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I have said this a couple of times since he's been at Juve but some of his play reminds me of Zidane.
Funny enough, he does a lot of Zidane moves, close to all of them in fact and I'm pretty my fellow united fans will see them as time goes by. However he doesn't actually play like Zidane. By that I mean his passing patterns, generally understanding of the tempo of the game, and his ability to dictate affairs for his team. If Viera had great feet, this lad has marvelous ones.
 
Very very very very good "debut" - his first debut was quite good too iirc but nothing like this - definitely come back a much more complete player. Strong, fast, skillful and tireless and he's not 100%. Can't wait to see him develop with us and get better and better.
 
I'll wait until the windows has nearly closed and the season about to start before making any final predictions, but I don't think that Pogba is going to improve United much at all. He's just not the sort of player who takes games by the scruff of the neck and imposes himself. For the absurd sums of money involved I fear you'll have bought yourself a sheep in wolf's clothing.

True.

My own feeling is that Pogba will be the biggest let-down of them all, especially given the vast sums involved. But we'll soon see I guess.

Does he? I don't see any great energy, commitment or willpower in him. From what I've seen he often strolls languidly around the pitch, mostly passing sideways and backwards, and sometimes getting caught in possession. I don't see that he's going to take games by the scruff the neck and impose himself on them: very unlike Modric, or Bale, or Alli and many others whose sheer drive is evident. I suspect he'll will find the Prem a huge shock compared to Serie A.

Moreover, I keep hearing that he can't play well in a midfield 2 unless it's with an out-and-out DM - and his performances alongside Matuidi in the Euros seem to support this view. But United don't have such a DM, so apparently that's one role for Pogba out of bounds straight off the bat. This is unfortunate, seeing as Mourinho prefers a 4-2-3-1 formation. It's also not great to think that this "world class" player apparently needs everything arranging to perfection around him before he can play well.

So where is he going to play? The only seeming option is to drop Rooney, the captain, to make way for Pogba in the AM position. But that will result in a storm of Rooney dissent within your squad ... hardly the best way to get Mourinho's reign underway.

Pogba is a good player, if not very versatile. He's got a very good long range shot, is good in the air, is big and strong and can make powerful, driving runs forward He's also got a few fancy tricks and flicks. But does he have the sudden acceleration of Modric, or the vision, intelligence and passing skills of Modric or Carrick, or the energy, commitment and aggression of Veratti? Not that I've seen.

Yes, he's scored some goals and made some assists - albeit in a weaker league. But then so has Alli last season, at younger age and in a stronger league.

All in all I think that Pogba has been greatly over-hyped. He'll improve United, but not by that much.
No, I wouldn't, despite such a decision being a big gamble.

Alli has things that Pogba lacks: energy, aggression, a sheer drive to win, giving his all. Moreover, he's adapted to the Prem and settled in England. Pogba might not adapt well and might not settle.

I'd also note that Alli got 10 goals and 9 assists for Spurs in the league. Considering he was aged just 19 for most of the season, that's outstanding.

Well @GlastonSpur , any thoughts on his debut?

BBC:
"Paul Pogba's first game for United since his return for an £89m world-record fee sees him make more touches (103), play more passes (71) and win more duels (20) than any United player."

 
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Honestly, it's hilarious reading about how Zlatan and Pogba were going to struggle in the prem, "a huge shock" ffs :lol: Because the likes of Bournemouth, Southampton and Hull are just too big a step for them, won't be able to hack it against the mighty Simon Francis and Jordy Clasie :lol:
 
He can literally do everything & anything on the pitch. Really impressive I thought - considering he isn't 100% match fit too. Hope he continues to build that and then turns it on against City in the derby :drool:
 
He's like every solid defensive midfielder over the past 15 years, but on cocaine or something similarly stimulating.
 
Well @GlastonSpur , any thoughts on his debut?

BBC:
"Paul Pogba's first game for United since his return for an £89m world-record fee sees him make more touches (103), play more passes (71) and win more duels (20) than any United player."

@GlastonSpur :lol: To say you are clueless would be all too generous.

Those posts are tragic. The part where he states that he 'fears' that we've bought a dud is pathetic. As if he hopes for anything else...
 
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Was going to GIF his best moments but decided to make this instead:

 
Honestly, How shit is Didier Deschamps? Absolutely fecking had no clue how to use him at the Euros
 
Love the way he uses his body and strength to get away from his opponents.
 
I think the issue of controlling the midfield in terms of possession is that Rooney and Mata are absolutely useless in terms of ball recovery... so Pogba and Fellaini are forced to cover space and can't get aggressive as a result.
It's definitely an odd setup with the two of them like that. I thought both had a good game, but could've taken it up a level with a 6 covering space behind them and allowing them more freedom defensively and in attack.

His stats are amazing. 8/12 takeons. A decade or more since we had a CM capable of that. Probably a lot longer.
Ando could do that for about 2 runs, then he would die.
 
He's so fecking good despite not being 100% yet. Will be recognised as the best CM in the league in no time.
 
Cuts through the midfield like it's butter. Our team is suddenly looking star studded. Unlike the wins we had under LVG, you actually feel confident about this side.
 
Could not believe my eyes even after seeing him in red. :devil::devil: What a complete debut! Had everything except a goal and I believe that will come soon. Cannot wait to see him fully match fit.
 
Honestly, How shit is Didier Deschamps? Absolutely fecking had no clue how to use him at the Euros

Very shit. Having kante meaning pogba would be able to have that almost free role in the midfield 3. The perfect way of having pogba in the team imo.

