Paul Pogba

Status
Not open for further replies.
How are they two idiots?
Its easy not to question your role when you're clearly out of depth. Things get complicated if a player got some real talent and is kept out of the team by two idiots who should be thanking their lucky stars for playing at a club like United in the first place
 
You only have to watch them play

To understand they werent good midfielders, i agree. That does not mean they are idiots at all, it sounds flippant and arrogant. Neither Ji or Rafael were "two idiots lucky to play for Utd" whereas we should have bent over to Pogba, changed the club structure, which by the way, he got his offers, hes the king of controversy. Look at all Mendes clients.. He teaches them to do this.. It gives them exposure.
 
To understand they werent good midfielders, i agree. That does not mean they are idiots at all, it sounds flippant and arrogant. Neither Ji or Rafael were "two idiots lucky to play for Utd" whereas we should have bent over to Pogba, changed the club structure, which by the way, he got his offers, hes the king of controversy. Look at all Mendes clients.. He teaches them to do this.. It gives them exposure.

Cleverley couldn't pass the ball forward and Ando needs oxygen after 20 minutes of play. Happy now?

Pogba wanted to play. He couldn't because SAF preferred the former to the latter. He left United, went to Juventus and he got the first team opportunity he deserved. Its kind of ironic because he couldn't break into a team who had nearly 40 year olds playing, Cleverley and Ando but he was all right in competing for a first team place against the likes of Marchisio, Pirlo and Vidal.

Ultimately we all know who was right and who was wrong. Nearly all SAF's midfielders are gone, most on free while we're still searching for a quality midfielder and that despite spending more then 120m there (Blind, Di Maria, Herrera, Fellaini)
 
Last edited:
To understand they werent good midfielders, i agree. That does not mean they are idiots at all, it sounds flippant and arrogant. Neither Ji or Rafael were "two idiots lucky to play for Utd" whereas we should have bent over to Pogba, changed the club structure, which by the way, he got his offers, hes the king of controversy. Look at all Mendes clients.. He teaches them to do this.. It gives them exposure.
I think he's a Rioalo client? But yeah, agree with what you're saying.
 
Cleverley couldn't pass the ball forward and Ando needs oxygen after 20 minutes of play. Happy now?

Pogba wanted to play. He couldn't because SAF preferred the former to the latter. He left United, went to Juventus and he got the first team opportunity he deserved. Its kind of ironic because he couldn't break into a team who had nearly 40 year olds playing, Cleverley and Ando but he was all right in competing for a first team place against the likes of Marchisio, Pirlo and Vidal.

Ultimately we all know who was right and who was wrong. Nearly all SAF's midfielders are gone, most on free while we're still searching for a quality midfielder and that despite spending more then 120m there (Blind, Di Maria, Herrera, Fellaini)

Searching for another quality midfielder! Carrick and Herrera are quality. You add Pogba to those and I prefer our trio on several levels for next season......
 
Searching for another quality midfielder! Carrick and Herrera are quality. You add Pogba to those and I prefer our trio on several levels for next season......

You're right. My mistake
 
Bringing him back would be quite risky in that we would probably break our transfer record for a player who might leave again in 3-4 years.
 
Bringing him back would be quite risky in that we would probably break our transfer record for a player who might leave again in 3-4 years.

Which is why we shouldn't. As good as he might be.
 
Bringing him back would be quite risky in that we would probably break our transfer record for a player who might leave again in 3-4 years.
You'd imagine if he did leave after 4 years the club would be getting a hefty transfer fee in return.
 
He will end up at Madrid no doubt about it. He's not worth break our transfer record for this summer. We need a new striker, RB and CB
 
He will end up at Madrid no doubt about it. He's not worth break our transfer record for this summer. We need a new striker, RB and CB

Nothing to do with Pogba, but we need a new midfielder before all the position you mentioned, this weekend we had no CM on the bench.
And if he decides to join us again, I don't think that he would ask for a transfer in 4 or 5 years, at least not if we take care of Raiola.
 
Nothing to do with Pogba, but we need a new midfielder before all the position you mentioned, this weekend we had no CM on the bench.
And if he decides to join us again, I don't think that he would ask for a transfer in 4 or 5 years, at least not if we take care of Raiola.

So much wrong with this post. Firstly, an empty spot on the bench is not a good reason to blow our transfer budget on Pogba. Especially since we were playing Blind, a CM, at LB because we couldn't fit him in as a midfielder. Plus Di Maria's best position is as an attacking central midfielder.

And, entirely hypothetically, how would we 'take care' of Raiola? And if it's that easy why does any big club ever have a problem with agents like him? Why did we lose Pogba in the first place, when we could have just 'taken care of' Raiola?

Ugh. This thread. Why do I keep reading it?

This, basically.
 
So much wrong with this post. Firstly, an empty spot on the bench is not a good reason to blow our transfer budget on Pogba. Especially since we were playing Blind, a CM, at LB because we couldn't fit him in as a midfielder. Plus Di Maria's best position is as an attacking central midfielder.

Like I said nothing to do with Pogba, and like you said the price of Pogba is a problem, if we don't rate highly.

And, entirely hypothetically, how would we 'take care' of Raiola? And if it's that easy why does any big club ever have a problem with agents like him? Why did we lose Pogba in the first place, when we could have just 'taken care of' Raiola?

You can always accommodate an agent, Raiola wants money, if we are willing to provide him that, he will be happy, the question is are we willing to give him the money necessary and do we deem the player valuable enough to pay for him.
 
So much wrong with this post. Firstly, an empty spot on the bench is not a good reason to blow our transfer budget on Pogba. Especially since we were playing Blind, a CM, at LB because we couldn't fit him in as a midfielder. Plus Di Maria's best position is as an attacking central midfielder.

