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I've been saying it all along...we have more chance of getting Bobby Charlton to come out of retirement and play the box to box role than we have of Pogba coming here. He's defo Madrid or Paris bound. Vidal wouldn't be a bad alternative at all - his value has plummeted from an awful season at Juve but he's talented enough to rediscover the monster player of a couple of seasons ago..closest thing you'll find Roy Keane in the modern era despite all the womanizing playboy reckless crap that will come with the whole package
 
I've been saying it all along...we have more chance of getting Bobby Charlton to come out of retirement and play the box to box role than we have of Pogba coming here. He's defo Madrid or Paris bound. Vidal wouldn't be a bad alternative at all - his value has plummeted from an awful season at Juve but he's talented enough to rediscover the monster player of a couple of seasons ago..closest thing you'll find Roy Keane in the modern era despite all the womanizing playboy reckless crap that will come with the whole package

I hate when people say things like this. Unless you are privy to what's going on behind the scenes at those clubs then you have no idea where he will end up. You might think we are unlikely to get Pogba but to say we are more likely to get a man in his 70's to play for us again rather than Pogba is BS to be fair even if it was said tongue in cheek.
 
If he doesn't come here, then I hope he goes to PSG. Couldn't stand the sight of seeing him at another English club or Madrid, who treat their players like shit.
 
If he doesn't come here, then I hope he goes to PSG. Couldn't stand the sight of seeing him at another English club or Madrid, who treat their players like shit.

If we get Champions League i can't see us allowing him to go anywhere in England without us putting up a hell of a fight. We have the financial muscle to match Chelsea.
 
If we get Champions League i can't see us allowing him to go anywhere in England without us putting up a hell of a fight. We have the financial muscle to match Chelsea.

Yes, but as mad as it may sound, do we need him? It has been said that Van Gaal wants a midfielder to bring us balance (i.e. a defence minded box to box player). As good as Pogba is, he isn't really defensive minded, and I fear we'd be taking a lot from his game if we were to get him to try and play that role. That said, maybe Van Gaal could mould him into that type of player - a more disciplined midfielder - similar to what he did with Schweinsteiger. The lads got it all, and when he plays for France, it's often Matuidi who does all the running in behind, etc, whilst Pogba kind of stays back and dictates the game.
 
I can't think beyond PSG. The only Parisian superstar who will be just that for a decade.
 
I can't think beyond PSG. The only Parisian superstar who will be just that for a decade.

He does talk about us constantly, perhaps he likes the idea of coming back and 'proving Sir Alex wrong', even though Sir Alex rated him and that's not really what happened at all.

But yes, PSG makes a lot of sense. Has he talked about wanting to live in France?
 
Am I the only one who would prefer Koke or Verratti over him? I would rather throw a lot of money on one of those 2 than on Pogba.
 
Am I the only one who would prefer Koke or Verratti over him? I would rather throw a lot of money on one of those 2 than on Pogba.
Don't agree with Veratti but I'd sell anyone for Koke, lad's incredible.
 
As good as he is, i'm not sure i even want him to be honest. We would never hear the end of it from rival fans and the press etc, after letting him go for free then paying £60mil for him a few years later.
 
As good as he is, i'm not sure i even want him to be honest. We would never hear the end of it from rival fans and the press etc, after letting him go for free then paying £60mil for him a few years later.

Well that's a load of rubbish and you know it. Who gives a feck anyway about what rival fans think. Pogba has a very good chance of winning a Ballon'dor in the future, he is an excellent player right now and the best part about it is the fact that he's only 22, which leaves massive room for improvement. Nobody is going to be laughing if he's bossing games for us, because that's exactly what he will do.
 
As good as he is, i'm not sure i even want him to be honest. We would never hear the end of it from rival fans and the press etc, after letting him go for free then paying £60mil for him a few years later.
Who cares?

If it means trophies, I welcome it. Chelsea aren't worried about the money the spent buying Matic twice.
 
Am I the only one who would prefer Koke or Verratti over him? I would rather throw a lot of money on one of those 2 than on Pogba.

Haven't watched too much of Koke, but when I have, he often plays on the right or left. Can he play in centre mid and does he have the required engine for the type of player Van Gaal is looking for.

As for Verratti, he's an awesome player, but the reason I would choose Pogba over Verratti is, as well as his superb technique, he also has great physical attributes.
 
when you read his agents comments in the Lukaku thread it does make you wonder about Pogba....

you could see us spending big to bring him in and then 2/3 years down the line you could see Raiola causing all sorts of shit to make Stretford look like an angel
 
He won't come back to us. If he does join a Premier League team it'll be Chelsea or City.
 
when you read his agents comments in the Lukaku thread it does make you wonder about Pogba....

you could see us spending big to bring him in and then 2/3 years down the line you could see Raiola causing all sorts of shit to make Stretford look like an angel

Agents make far more money moving their players from team to team and picking up cuts of transfer fees. I suspect an agent would tell you that the ideal career is the one Anekla had. He generated more fees per pound of talent than any footballer in history.

So yes, this is a very real concern. We will have to keep Raiola happy and this means getting out the wallet and keeping it out. At the same time, we can't let it get out of hand, player power must only go so far.
 
Do you know him personally or something?

No but he seemed to feel let down by United so if that's the case why would he come back? I'm only being realistic and trying to stop people from getting their hopes up.
 
