He will not perform consistently as long as the team in its entirety looks as clueless as it is now. Mourinho has a lot of work to do. Pogba alone (nor any player in the world) will not change what's broken at our club if the manager doesn't come up with a solution. As for his transfer fee, we know we got fleeced by Juventus, it's a fact, no need to keep mentioning the money over and over again..
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Take away his skillful dribbles and he is nothing special. Still a good player, probably the least of our problems.
Poor again but I'd like to see us play the 4-3-3 for a dozen games to get him worked in.
That's true, aye, but the problem is that I'd argue if there's any one player in the team who's been brought in to raise us to a different level when we need it, it's Pogba. He's naturally not going to be able to do it all the time but he feels like the sort of player who's been brought in to make valuable contributions when we're struggling...if that makes sense. Still plenty of time for him to improve, though.
I know what you're saying and I agree with it. You can see it with his dribbling runs, long shots and long passes, he tries too hard to make an impact. He is not fully in sync with his teammates too. He has so much ability but at this time, it's almost pointless cause so many other things need correction.
Yeah, he's certainly trying and getting plenty of time in the ball. He's perhaps looking even more frustrating in a sense because we're seeing glimpses of what he's supposed to do but not really getting the results or end product from it yet. Should start coming off soon.
We will see what 'the Special One' is made of this season....
No excuses for him today. He was very bad at performing his role
I agree 100%. Herrera and Schneiderlin together with him is tidy but lacks creativity. Pick one to be a harasser and choose one of Carrick or Blind to sit in front of the defense, start the attacks and keep the pace in the play. This will allow Pogba the freedom to play.
He's been poor in his last two games, but he's a slow starter & didn't have a pre-season, he's actually one of the players that can lift the team to a better level, I am not worried about his to be honest. He'll pick it up.
The worrying thing is he started to develop 'Depay-like' tendecies as he got more frustrated - trying to take people on unecessarily, shooting from distance, poor touches.
At the end of the day he has everything he needs to be great but it is up to Mou to play him in his best position and get this team working. I don't really get where he was meant to be tonight and, for all the youthful exhuberance, we looked pretty dire.
At the end of the day he has everything he needs to be great but it is up to Mou to play him in his best position and get this team working. I don't really get where he was meant to be tonight and, for all the youthful exhuberance, we looked pretty dire.
He was shit but he was taking up better positions tonight, he was freed up and was trying to influence the game, it's just that everything he tried failed but early days yet.
Didn't Pogba also get off to a slow start at Juventus last season?
My opinion on Pogba has yet to change: Fantastic individual player capable of moments of sheer brilliance, but he doesn't control games and rarely seems to be stamping his authority on midfield for the full 90min. He drifts in and out and seems to focus most when he sees a chance to make something happen individually instead of helping his team succeed as a whole.
He still has time to develop, of course.
He still has time to develop, of course.
He will come good, he's going to get a lot of stick from the media in the next few weeks though.
Yes but it also coincided with Marchisio/Khedira not being able able to babysit him or so im told by Juve fans.
At times the game was passing him by, you can see there is no cohesion between any of the midfielders supporting him. Everyone looked like strangers thrown together.
This is what I and a few others were banging on all summer. His lack of interest to get involved is frustrating and it's even more frustrating considering the obvious talents he's but you don't get to see it in YouTube highlights reel.
This is how Pogba plays and people should have known it if they've watched him regularly.
Slagging him off now isn't going to change his style of play. We just need to find a system, a system which forces Pogba to get involved more and forces the play through him. Because the more he gets involved, the more beneficial it's for the team.
This is how Pogba plays and people should have known it if they've watched him regularly.
Slagging him off now isn't going to change his style of play. We just need to find a system, a system which forces Pogba to get involved more and forces the play through him. Because the more he gets involved, the more beneficial it's for the team.
I don't know if I'd say he hasn't been involved so far: it feels like he gets plenty of the ball when he plays, but just hasn't been able to do a lot with it yet.
Just read this ; Paul Pogba spelled backwards is Abgop Luap, which makes no sense, just like the 89 million Manchester United spent on him.. bollocks but made me chuckle.
You're kind of right about today but I don't think he's up for this game. I did question this at half time and said if he lacked motivation to play in an EL game then there was no point in forcing him to do so.
It's early day but he'll run out of excuses pretty soon. Needs to perform.
Play him in behind the striker.
To be fair he was one of the better players today but still not great. So when you look at the price tag it's not surprising questions are being asked straight away.
I actually wasn't excited about the Pogba signing (although yes I was always on the thread mainly because I wanted us to get one over RM...sad eh?). But although talented of course, I don't think he's THAT good. I watched him in the Italian league and he had much more time on the ball, especially against mid to lower teams, than he will have here against any of the Premier League teams - the pressing is so much more fierce here. Also....and this is just my opinion - hunch if you like, but I truly believe that his heart was really set on RM this summer. It just reeks of a Di Maria feel...
I really hope I'm wrong, would love to be proved wrong....but hey...just putting it out there.
I really hope I'm wrong, would love to be proved wrong....but hey...just putting it out there.
Hopefully this is a sign. Di Maria started amazing and then slowly became shite. Memphis started well and then turned to shite. Hopefully Pogba is just a slow start and will find his place and start to really play well. I am sure this will happen.
