[He'sRaldo]

At this point is it worth debating with anyone who ever thought Pogba was actually faking injury?

Ever since that episode it's been a waste of time to debate Pogba with such, in my opinion.

 

[Adam-Utd]

At this point is it worth debating with anyone who ever thought Pogba was actually faking injury?

Ever since that episode it's been a waste of time to debate Pogba with such, in my opinion.

Crazy isn't it. They're presented with all the facts, both sides telling the same story yet it's still all a ruse and a fakery? ridiculous.

 

[VP89]

Tbh, I haven’t noticed any posts of you praising Pogba. Ultimately, my observation has been that you are at the forefront of every negative conversation of Pogba, and seem to be amongst those driving the agenda more often than not. Fair enough and apologies if we have all just made a mistake and your views on the player are actually balanced after all.

Probably because most of my posts of late is talking about selling him and bringing Grealish from an economic standpoint, that Pogba wanted to go and the surplus funds can be used towards better developing the squad if it means bringing Sancho + one other big player in. That's not from any agenda or because I don't like his fecking hair so people should stop getting overly defensive about it.

Quite sure I've caveated many times that we should sell on the condition that he wants out. After Grealish's actions of late I even said we should keep Pogba over pursuing a character like Grealish but whatever.

At this point is it worth debating with anyone who ever thought Pogba was actually faking injury?

Ever since that episode it's been a waste of time to debate Pogba with such, in my opinion.

Not really - but before some bellend decides to point at me for it - I was asked in this thread whether I thought he was injured. I didn't revive any conspiracy theory to be trending right now.

 

[laughtersassassin]

Nah if you ever implied Pogba was faking an injury then your opinion is just completely invalid. It's great really.

Or remember the Pogba will never play for United again group in October. They love moving the goal posts. Great for a laugh though

 

[Rolaholic]

Gonna post this here to steer clear of tired agenda's/bad faith arguments and to try to veer the thread back on topic...




Truly cannot wait until we get to see back out there healthy with the likes of Rashford and Bruno for the first time

 

[Rozay]

Gonna post this here to steer clear of tired agenda's/bad faith arguments and to try to veer the thread back on topic...




Truly cannot wait until we get to see back out there healthy with the likes of Rashford and Bruno for the first time

Yea, I posted the actual video in the United Forum too, as the interview had already been labelled ‘typical self-centred Pogba’ in the thread so would probably be wise for people to just watch it themselves.

 

[SATA]

Why is his performances thread being littered with bickering posts of VP89 vs virtually everyone who has a sane mind on the Caf?

 

[VP89]

Why is his performances thread being littered with bickering posts of VP89 vs virtually everyone who has a sane mind on the Caf?

Try not being a dick please.

 

[Shimo]

Of course he is suddenly all over the media claiming he can’t wait to return now the league has been suspended for months.

If you are referring to what he has said in this podcast, probably should realize that this was something it was actually done before the league shutdown and he was nearing his come back to training with the team - the club are just releasing it now for whatever reason. Oh and it may seem like months but, it's been a month to the day that the league has been suspended - not months.

 

[Rozay]

If you are referring to what he has said in this podcast, probably should realize that this was something it was actually done before the league shutdown and he was nearing his come back to training with the team - the club are just releasing it now for whatever reason. Oh and it may seem like months but, it's been a month to the day that the league has been suspended - not months.

Not to mention that it is simply common sense that he is now talking about a return, given he is now fit!

 

[Stacks]

Sky know it generates interest which is why they wind Souness up and watch him go. I wouldn’t even mind but their punditry panels are full of tub thumpers who all tow Souness’s line. It was great when they had Evra on, who despite being ridiculously partisan, called Souness out for his absolute shit.

I must admit, I’ve laid into Pogba a fair bit but that’s probably more down to being frustrated with how United’s fortunes have been. With distance thanks to the season being put on hold, you get some perspective and realise he isn’t a bad guy and certainly not a bad player. The narrative around him is ludicrously black and white and he’s judged more harshly than anyone in world football.

They are indeed trying to get views over there on sky. They know what they are doing. I enjoyed when Evra called Keano out for it aswell. I think Sky like it when they happens or Rednkapp calls Sourness out because it gets people tweeting

 

[Feed Me]

They are indeed trying to get views over there on sky. They know what they are doing. I enjoyed when Evra called Keano out for it aswell. I think Sky like it when they happens or Rednkapp calls Sourness out because it gets people tweeting

Good point, Redknapp tries to fight back. You can tell he gets frustrated with cave men like Souness. Keane slams Pogba regularly but, in fairness, he canes everyone equally.

 

[Stacks]

In my OP:
"Generally I wouldn't much mind about what the players have to do on social media or what their hairstyle is like, provided it looks like they are mutually exclusive to the performances on the pitch and not a reflection of any sort of distraction."

I asked for a debate as to whether being active on social media whilst being off form is something that should be regulated - and many managers do try to actively regulate the extent of social media of their players. Pep didn't like the social media Mendy gave, Hassunhuttle would ban the wifi in the hotel before game-day (If I'm not mistaken, although this was also linked to online gameplay too). Ferguson himself wasn't keen on social media with any of his players, although he wasn't in sync with the social media boom there was a logic to it.