And, entirely hypothetically, how would we 'take care' of Raiola? And if it's that easy why does any big club ever have a problem with agents like him? Why did we lose Pogba in the first place, when we could have just 'taken care of' Raiola?

Di Maria is not going to play in midfield for us though, he's way too erratic and careless, it's clear LvG favours possession, and Blind is playing LB because our LB is injured. Pogba is the best young CM in the world and would add a massive amount of explosive quality to our midfield while not losing the physicality or technical ability needed.

Fergie didn't believe in taking care of agents, the club is a different animal now, LvG doesn't seem to care about the financial side at all, he leaves that to Woodward and I am sure he'd keep paying Raiola what is required to keep Pogba's head at Old Trafford.
 
Think it's a terrible reason to pass up on a talented player because he may leave for Madrid in a few years. De Gea was touted as the heir apparent to Casillas and with him being Spanish there was always the possibility we could lose him, but should we have never signed him because of that? If the players we're looking at don't have the potential to be wanted by other top clubs, than we shouldn't be looking at signing them to begin with.

Plus with the exception of Ronaldo, who else desperately wanted to leave here that were playing regularly? Guys like Ruud, Heinze and Tevez left because someone else took their place which probably wouldn't happen with Pogba.
 
Even if Madrid did end up signing him eventually, who gives a feck if you've got some good years out of him and sell at a profit.
 
He will end up at Madrid no doubt about it. He's not worth break our transfer record for this summer. We need a new striker, RB and CB

Cheers for telling us mate! Could a mod please close this thread as he is clearly not joining us now?
 
Yeah mods, while you're at it please find a new tampon for this chump.
Regards

Sorry but I just hate it when randomers on here state that player "X" will go to a certain club as if they know something the rest of us don't, when in reality they don't. Unless you know Paul Pogba personally then you can't say that there is "no doubt" that he will end up at Real Madrid.
 
Somewhere down the line, I feel Pogba is going to come back to bite us in the ass hard.

You just know we will come up against him in the league / Champions League eventually and he'll get the all important goal against us.
 
Sorry but I just hate it when randomers on here state that player "X" will go to a certain club as if they know something the rest of us don't, when in reality they don't. Unless you know Paul Pogba personally then you can't say that there is "no doubt" that he will end up at Real Madrid.
In my opinion of course, I wasn't stating it as fact
 
Even if Madrid did end up signing him eventually, who gives a feck if you've got some good years out of him and sell at a profit.
People are just scared that he will break their muppet hearts again....
 
Even if Madrid did end up signing him eventually, who gives a feck if you've got some good years out of him and sell at a profit.

I struggle to see how we might make profit from him though. Juventus aren't mugs and will sell him for nothing less than 50-60m. Do you think Real would buy him for 100m? I think that the easier option would be for Raiola to let Pogba see most of his contract out at the new club and than make his move. Another trick used by his agent is to force Pogba to insult the club forcing them to sell him ASAP. It did work with Ibra at Juventus.
 
I think that the easier option would be for Raiola to let Pogba see most of his contract out at the new club and than make his move. Another trick used by his agent is to force Pogba to insult the club forcing them to sell him ASAP. It did work with Ibra at Juventus.

Raiola, never did that in the same context, though. As for Juventus, Ibrahimovic wanted to join a club who wasn't in Serie B, it has nothing to do with Raiola.
 
Sorry but I just hate it when randomers on here state that player "X" will go to a certain club as if they know something the rest of us don't, when in reality they don't. Unless you know Paul Pogba personally then you can't say that there is "no doubt" that he will end up at Real Madrid.
Sod Pogba, I'm more interested in this mysterious player "X". He ounds cool, what position does he play?
 
Raiola, never did that in the same context, though. As for Juventus, Ibrahimovic wanted to join a club who wasn't in Serie B, it has nothing to do with Raiola.

Raiola would do anything to have his protegee move from one club to another. Between 1993 and 1999 Vieri moved 7 clubs one per year. He did the same thing between 2006-2009 where he moved 5 clubs.
 
I struggle to see how we might make profit from him though. Juventus aren't mugs and will sell him for nothing less than 50-60m. Do you think Real would buy him for 100m? I think that the easier option would be for Raiola to let Pogba see most of his contract out at the new club and than make his move. Another trick used by his agent is to force Pogba to insult the club forcing them to sell him ASAP. It did work with Ibra at Juventus.
Perhaps it could end as messily as you say. His agent does sound like a snake.

However you'd assume he'll stay at whatever club he goes to for at least 4-5 years. If he kicks on and becomes the world class player many think he will, I see no reason why we couldn't make a decent profit on 50-60m.
 
Raiola would do anything to have his protegee move from one club to another. Between 1993 and 1999 Vieri moved 7 clubs one per year. He did the same thing between 2006-2009 where he moved 5 clubs.

Ajax-Juventus: It was for Juventus.
Juventus-Inter: Calciopoli, Serie B
Inter-Barcelona: Ibrahimovic dream club, Inter wanted the 40m+Eto'o
Barcelona-Milan: Barcelona got rid of Ibrahimovic.
Milan-PSG: Milan was in extremely bad financial situation and got rid of all the expensive articles.

Now, if you look at his client list, they don't really move much, and we don't hear about a lot of move for them, players like Matuidi or Hamsik are pretty settled. Except Balotelli but the agent isn't the principal cause in that case.
 
Last edited:
The fact is, a policy of not going for young players who we feel may end up at Madrid one day translates into a policy of not signing the best players in the world.

There are good players, then there is a level of good a player can get to where everyone automatically starts linking him to Madrid. As a top club, we would surely like to have one or two at that level in the team, and shouldn't be leaving the entire top-shelf to Real and Barca to divide up between themselves.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.