a talented kid but that lack of progression has meant what was talented as a kid, is pretty damn useless as seasoned pro.
Get rid.
Get rid.
A lot of the same comments being thrown around Jones were the same before Smalling actually came good last season.
Jones still has a bit of time to overcome his injuries and be successful. He just shouldn't be counted on as a first team regular.
Jones still has a bit of time to overcome his injuries and be successful. He just shouldn't be counted on as a first team regular.
On a serious note, I like him, hope he stays.
One of the few on reasonable wages. £50k/w I think; I mean reasonable for United.
I think he can do well. I want to see what Jose can do for him in terms of training and guidance. If we want to sell him, do it next season. Of course if Fonte comes in then I am ok with him going. We would then have 4 CB and TFM as an additional CB.
Sell him and promote Tuanzebe/buy Fonte
Let's sell him to Arsenal. Wenger loves a "bargain".
The article says its over £100k
I believe he's on 80k
all buying clubs waiting for the last day of transfer windows to pick up cheap deals. they are not desperate like arsenal
Weird how people are angry at him for being injured. Him in that Madrid game was great to watch!
when was that again?
Well am I imagining things or did he start in midfield against Madrid and was really good?
We have to get him out of the treatment room first.
I am no medical expert but it is not beyond the realm of possibilities that he overcomes his injury issues as he grows older. I have no doubt that he can be a fantastic player if he does, and so I see no reason to hurry to sell him as yet.
Would be sad to see him go, but with Bailly, Blind and Smalling all ahead of him in the pecking order, then if he wants game time, in order to progress, then he needs to leave.
It'll be a shame, though. Would have loved to see what he would have progressed into without injuries.
I remember he and Smalling looking solid together for a few games either last season or season before. Van Gaal even went against his philosophy of playing a right and left footed player at the back because they looked so good.
Guess it werent meant to be. That said, if he does get a move, then hopefully he can stay fit and push on from there, because in my opinion, he has bags of ability.
If he stays, then hopefully he gets game time every now and then. Still would like to see him in that holding role. He was superb there for us a few seasons ago.
It'll be a shame, though. Would have loved to see what he would have progressed into without injuries.
I remember he and Smalling looking solid together for a few games either last season or season before. Van Gaal even went against his philosophy of playing a right and left footed player at the back because they looked so good.
Guess it werent meant to be. That said, if he does get a move, then hopefully he can stay fit and push on from there, because in my opinion, he has bags of ability.
If he stays, then hopefully he gets game time every now and then. Still would like to see him in that holding role. He was superb there for us a few seasons ago.
Hopefully Rojo gets off loaded before Jones but it's sad as the guy hasn't lived up to early billing. Maybe a loan spell would suit best and it will give us and him the opportunity to see what's what.
Jones playing midfield would be one of the many problems facing the national team.
That is all heart right there. But he shouldn't be getting himself into situations like that in the first place.
This looks like a Fifa 14 animation glitch.
I'm in the same boat myself, I think the potential rewards are too big for us to cut him loose right now so I would rather see how he does this season - he is good enough to have another shot.
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