It's just a debate to open, mainly because Gary Neville himself pointed it out and I thought I'd make a thread on it. Alas it brought out a vile reaction by anyone who thinks Pogba should be doubted in any shape or form.

Its funny, you haven't picked out many of my posts where I've praised Pogba, turns of form, great attitude in his summer or just today in his rebuttle to Souness. Funny that, people see what they want and just flag anyone who gives any criticsm as some sort of "Forever Pogba Hater".

Wait a minute....I've seen this in another thread involving a French United player!

 

[Bondi77]

At this point is it worth debating with anyone who ever thought Pogba was actually faking injury?

Ever since that episode it's been a waste of time to debate Pogba with such, in my opinion.

Maybe you should debate it with Ole as he seemed like he did not know what was going on with him at the time and that line of thought seeped through to the fans.
Quite a rational way of thinking and unless you are really close to the player and have inside info I would say most fans who are fans of the club before the individual players would have thought that way.

 

[Jeppers7]

I haven't doubted his injury for a long while, so what do you think.

Yeah, you know feck all how I think so that's a good word to describe your response.

Your immediate conclusion that Pogba did a self promotion dab post on the back of Corona Virus gives me the impression that your unbalanced with regards Pogba.

if Carrick did it you would t jump to the same conclusion. To suggest you would is nonsense.

 

[VP89]

Your immediate conclusion that Pogba did a self promotion dab post on the back of Corona Virus gives me the impression that your unbalanced with regards Pogba.

if Carrick did it you would t jump to the same conclusion. To suggest you would is nonsense.

Carrick Jesus christ youre lost, just give it up with your bullshit mate.

 

[Jeppers7]

Carrick Jesus christ youre lost, just give it up with your bullshit mate.

it’s just an example calm down.

 

[laughtersassassin]

Maybe you should debate it with Ole as he seemed like he did not know what was going on with him at the time and that line of thought seeped through to the fans.
Quite a rational way of thinking and unless you are really close to the player and have inside info I would say most fans who are fans of the club before the individual players would have thought that way.

It really does get better.

 

[VP89]

it’s just an example calm down.

It's not really an example. It's a gripe you harvest that others rate Carrick and you don't.

 

[Jeppers7]

It's not really an example. It's a gripe you harvest that others rate Carrick and you don't.

I’ve no issue with anyone rating someone, this isn’t really a conversation about rating players though it’s about people making personal assumptions about players motivations. I provided an EXAMPLE of a player you obviously hold in a higher regard. Not sure why I need to explain it, I’d have thought it was obvious enough that’s why I used Carrick. A player I’m aware you like.

Listen probably best if we leave it here anyway.

 

[VP89]

I’ve no issue with anyone rating someone, this isn’t really a conversation about rating players though it’s about people making personal assumptions about players motivations. I provided an EXAMPLE of a player you obviously hold in a higher regard. Not sure why I need to explain it, I’d have thought it was obvious enough that’s why I used Carrick. A player I’m aware you like.

Listen probably best if we leave it here anyway.

The players talent is mutually exclusive, you can provide any weird example you want, I already said it had feck all to do with who posted it.

 

[Jeppers7]

The players talent is mutually exclusive, you can provide any weird example you want, I already said it had feck all to do with who posted it.

calm down

 

[VP89]

calm down

I'm more than calm, now stop quoting me and let the thread continue.

 

[Jeppers7]

I'm more than calm, now stop quoting me and let the thread continue.

ok

 

[Bondi77]

It really does get better.

So what is it that I have posted that you do not agree with?

 

[Rozay]

So what is it that I have posted that you do not agree with?

Well your post was basically defending/validating people choosing to doubt whether Pogba was really injured. That would probably be what @laughtersassassin was getting at. Especially as Pogba had only been injured for a few weeks when that thread was made questioning the authenticity of his injury. It’s also clearly an attack on Pogba’s perceived character, as under any circumstances, it’s quite a strong accusation to say a player is pretending to be injured. Not even for one game, but for an entire month at that point. That person would have to be one of the shittiest players I can think of, and the assumption just showed what a lot of our fans clearly think of the man. It’s not an accusation I can recall being made of another United player in my entire life.

 

[laughtersassassin]

Well your post was basically defending/validating people choosing to doubt whether Pogba was really injured. That would probably be what @laughtersassassin was getting at. Especially as Pogba had only been injured for a few weeks when that thread was made questioning the authenticity of his injury. It’s also clearly an attack on Pogba’s perceived character, as under any circumstances, it’s quite a strong accusation to say a player is pretending to be injured. Not even for one game, but for an entire month at that point. That person would have to be one of the shittiest players I can think of, and the assumption just showed what a lot of our fans clearly think of the man. It’s not an accusation I can recall being made of another United player in my entire life.

Fairly spot on this. Also wasn't a fan of the statement implying that the majority who back Pogba in this situation are more fans of him than the club.

I love Pogba and think he is a class player who has been scapegoated here as we have been in a period of turmoil. But if he leaves I will be watching every single United game as I do now. Nothing will change. The only thing that will change is I will watch whoever he signs for more than I do now as I love watching him play football.

