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Pep Guardiola agrees contract with Bayern
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Maybe interesting - the contract was signed by Guardiola prior to Xmas... (stated by his agent...)
Nope, that's for sure.
Pep's agent said they signed the contract before Christmas so impressive work keeping a lid on it this long.
From FCB to FCB, nice. I'm not a big fan of Bayern, they are, after all, a bit like the RM of Germany. But there's much better structure and talent all the way through their youth system. I think it ticks the box on introducing his philosophy to a football mad country/culture that is replete with talent. The one aspect I'm not sure Pep is prepared for is how meddlesome former players/legends from the club can be at Bayern. Lineker's tweet earlier in the day was spot on, IMO - just ask Klinsmann.
Bayern has a ton of talent and a great academy, Pep has plenty to work with.
Him leaving the Barcelona cocoon was always going to be difficult to gauge what he'd seek outside of it but perhaps now that path seems more clear. If we're to believe he'll stay only 3 or 4 seasons, Premiership might make sense afterwards. But more to the point, I gotta believe he has his eyes on either United or Arsenal - I mean, why else would he turn down Chelsea & City? Throw in SAF's meeting in NY with Pep and maybe, just maybe, his vision was laid out.
Nope, Pep's agent already shot that rumour down. Luis Milla has been rumoured but that strikes me as a bad fit.
And it's wrong.
bayern are a superb club looking from the outside. financially healthy, fantastic ground, superb talent, great board and ownership, great talent level, the ability to spend, great country....everything is in place for a gaffer to be happy and successful.
pep should thrive there.
pep should thrive there.
given bayern's resources, relative dominance domestically, and their recent CL performances of the last 3 years, i think this is an accurate assessment.
Furthermore not being a german or more importantly, a bayern legend, he won't have the cover of that if he 'fails'.
Orobitg (agent Guardiola): "Contract was signed before Christmas. We made it public because otherwise the speculation would go on."
Orobitg (agent Guardiola): "Bayern didn't offer the most money. Pep chose them because of the structure and the players they have."
Josep Maria Orobitg (agent Guardiola): "Former Real Madrid player Raul will be Guardiola's assistant at Bayern? No, that is not true."
Klinsmann... - I goes he was the by Bayern most unloved player - maybe after Ballack...
- a mercenary who always went there where he got the most money...
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Bayern did the two most important signings prior to Xmas - Müller to 2017 and Guardiola.
Orobitg (agent Guardiola): "Bayern didn't offer the most money. Pep chose them because of the structure and the players they have."
Josep Maria Orobitg (agent Guardiola): "Former Real Madrid player Raul will be Guardiola's assistant at Bayern? No, that is not true."
Klinsmann... - I goes he was the by Bayern most unloved player - maybe after Ballack...
- a mercenary who always went there where he got the most money...---------
Bayern did the two most important signings prior to Xmas - Müller to 2017 and Guardiola.
Hardly a challenge for Pep is it. Taking over what is probably the best team in Europe whilst having the resources to strengthen further.
The Lineker tweet is very true. Bayern are known as FC Hollywood in Germany.
How good will Müller become under Pep, eh? Gotta say that prospect does intrigue me as his progress seems to have stalled.
The bigger curiosity for me will who will become the pivote in his system, will it be the hogrider, Gustavo, Kroos or someone else?
The bigger curiosity for me will who will become the pivote in his system, will it be the hogrider, Gustavo, Kroos or someone else?
Fair play shows hes not interested by city or chelseas money. If hes going to manage anyone here its us or arsenal
Müller is playing an excellent season, I think next to Riebery he has been their most important player in offense this season.
Former Bayern Munich, Manchester United and England midfielder Owen Hargreaves talking about Pep Guardiola:
"I think it is a smart move from Guardiola. Not many clubs have the stability and structure of Bayern, he saw the success of the club and its facilities, he has looked at all aspects and rightly thought it was the best destination for him.
"It is a team whose talents lie in the offensive third and in a way, it is the perfect match.
"People can talk about merchandising but the most important thing is the product on the football pitch. Bayern have always delivered that.
"Bayern is easily among the top five clubs in the world, no matter how you rank them.
"Bayern are the Manchester United of Germany. They are the biggest clubs in their countries."
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Like how he slipped that last bit in. Good man Owen. Also:
German football expert Raphael Honigstein talking about Pep Guardiola's impending move to Bayern Munich:
"There was an element of opportunism in the deal as Guardiola made up his mind that he wanted to make a decision at Christmas. He didn't want to talk to clubs with incumbent managers, and that ruled out Manchester City.