He's come out and said multiple times he picked us over Real.
Di Maria in his first few interviews basically confirmed PSG was his 1st choice.
It's not the same.
Was class against Southampton but you have to say he hasn't done much since. Have no doubt that he'll come good, but we do need a different type of player next to him. Everyone who watched Juve knew that he was more just a highlights player, with the ability to dominate games but not really ever learning to do it consistently. It's why I always said that there isn't really anything between him and Pjanic (who Juve got for around 25m). Juve when Pogba was there had other midfielders there who knew how to control the tempo of games, and spread the play to the more creative players and get them in good positions to attack. Our only player capable of that is Carrick who is too old obviously. So without that, we rely on Pogba to come deeper and make things happen when really he hasn't been that type of player yet. He has a huge skill set, but he hasn't learned how to get the most out of it yet.
What Scholes said is right though. We won't see the best out of him until we sign someone who can control games to partner him. Someone to pass him the ball in good positions so then he could hurt teams in more advanced areas. I'm not saying he is a #10 or anything. He's just not suited to being the main guy in midfield really. The one who can pick the ball up off defenders and the one who knows where and when to pass the ball and then where to follow that up with his movement (Carrick, Scholes, Xabi Alonso, Kroos, Modric, Xavi, etc). He's more the secondary mid, who will help the main mid in controlling the game but more pick the ball up in other positions and add the highlight bits to games. Goals, assists, bits of skill, shots from range, random really good runs with the ball or creative passes, etc.. Obviously for the price we paid many on here want him to be that, but he just isn't and never has been.
I'm still fine overall with the price though as for that secondary role in midfield, he has the potential to be truly world class, and he should improve us loads, and since we have the money I would rather we spend it then do nothing with it. But signing him was never going to fix our midfield completely because of the lack of a controlling midfielder.
What Scholes said is right though. We won't see the best out of him until we sign someone who can control games to partner him. Someone to pass him the ball in good positions so then he could hurt teams in more advanced areas. I'm not saying he is a #10 or anything. He's just not suited to being the main guy in midfield really. The one who can pick the ball up off defenders and the one who knows where and when to pass the ball and then where to follow that up with his movement (Carrick, Scholes, Xabi Alonso, Kroos, Modric, Xavi, etc). He's more the secondary mid, who will help the main mid in controlling the game but more pick the ball up in other positions and add the highlight bits to games. Goals, assists, bits of skill, shots from range, random really good runs with the ball or creative passes, etc.. Obviously for the price we paid many on here want him to be that, but he just isn't and never has been.
I'm still fine overall with the price though as for that secondary role in midfield, he has the potential to be truly world class, and he should improve us loads, and since we have the money I would rather we spend it then do nothing with it. But signing him was never going to fix our midfield completely because of the lack of a controlling midfielder.
Pogba and Di Maria are two of my favourite players but I'm inclined to agree with you here. I think everyone would choose Real Madrid over Manchester United. Except for the loyal bunch like Giggs, Scholes, Neville, etc. But maybe thats because the opportunity didn't arise for them.
Beckham left remember. He will tell you he never wanted to leave, blah blah blah but the fact remains, he did.
I wouldn't be surprised if Pogba was to leave in the summer like Di Maria did, for like 70m. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
If last 2 games proved anything about Pogba it's that he cannot regularly play for us in two-men midfield. He doesn't have and won't find necessary energy and stamina levels to fulfill requirements for the aforementioned role. Number 10 is tailor-made place for him.
Oh come on.
Don't overreact so much. Sure, maybe he wanted to come go to Madrid but he looked happy to come to us. So we don't know that.
And he certainly won't go anywhere after just 1 year. You're painting it like we're some kind of small club compared to Madrid how will gladly let go of their our player to the big bad Madrid.
The bit about Scholes and Giggs is lousy too.
Today he played with 2 mids behind him..
Looks a bit bambi-ish at times to me.
He's trying to do too much, needs a clearly defined role. He was trying to build up at the back, then trying to make play off the ball, then drifting wide etc. He needs to focus on doing his job well (the manager just needs to decide what he wants him to do).
He will improve once our team starts to click.
It's easy to forget but we have such a player...I've seen a few people mentioning this and I do believe it's true. Bastian would complement POgba extremely well. Pity our manager has decided to publically name and shame him.
I don't believe Madrid were ever interested in Scholes or Giggs.
He looked happy alright, but so did Di Maria. The media over here are ruthless when it comes to foreign players. They will roast Pogba week after week when he's not scoring.... Even though he's a CM and isn't really supposed to be scoring many.
I agree that he would fit perfectly, but that's him at his best. The current Schweinsteiger has no energy and is way too slow and injury prone. Mourinho wrote him off basically and many others have mentioned that he wasn't exactly committed to the team last season, so it sucks but shit happens and we have to move on.It's easy to forget but we have such a player...I've seen a few people mentioning this and I do believe it's true. Bastian would complement POgba extremely well. Pity our manager has decided to publically name and shame him.
I know that, but the game still showcased his lack of dynamism and aggression needed to play in two-men midfield. It's not good enough in current football era. He'd be wasted there just like Deschamps was kind to present screwing up France chances for Euro final glory.
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