Like how I watch Barca now more than I will when Messi retires.

 

[RedTiger]

Of course he is suddenly all over the media claiming he can’t wait to return now the league has been suspended for months.

Mate just chill. The interview was recorded before the

He did though - he put up a post in jest to say that people should do his signature dab as part of guidance towards keeping safe in the pandemic.

Mate keep it down. Pogba was asked by the World Health Organisation to do that campaign.

 

[Bondi77]

Well your post was basically defending/validating people choosing to doubt whether Pogba was really injured. That would probably be what @laughtersassassin was getting at. Especially as Pogba had only been injured for a few weeks when that thread was made questioning the authenticity of his injury. It’s also clearly an attack on Pogba’s perceived character, as under any circumstances, it’s quite a strong accusation to say a player is pretending to be injured. Not even for one game, but for an entire month at that point. That person would have to be one of the shittiest players I can think of, and the assumption just showed what a lot of our fans clearly think of the man. It’s not an accusation I can recall being made of another United player in my entire life.

I think you need to read my post for what it is and not what you choose to read into it.
Ole did not have a clue what was going on and he is the manager of the club and if he is unsure then that flows through to the fan base
Simle really!

 

[Rozay]

I think you need to read my post for what it is and not what you choose to read into it.
Ole did not have a clue what was going on and he is the manager of the club and if he is unsure then that flows through to the fan base
Simle really!

He didn’t?

So again, seeing as you are implying I did not read your post properly, you have basically just repeated your defence /validation of the view that Pogba was pretending to be injured at the time. You just gave your reason for defending that view, presumably because you think I didn’t see it the first time, and because you feel that because you declared Ole had no clue about Pogba’s injury, that should be the end of the conversation?

 

[Bondi77]

He didn’t?

So again, seeing as you are implying I did not read your post properly, you have basically just repeated your defence /validation of the view that Pogba was pretending to be injured at the time. You just gave your reason for defending that view, presumably because you think I didn’t see it the first time, and because you feel that because you declared Ole had no clue about Pogba’s injury, that should be the end of the conversation?

Which of the three of us are closer to the truth of what happened
You, I or Ole?

 

[laughtersassassin]

Great thread for those who want to reminisce on his class world cup. Why Jose had to take dig at him at the first press conference after that season. To not even congratulate him was mental.


Wish he had swallowed his pride congratulated him especially since he cut his holidays short to come back again.

Things could have been so different.


EDIT: Not sure why the bottom portion is coming in bolded

 

[Rozay]

Which of the three of us are closer to the truth of what happened
You, I or Ole?

Ole, of course.

 

[bosnian_red]

Cant wait to get back to football, whenever it happens. Not sure if it's down to coronavirus or our improvement, but I think Pogba will stay at least another season. Just have a feeling, though all year until now I thought he was off for sure so we'll see. Would be brilliant to have him and Bruno together.

 

[hmchan]

They are indeed trying to get views over there on sky. They know what they are doing. I enjoyed when Evra called Keano out for it aswell. I think Sky like it when they happens or Rednkapp calls Sourness out because it gets people tweeting

That's why I hate the media so much. They like creating stories to get more views. They also feed readers with what people want to hear, instead of the whole truth. This somehow controls the public opinion and leads to irrational and extreme comments from the fans.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

If he truly cared about this club he'd get his brother and agent to shut up. But he doesn't. They say what he knows he can't say himself.

Can't believe the grip he has on some fans on here. Barring Oles first 3 months where I genuinely thought he looked like the best player in the league.... He's been a very underwhelming signing. People seem to rewrite history a lot with Pogba and always talk about the what ifs rather than what he's done. KDB has come to the league and shown him up for me. Far superior player.

 

[Isotope]

Watching the France vs Argentina 2018 WC game on MOTD live on BBC atm, and he's running the strings.

Said it before, I thought he's the best France player at WC. He's the only creative player on that whole team. Just like Zidane in the past.

 

[Feed Me]

If he truly cared about this club he'd get his brother and agent to shut up. But he doesn't. They say what he knows he can't say himself.

Can't believe the grip he has on some fans on here. Barring Oles first 3 months where I genuinely thought he looked like the best player in the league.... He's been a very underwhelming signing. People seem to rewrite history a lot with Pogba and always talk about the what ifs rather than what he's done. KDB has come to the league and shown him up for me. Far superior player.

I had just come on here to say that it’s notable how much his entourage has shut up of late, with Pogba doing more speaking for himself.

I think he will sign a new deal.

 

[VP89]

I had just come on here to say that it’s notable how much his entourage has shut up of late, with Pogba doing more speaking for himself.

I think he will sign a new deal.

Raiola did a complete U turn saying he "will reach out to Ole" when Ole said he won't even bother speaking to him.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

I had just come on here to say that it’s notable how much his entourage has shut up of late, with Pogba doing more speaking for himself.

I think he will sign a new deal.

Another man it's not like Raiola and Pogbas brother are expected to talk about Pogba every week. And I'm sure they've passed the message across