Pep Guardiola agrees contract with Bayern

I disagree. As has been noted already by our friend with the japanese name, any moron could coach a team the quality of BM to 3 titles (as Villanova did with last years best team of all time - oh wait. he didnt).

That being a fact, why did Bayern hire Pep? Because they expect much more from him than just "not upsetting the balance" and win some titles. He is expected to do nothing less than to build a dynasty. a legacy. Something that will top the 1970ies team.

Whould that have been the expectations, had he signed for Chelsea or City?

would love to write more, but gotta dash. Live TV from the first public training. 25.000 spectators, reknown magazines like "spiegel" run news tickers... Aaah, such an easy job Pep has...

I dont really see any relevance in what you're saying in relation to what I was saying. Clearly Bayern have appointed him because they think he'll do well - or they wouldnt have done so in the first place.

Your over-exageration is staggering. I didnt say Bayern is an easy job - infact I said he might find himself in a "lose-lose" position. The discussion was about whether he's considred, or will be considered a managerial great based on what he's achieved so far.

He's walked into a club primed to dominate for the next few years given the players they have and how far they are along their curve - so to me that's not as big a challenge as joining a side who need to do a lot of building to get anywhere near where Bayern are now. Someone's already done a lot of the hard work for him. If he does well there will always be people who say he's achieved what he should have given what he has at his disposal - the same as he had at Barcelona.

In short, he might build a "legacy" - but I suspect he wont change much, because it works well and because the blokes in charge at Bayern probably wont let him - so to me his legacy might be based significantly on what those before him have already achieved - even more so than at Barca.
 
You lot should really read the first article Blackwidow posted. Outstanding
 
I disagree. As has been noted already by our friend with the japanese name, any moron could coach a team the quality of BM to 3 titles (as Villanova did with last years best team of all time - oh wait. he didnt).


The friend with the Japanese name never said that. Did he?

I am sure we'll have a proper discussion someday, when you are over your moronic and pathetic attempts to make shit up. :annoyed:
 
Bayern just uses the methods that are open for them in this country to work successfully. Everything they have or did was based on their success in sports and management. Like this it is not comparable with the "sugar daddy" clubs were investment is not based on prior success in sports - maybe not even future success as the money they spend is not profit related (like the investment of the usual American investor in the Premier League is).

That as a result both parties have money from big companies is a result - but not the cause - and just does not make it the same. In Bayern's case the sums are in a direct relationship to the success they have - the companies use their partnership for Bayern for marketing. And the two companies that have each a 9 per cent share had big interest in showing their relationship with Bayern.

Can you imagine how big the interest of a company like Nike would be to be kit sponsor of FC Bayern? It is somehow the unthinkable as the relationship between Bayern and Adidas is very close since 40 years - like this it is just normal that they took the chance to get the shares of Bayern when they were offered. For Bayern the deep relationship to Adidas might even be an economic disadvantage if you see the contract Adidas just made with Chelsea. It is something similar with Audi - Germany is a big car manufacturer country and being the car partner of the biggest brand in the biggest sports in the country is a major deal.

To make this discussion about the dominance in the league right now has just the wrong timing. Bayern has had a totally unusual season last year - and to base all the discussion on this season and this exceptional team just does not fit it. The financial gap is probably as big as it always was in the last 10 to 20 years - and even if Bayern for sure was in the race to the title each year they have not reached that goal too often. Bayern's goal is to be competitive in Europe - and their commercial deals is their only advantage they have and the only possibility to be that - they do not drain out their fans and they are not in the advantage of a TV deal like the EPL has it or the advantages of the two Spanish teams.

Until the last season Bayern always had a decent first team - but in difference to the other European teams did not have a good bench. So in difference to the other German teams that mainly concentrated on the league they tried to compete in Germany and in Europe. And it is just not the same motivation a player X gives a match against medium or smaller Bundesliga teams at Saturday when he played a European team on Wednesday. It is the same effect you saw with Dortmund this year.

I feel like we are going on in circles. I could quote all my previous posts to form a reply.

All the things you mentioned is exactly why Bayern are a dominant force in Germany and it is a one team league. I have never chastised them for being at the top.

One thing - It is exactly the right time to talk about dominance as this season they thumped the previous two time champions by 25 points. And then they went ahead and bought one of their talismans.

I can bet you that Dortmund won't be even in the top 4 in the next couple of seasons. Klopp would be drinking Kool-aid while counting his benjamins at another top European club.

Guy with the Japanese name, OUT! ;)
 
I feel like we are going on in circles.
:lol: I warned you. It was always going to happen if you use the thread for your "one team league" stuff, which has been discussed at length in like a million threads.
 
Wow, never had a friend on a forum before. Amazing how it all turned out, who would have thought.