Paul Pogba - Juventus player | ban reduced - able to play competitively from March 2025

JPRouve said:
Footballers without meniscus are damaged and can't train properly. For someone like you such operation is minor because you likely don't have to put too much stress on your joints but it's not the case for athletes.
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I can only tell you what my consultant told me and he is a knee specialist. To save constant knee problems, they remove the meniscus.

Long term, living without a meniscus can cause problems with arthritis and you may need to have your knee replaced, but, they figure, it's a short career, you can manage a few years without it. Worry about the long term effects after you retire.
 
Sassy Colin said:
I can only tell you what my consultant told me and he is a knee specialist. To save constant knee problems, they remove the meniscus.
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To add to this, I don't know if it has any relevance but I train with a few people in Muay Thai who've had theirs removed, they fight and train after a few weeks rest but after a certain age I don't know if they could walk properly. Maybe it's different in football because of the amount of movement you do?
 
tjb said:
You get a lot of the attack from the flanks. Coman and Theo Hernandez as wing backs is very attacking.
I'm looking at it like Conte's Chelsea, where Matic and Kante allowed Hazard and Pedro to not need to defend as much.
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That could work let's see if Didier could pull it off.
 
Sassy Colin said:
I can only tell you what my consultant told me and he is a knee specialist. To save constant knee problems, they remove the meniscus.
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I know that it's not your opinion but unless you didn't mention it, he is missing a few key points. The consequences of that surgery are that the articulation deteriorates at a faster rate, it also often provokes chronic pains and arthrosis. The main benefit is that it's an "easy" surgery and allows a quick recovery, the downsides is that the articulation is likely done in the mid to long term.
 
facchiano said:
To add to this, I don't know if it has any relevance but I train with a few people in Muay Thai who've had theirs removed, they fight and train after a few weeks rest but after a certain age I don't know if they could walk properly. Maybe it's different in football because of the amount of movement you do?
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Pogba is what age now, 29? He's got 3 or 4 years left in the top flight, he'll earn millions. If he needs his knee replaced by time he's 40, he'll still have his millions and won't need his knees to perform at the same level he requires them to, as a footballer.
 
JPRouve said:
I know that it's not your opinion but unless you didn't mention it, he is missing a few key points. The consequences of that surgery are that the articulation deteriorates at a faster rate, it also often provokes chronic pains and arthrosis. The main benefit is that it's an "easy" surgery and allows a quick recovery, the downsides is that the articulation is likely done in the mid to long term.
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See my post above
 
Unlucky for Paul - must be a tough time for him with the injury, missing WC, and all the shit with his brother/the gang
 
Pogba is a carrington graduate so I'll always have love for him. Hopefully he makes it to the World Cup.

and I know people in football have short memories, so I get all the "Eriksen is way better" shouts, but sometimes they're not needed. Eriksen has played like what 5 or 6 games for United? Pogba did good things here too, but alas
 
All these years we tried playing Pogba in a midfield 2, then Eriksen did everything we had wanted Pogba to do in that mid 2.
 
If the 60 day projection is correct he could be fit by November but I don't see how Deschamps can gamble and risk a player with no competitive football for 7 months. What a terrible decision to delay this when a surgery would likely have guaranteed full fitness with 1 month to spare if it was taken immediately.

Initially they were saying the surgery would keep him out till 2023 and that is why he chose therapy but if it was only 60 days it's crazy that it was delayed.
 
Yeah out 6 weeks is what they’re saying. He’ll play at the WC, I have no doubt. He’s a very different player for France where he just seems to always be dialed in. That was my issue with Paul: he gave up on us. Every bad result, he got worse. He was our most expensive player, he should have taken it upon himself to help change the situation. But he’s not that guy. And thats ok.
 
NewYorkRed said:
Yeah out 6 weeks is what they’re saying. He’ll play at the WC, I have no doubt. He’s a very different player for France where he just seems to always be dialed in. That was my issue with Paul: he gave up on us. Every bad result, he got worse. He was our most expensive player, he should have taken it upon himself to help change the situation. But he’s not that guy. And thats ok.
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I don't think any manager ever used him properly the whole time he was at United.

Whereas Deschamps knows exactly how to use him.
 
"My thought process is to show Manchester that they made a mistake in waiting to give me a contract.
"And to show other clubs that Manchester had made a mistake in not offering me a contract."
 
The world class 90m Pogba needed the whole midfield setup for him to succeed. Where as Eriksen who was a winger/AM for most of his career, shows he can play in a 2 man CM.
 
Sassy Colin said:
If it was truly a meniscal tear, which is what I have at the moment, it's a 10 minute op and a couple of weeks recovery. Obviously, for a footballer, he wouldn't be playing competitive matches after 2 weeks, but could be back in training.

My consultant said that they often take out the meniscus when it comes to footballers anyway, so, perhaps, that's what Pogba is having.
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I've also got a meniscal tear at the moment, I hope you're not having to spend 8 months waiting for surgery on an NHS waiting list like I am!