"Chelsea and Bayern were the only firm offers and in the end it came down to non-financial details.
"It is a huge coup for Bayern and German football. Even Bayern's enemies within the German game will admit as much.
"The Bayern move should not be seen as Guardiola shutting the door on a move to England as if he had gone now it would have burned many bridges to other clubs."
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That last sentence is particularly interesting i think.
"I think it is a smart move from Guardiola. Not many clubs have the stability and structure of Bayern, he saw the success of the club and its facilities, he has looked at all aspects and rightly thought it was the best destination for him.
"It is a team whose talents lie in the offensive third and in a way, it is the perfect match.
"People can talk about merchandising but the most important thing is the product on the football pitch. Bayern have always delivered that.
"Bayern is easily among the top five clubs in the world, no matter how you rank them.
"Bayern are the Manchester United of Germany. They are the biggest clubs in their countries."
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Like how he slipped that last bit in. Good man Owen. Also:
German football expert Raphael Honigstein talking about Pep Guardiola's impending move to Bayern Munich:
"There was an element of opportunism in the deal as Guardiola made up his mind that he wanted to make a decision at Christmas. He didn't want to talk to clubs with incumbent managers, and that ruled out Manchester City.
"Chelsea and Bayern were the only firm offers and in the end it came down to non-financial details.
"It is a huge coup for Bayern and German football. Even Bayern's enemies within the German game will admit as much.
"The Bayern move should not be seen as Guardiola shutting the door on a move to England as if he had gone now it would have burned many bridges to other clubs."
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That last sentence is particularly interesting i think.
What a big boost that will be for Bundesliga. With their TV deal about to end in 14/15, I think we will see a significant improvement in that respect.
Definitely. By joining Chelsea or City we would not be an option and we certainly have much more appeal for a manager than those plastic clubs. If he has future ambitions of managing us then choosing Bayern was a no brainer.
I don't think it really means that he was avoiding joining Chelsea or City because of us, although admittedly that was my first thought.
If he went to Chelsea the Mourinho comparisons would be endless and if we know anything at all about Pep from his press conferences as Barca manager it is that he didn't like being compared with Mourinho. That and the sheer lack of stability at the club and the number of top class managers who have been sacked recently.
The City, United and Arsenal jobs are taken, Bayern makes total sense without the need for any implications about his desire to join us. It's a nice thought, but no.
If he went to Chelsea the Mourinho comparisons would be endless and if we know anything at all about Pep from his press conferences as Barca manager it is that he didn't like being compared with Mourinho. That and the sheer lack of stability at the club and the number of top class managers who have been sacked recently.
The City, United and Arsenal jobs are taken, Bayern makes total sense without the need for any implications about his desire to join us. It's a nice thought, but no.
In the last 5 years the Bundesliga has been the most competitive in Europe.
Bundesliga
No. of winners: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 2: 6
No. of different teams to finish in top 4: 9
Average points difference between 2nd and 4th: 8
Premier League
No. of winners: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 2: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 4: 6
Average points difference between 2nd and 4th: 12
La Liga
No. of winners: 2
No. of different teams to finish in top 2: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 4: 7
Average points difference between 2nd and 4th: 24
Klopp, Mourinho and Guardiola I reckon. Wenger's really the only other option for me and we'll see over the next couple of years whether Guardiola and Klopp really are in that class but I think so.
Very good move for BAyern and interesting to see what Pep is made off. Now it's the time to prove it although he takes over one of the strongest teams in Europe with plenty of talent.
You also have to respect Bayern for getting big players and good managers, running a super healthy club, great stadium, fair prices, etc
You also have to respect Bayern for getting big players and good managers, running a super healthy club, great stadium, fair prices, etc
Knew this was a chance of happening when Ballague said it was nonsense.
Where would you rate Fergie?
Mancini and the FSW must be so relieved at hearing this news
bet you Arjen Robben is booted out of Bayern
Javi Martinez
what is pep going to do with a donkey like gomez?
Bayern is usually very loyal to the players and extended Robben's contract half a year ago, I'm pretty sure he stays if he wants to. Pizarro, Van Buyten and Tymoshchuk are leaving this summer, imo. Their contracts run out at the end of the season and I can't see them staying as squad players under Pep. Maybe Bayern will buy another attacking player. Gomez and Mandzukic as strikers are probably the players who fit least into Pep's ideas out of Bayern's squad. We'll see.
Not sure sure about that, Robben may be used in a different way. Very interesting to see what Pep can do with this team.