Agents make far more money moving their players from team to team and picking up cuts of transfer fees. I suspect an agent would tell you that the ideal career is the one Anekla had. He generated more fees per pound of talent than any footballer in history.

So yes, this is a very real concern. We will have to keep Raiola happy and this means getting out the wallet and keeping it out. At the same time, we can't let it get out of hand, player power must only go so far.

Zlatan has his fair share of moves under Raiola as well....can imagine Balotelli racking up 6/7 clubs in his career as well

it seems to be a tactic he employs.....
 
So what if we did sign Pogba, got 3-4 years out of him and then sold him for a profit to Real? That's good business.
 
It's pretty clear there will be a bidding war. United have long needed the type of player he's become, City has to be looking for what's next after Toure and PSG and Real Madrid are always in the market for top players. He'd probably thrive at either And win plenty of trophies along the way.

Arsenal could really use him to give them drive and steel in their mostly technical midfield. Wenger seldom goes for that type of player. Besides, he'd be a lot for them to spend on one player. Özil is probably more of a one off anomaly than their future.

Not the Barça type, fortunately.

I could see him making Chelsea's full midfield options the best in the world. I wouldn't rule out them signing him.

It's not going to be easy.
 
So what if we did sign Pogba, got 3-4 years out of him and then sold him for a profit to Real? That's good business.

I'm liking the feeder club mentality in that post. Also this isn't Porto or Southampton the purpose of this club is too win trophies (Thanks Fergie :)) not do good "business".
 
I'm liking the feeder club mentality in that post. Also this isn't Porto or Southampton the purpose of this club is too win trophies (Thanks Fergie :)) not do good "business".

You can do both, you know.
 
Zlatan has his fair share of moves under Raiola as well....can imagine Balotelli racking up 6/7 clubs in his career as well

it seems to be a tactic he employs.....

I Think that the Raiola thing is a big exaggerated. I don't Think his clients move more than other agents clients. Zlatan moved many times yes, but not without reason. He probably wouldn't have left Juve if they hadn't been punished by relegation, Barcelona was his Dream club so it was a no-brainer for him to go there once they showed interest. He was then pushed out of Barcelona into Milan who were a sinking ship and now he's at PSG.
 
No but he seemed to feel let down by United so if that's the case why would he come back? I'm only being realistic and trying to stop people from getting their hopes up.

Because top players generally have massive egos. And what better way than to show up potentially the greatest manager of all time by coming back, and leading United to their next golden age.

I think if he is available, we will definitely be waving the $$$ at him. Not sure we'll get him though, but I think he's worth pushing the boat out for, especially with Carrick getting on in age, and us hopefully being in 4 competitions next year.
 
Am I the only one who would prefer Koke or Verratti over him? I would rather throw a lot of money on one of those 2 than on Pogba.
Don't know about Verrati, i rate Koke a bit higher than Pogba but Pogba can do things which Koke cannot. Mostly pace and explosiveness.
 
I'm liking the feeder club mentality in that post. Also this isn't Porto or Southampton the purpose of this club is too win trophies (Thanks Fergie :)) not do good "business".
Its not feeder club, its realistic. I guess Fergie had the same 'feeder club mentality' when he brought Ronaldo knowing full well, by how own admission I might add, that we wouldn't keep him for his whole career. 3 titles, a CL amongst other trophies and we sold him for an massive profit.

Damn Fergie, I guess he fooled us into thinking we were a winning club when we were actually on the same level as Porto and Southampton all along. The greatest trick he ever played.
 
What's more embarrassing, buying Pogba back for a huge fee or watching him go to our rivals and making them that much harder to pull back?

Haven't watched too much of Koke, but when I have, he often plays on the right or left. Can he play in centre mid and does he have the required engine for the type of player Van Gaal is looking for.

As for Verratti, he's an awesome player, but the reason I would choose Pogba over Verratti is, as well as his superb technique, he also has great physical attributes.

Koke is box to box with endless energy and workrate and can play right across the midfield, in our current system he'd be ideal as the #8's are expected to link with the fullbacks as well as playing centrally.
 
I think we should sign him whatever the cost. Then, for a laugh, bench him for the first game and play Rafael and Shaw in midfield.
 
Won't care what ever he does. If he rejoins us then so be it not one of my favourite players out there.
 
Barcelona lining up Paul Pogba deal claims Juventus director Pavel Nedved

"We know that Barca and other big clubs want him," Nedved said in an interview to El Mundo Deportivo newspaper. "But Pogba has a contract with us."

"We lose a lot without him," Nedved said. "He is a footballer with an enormous quality but we cannot cry about it.

"We have a great roster that can overcome his loss."


http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/barcelona-lining-up-paul-pogba-5447913
 
So what if we did sign Pogba, got 3-4 years out of him and then sold him for a profit to Real? That's good business.

I don't mind it. Ronaldo Lima played for Inter and Barca in his pomp, and Real, and what's wrong with that?

Of course most players you'd rather keep, but I'm sure those three teams are happy they got to play him for the time they got.

But then you have to be pretty sure he'll be worth as much or more when Raiola is ready to take 20% of £60m again. He hasn't thrown a fit at Juve, so it seems he won't be th sort to kill his transfer fee by demanding a move. After all, the big fee is the whole point.
 
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