Anyway I feel sorry for Pogba. He must be gutted to miss the world cup, and the way his injuries are going, this might have been his last shot at one.
 
Pogba just cannot catch a break. His career is under threat of going the Owen Hargreaves. Constantly injured for long periods of time, completely unreliable for the clubs he play for by no will of his own.
 
Corey said:
I've also got a meniscal tear at the moment, I hope you're not having to spend 8 months waiting for surgery on an NHS waiting list like I am!

Anyway I feel sorry for Pogba. He must be gutted to miss the world cup, and the way his injuries are going, this might have been his last shot at one.
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feck me, 8 months, sorry to hear that. I've been paying for private health insurance for years, about time I got something back from it.
 
Tom Cato said:
Pogba just cannot catch a break. His career is under threat of going the Owen Hargreaves. Constantly injured for long periods of time, completely unreliable for the clubs he play for by no will of his own.
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Can't be all blamed on the injuries. When he's fit and playing he makes lots of silly mistakes in bad areas that lead to chances for the opposition.

He's just a luxury player. Without a top team around him he's a bit of a nothing player really.
 
How he's still living rent free here is beyond me!!
 
Sassy Colin said:
I don't think any manager ever used him properly the whole time he was at United.

Whereas Deschamps knows exactly how to use him.
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The problem with Pogba was that he's only "world class" if you can put players around him to do half his job so he can focus on doing the other half very very well.

For France, he's been able to concentrate on the things he's great at, like carrying the ball from deep and using his range of passing, whilst other players do the aspects of the central midfield and attacking midfield roles he's not good at. Kante and the 3rd midfielder do the lion's share of the defensive work you'd expect from a player who occupies the space Pogba does on the pitch, whilst Griezmann drops in from the left to flit around in the space behind the striker you'd expect a player with Pogba's creative role in the team to occupy. On top of that, they've got Mbappe, who is the ideal player to take advantage of Pogba's long passing in behind.

"Using him properly" at club level would require 100s of millions worth of signings and multiple players curtailing their natural game, and no club is ever going to outlay that sort of cash and risk alienating half the squad to build around an awkward player (especially one as inconsistent and injury prone as Pogba) when they could just sign a more conventional attacking midfielder who can make a similar contribution without needing the team built around him.
 
MileStolar said:
How's my boy Vlahović doing apart from scoring free kicks? Looks like he might lose his place to Milik
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Allegri’s (apparent) tough love is meant to make him a more complete player, but he is already worth 100m+, moreso in the current inflated market… and a number of uber-rich teams are already pursuing his next move.
 
Giggsy13 said:
Thank feck not our problem. Eriksen is a class way above this tosser.
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All those times his fans would come here and talk absolute bollocks for all those years. Thank God those days are over, someone else's problem now.
 
tjb said:
Tchouemeni and Kante.
For me, France need to move on from both Pogba and Griezman anyway.
A 343 like the below would work:

Maignan
Kounde, Varane, Lucas Hernandez
Coman, Kante, Tchouemeni, Theo Hernandez
Dembele, Benzema, Mbappe
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Maignan will not start at the WC if Lloris is fit
 
Bad luck with injuries, and that’s a real shame for the lad, but his Lazy attitude at United was awful. So glad he’s someone else’s problem.
 
The only negative about this is the fact we got no money for him. Wish we’d of sold him when we had the chance and made some money. Would of been the best money we’ve ever made because he’s always injured. He’ll probably play about 5-10 games this season for juventus.
 
redsunited said:
The world class 90m Pogba needed the whole midfield setup for him to succeed. Where as Eriksen who was a winger/AM for most of his career, shows he can play in a 2 man CM.
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We lost to Brighton at home, and got hammered by Brentford. We've now won four games - two good wins against Liverpool and Arsenal and two results we had to grind against Leicester and Southampton. Is that really a sample big enough for verdicts?

Moreover, people act like Pogba didn't do good things here, ever:

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DJ_21 said:
The only negative about this is the fact we got no money for him. Wish we’d of sold him when we had the chance and made some money. Would of been the best money we’ve ever made because he’s always injured. He’ll probably play about 5-10 games this season for juventus.
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Yeah and you know what's the reason ? Because the club ,the board and the fans backed him over Jose Mourinho. Could have easily earn over 100m back then after he won the world cup before covid market hit. That decision is still nonsense till today. You don't back a player over a manager unless you wanted to give players power which is always end up bad in any club.
 
I think just like Dybala, Pogba is a player that lives from his early years hype. He's a marketing machine that hasn't produce enough of the pitch in the last years for the hype he creates.

Thankfully he was dumber than our management and he didn't accept the contract offer or we would've been stuck with him for another 4-5 seasons.
 
His career would turn out to be much better if Raiola (and family) was never his agent.
 
Has he booked his winter break early this season?
Wonder if we can watch his rehab on Insta.
 
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