Instead pogba is the defensive midfielder, with the free role going to sissoko :wenger:
 
Well @GlastonSpur , any thoughts on his debut?

BBC:
"Paul Pogba's first game for United since his return for an £89m world-record fee sees him make more touches (103), play more passes (71) and win more duels (20) than any United player."


So much cluelessness there:lol::wenger:

Clearly he's never watched him play and his 'opinion' is how he hopes and wishes Pogba would play rather than reality!
 
Phil Neville said on commentary that when Valencia was bombing forward into space on the right, Mourinho was screaming at Fellaini and Pogba to sit deep and not get forward. That, to me, sounds like a bit of a waste.

Firsly I don't agree with your two CMs sitting deep when you have the ball but fine, its Jose, hes a cautious manager.

But secondly and more importantly, make the likes of Herrera/Schneiderlin/Fellaini/Rooney do that, not Paul Pogba.
Neville had verbal diarrhea yesterday. Though I remember that comment but one should remember it was late in the game and we were protecting a 2-0 lead. That is why Mourinho was a bit extra cautious because Pogba was making runs box-to-box throughout the game.
 
Phil Neville said on commentary that when Valencia was bombing forward into space on the right, Mourinho was screaming at Fellaini and Pogba to sit deep and not get forward. That, to me, sounds like a bit of a waste.

Firsly I don't agree with your two CMs sitting deep when you have the ball but fine, its Jose, hes a cautious manager.

But secondly and more importantly, make the likes of Herrera/Schneiderlin/Fellaini/Rooney do that, not Paul Pogba.
Probably was a case of picking your moments to do it and not every single time. Pogba did it loads today and Mourinho said after he was not even as offensive as he can be (or something along those lines), so there's more to come. He's a young player still so he does need to learn a bit, and things like knowing when to charge forward or when to hold back a little back goes along with it as we were caught a bit light at the back on occasion today.
 
This is the Paul Pogba I've been expecting to play for United ever since I heard of him in the reserves. A couple of years too late, but better late than never.

I was hoping both him and Morrison would be fixtures in the first team once they graduated but one of two is fine.
 
Was going to GIF his best moments but decided to make this instead:




Deschamps should return his coaching badges for telling a player like this to sit and protect the back 4. I wonder what he will look like after 4 games. :eek:
 
It's surreal to see him back with us....I actually get giddy ffs.
Same here. I thought the entire game was really weird just seeing him in our shirt again.

We throw around the word "surreal" a lot here when it comes to recent signings, but seeing Pogba out there yesterday had a special aura about it. Almost too surreal.

Not sure how to exactly put it into words, but it was almost as if I was in a dream.
 
Honestly, How shit is Didier Deschamps? Absolutely fecking had no clue how to use him at the Euros
The issue Deschamps had was that Griezmann likes to play the 10 behind the CF and is a fantastic scorer and player. You also have Matuidi on the other side who likes to bomb back and forth too. Not to mention Payet being a playmaker who started the tournament on absolute fire. France is just incredibly talented right now and you don't need one player to be the superstar. It's about whoever is in the best form. At first, Payet was a monster so he got the focus. Then Griezmann went crazy so he got the emphasis.

Pogba has to win his right to be the star on France. It won't be handed to him. Deschamps actually gave him the chance to be the dominant force against Siwtzerland and he was good, but not great.

Not going to get easier either because I'm telling you... Rabiot is a monster CM in the making and you have the young Harit of Nantes who is another kid phenom CM (Bayern Munich is trying to buy him this summer but Nantes are resisting).

Finally, there were massive injuries at CB and Deschamps wanted the CMs to be more cautious so the inexperience/weakness there wasn't exposed. Rami was very shaky and Umtiti had never started a game with France before the QF of the Euro.

I completely understood why Deschamps played things the way he did.
 
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I will add that the only reason France lost the final of the Euro and looked like they ran out of gas... was that the semis against Germany was on Thursday night and the final was on Saturday night. Stupid planning that was always going to be huge problem for either Germany or France in the final. I knew that, if France didn't score within the first 60 mins, they were going to have trouble finishing the game. And it did unfortunately. Their legs gave out.

Pogba and Griezmann absolutely killed themselves against Germany and had very little left for the final.
 
Got back home after a 3 hour delay on shitty M6. But I'd do it again to see this lad. He was just wow last night.
 
Feel lucky to have seen him play last night in the flesh. It's easy to think looking at his physique he's about power and physical strength. But it's his ball playing skills that really catch the eye. To think he's not match fit... I'm excited!
 
The French Tom Cleverley ladies and gentlemen!

Still buzzing from his performance last night. Feck the price tag, it will look like a bargain. If I saw him playing for a rival I would be totally bricking it.
 
Stupidly happy about that performance. Don't watch Serie A and the Euros had me worried that the future superstar I got so excited about as a teen might have feet of clay. Feck me, though, he was excellent. Looked like a man against boys at times. Colour me happy :D

I have a feeling you won't be disappearing this season :)
 
Honestly, it's hilarious reading about how Zlatan and Pogba were going to struggle in the prem, "a huge shock" ffs :lol: Because the likes of Bournemouth, Southampton and Hull are just too big a step for them, won't be able to hack it against the mighty Simon Francis and Jordy Clasie :lol:

It's hilarious when you actually think about it lol
 
Alli has things that Pogba lacks: energy, aggression, a sheer drive to win, giving his all. Moreover, he's adapted to the Prem and settled in England. Pogba might not adapt well and might not settle.

:lol: Pogba has no energy, aggression or drive to win
 
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