Maybe. It will be interesting how Kroos will fare without Heynckes. Heynckes was the only one that got him into gear and recently even got him to run more. Hitzfeld and van Gaal did not. And he went into loan to avoid having to play under Hermann Gerland. Hermann Gerland was the "drill inspector" who gets the young ones into gear for the first team - Schweinsteiger, Lahm, Badstuber, Müller and a lot of others that went to other Bundesliga clubs learned to work hard under his regime. (he has worked in a first spell at Bayern starting the 90s with e.g. Hamann, Babbel and Nerlinger). In the first year of van Gaal and again since Heynckes he works as assistant with the professionals but there he is more the "good" father-type.
Kroos could fall out of the plans if he does not work and runs enough even if he has great ball skills. Or he could be that key player.
How does he see Müller - as a shadow forward like van Gaal did (a midfielder that comes from deep, does defensive work and partly is a forward), false nine or winger? Müller is a figure in his plans - he was his mentor's (van Gaal's) favourite player and Guardiola named him as his wish player for Barcelona before (that was not available but he would play him with Messi and Villa) - and Müller prolonged his contract to 2017 about the same time Guardiola signed.
What is with Gomez? Van Gaal had no use for him in the first year - and only adapted his system (and Gomez changed his style a little) in the second year. Guardiola did not really use that type of strikers...
Hojbjerg will be brought into the professional team next season - he still might need time as he is only 17.
A lot of questions - it will get interesting...
But I do not think he can make a show like van Gaal did - and I hope he will get used to beer showers...
Will be interesting to see how this goes. I personally dont see much reason to believe he will do anywhere as well as he did with Barca.
feck me, that betting line would have to have the most possible bets in history.
In the last 5 years the Bundesliga has been the most competitive in Europe.
Bundesliga
No. of winners: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 2: 6
No. of different teams to finish in top 4: 9
Average points difference between 2nd and 4th: 8
Premier League
No. of winners: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 2: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 4: 6
Average points difference between 2nd and 4th: 12
La Liga
No. of winners: 2
No. of different teams to finish in top 2: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 4: 7
Average points difference between 2nd and 4th: 24
Klopp, Mourinho and Guardiola I reckon. Wenger's really the only other option for me and we'll see over the next couple of years whether Guardiola and Klopp really are in that class but I think so.
Good post.
I find it so ironic how fans of British football love to talk down about the uncompetitiveness of just about every other league, while ignoring the fact that by and large, Manchester United basically win the Premier League every year!
I love the Bundesliga, best run league in the World for me. Awesome place for players, fans, managers, owners, just fecking awesome.
Hopefully this encourages ESPN to show more Bundesliga or better yet Sky to buy the rights and put on a decent show like they do with La Liga.
Another club that has the foundation to dominate its league for several years.Kinda dissapointed by Guardiola, he doesn't have the courage to go to a club with a bigger challenge in terms of performances
What team do you want him to go to, Tottenham?
Wouldn't going to a club without a base be for a manager that needs to prove something, that can't get a job like Bayern?
Wouldn't going to a club without a base be for a manager that needs to prove something, that can't get a job like Bayern?
He'll have to call Mascherano for tips on playing CB
I'm just breaking balls man.I would never have thought he'd go to Germany tbh
In the last 5 years the Bundesliga has been the most competitive in Europe.
Bundesliga
No. of winners: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 2: 6
No. of different teams to finish in top 4: 9
Average points difference between 2nd and 4th: 8
Premier League
No. of winners: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 2: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 4: 6
Average points difference between 2nd and 4th: 12
La Liga
No. of winners: 2
No. of different teams to finish in top 2: 3
No. of different teams to finish in top 4: 7
Average points difference between 2nd and 4th: 24
That was a tongue in the cheek statement.
I know about the competitiveness of the Bundesliga, and how it is very stable et all, whilst pulling crowds with packed stadiums regularly. However, I still feel it is a roller coaster of a league where the teams who do qualify for the CL tend to focus on the European campaign and as a result fall out of Top 4 places in the corresponding seasons. Schalke, Wolfsburg all come to mind.
Even though United do end up winning the League most of the times right now, we have had many teams giving a run for our money. Arsenal (before they used to capitulate in Feb/March, Chelsea, when they had a squad, and City has suddenly just spouted up).
I am not belittling Bundesliga, but when you compare the resources that Bayern have with the rest of the League, you do wonder if it will be all that difficult for Pep.
Didn't expect to see this happen now, but it will be interesting to see how he goes with a club that isn't barcelona