Paris terror attacks on Friday 13th

Just saw the video of the blast being heard during the football game. That was on twenty minutes. How on earth did they manage to play the entire 90?
 
Just saw the video of the blast being heard during the football game. That was on twenty minutes. How on earth did they manage to play the entire 90?

The players wouldn't have realized what it was probably. They might have assumed it was fire works or something similar
 
The players wouldn't have realized what it was probably. They might have assumed it was fire works or something similar

I'm not saying the players should have realized but rather security agencies considering the president was at the game. I guess it took more than an hour from the blast for them to realise what had happened.
 
You tacitly are by shifting the blame from the perpetrators to geopolitics.

There has been considerable evidence to support this position for some time, incidentally. Unfortunately, I only envision the US ramping up even more which will only foment the seeds of hate in every corner further.

These things don't happen in a vacuum - these implicated countries have lived with some form of instability for longer than most of us have been alive. Now the new front of guerilla warfare has arrived at our doorsteps, on some level I believe this was an inevitability. What happens next will define how we will live out the rest of our lives
 
:(

One can assume they had planned to enter the stadium but somehow failed. Would have been carnage.

The world is turning insane and I fear things will only get more extreme.
 
in the right thread this time. top post on the reddit live thread is pretty harrowing (if true)-




There's more.

Another of the user's (the French guy, not the Reddit one) posts:

- Denmark
- UK
- Netherlands
- Belgium
- France
- USA
It's almost over for them


Also a picture of one of those possibly responsible:

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'When you see this photograph on BFM, it will be too late'

BFM is a French news station.

He then tweeted:



Laughing with the caption 'What I have to say?'
 
As are the actions of Iran and Syria by feeding conflict in Iraq by funneling jihadis, weapons, money, and support into Iraq after the fall of Saddam. The vast majority of foreign AQI fighters came to Iraq via Syria with the help of Assad's intelligence agencies. He let Syrian jihadis out of prison and sent them to Iraq with training and weapons.
I guess it's a "how long is a piece of string" argument. It was the American invasion that led to the fall of Saddam (not to mention US involvement in the Iran/Iraq war in the 80s).
 
Just saw the video of the blast being heard during the football game. That was on twenty minutes. How on earth did they manage to play the entire 90?

I'm not saying the players should have realized but rather security agencies considering the president was at the game. I guess it took more than an hour from the blast for them to realise what had happened.

It was probably a sensible decision, they certainly knew there had been attacks, if the match had been abandoned you'd have 60,000+ people leaving the stadium into a potentially dangerous situation. Add to that the chances of those people hearing about terrorists on the loose and you have a stampede/crush. I think those who took the decision to keep the match going and control the situation are to be applauded.
 
I'm not saying the players should have realized but rather security agencies considering the president was at the game. I guess it took more than an hour from the blast for them to realise what had happened.

The president and the German foreign minister left during the break.

It was told that the German team was brought into the hotel at about 2 or 3 am but that was not right. They stayed in the stadium until morning and then left to the airport to fly to Frankfurt.
 
Yes.

Unfortunately radical Islam is becoming a scourge of modernity. It is like Fascism, spreading and causing death on a frightening scale. Unfortunately it is an ideology so deep rooted that I cannot see a conceivable solution to eradicate it.

By ceasing to shield certain "allies" who peddle and fund this ideology would be a good start.
 
There's more.

Another of the user's (the French guy, not the Reddit one) posts:




Also a picture of one of those possibly responsible:

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'When you see this photograph on BFM, it will be too late'

BFM is a French news station.

He then tweeted:



Laughing with the caption 'What I have to say?'


After the laughing he finishes with "Je suis mort, je suis mort".

I am dead, I am dead.

Cnut.
 
Awful news and people are blaming certain parties and acting as if things like this have never happened before. The world is a very dark place if you actually pay attention and it has always been like that, yes it's a shock for it to happen in such a modern metropolis in such spectacular fashion but people have always killed people and it will never change.

History always repeats itself and no matter who we bomb or invade and no matter how many troops and police on standby, if people want to kill other people they will find a way.
 
The randomness of major attacks like this makes it even more frightening. The intention of the murderers is to make ordinary people think twice about whether they should engage in previously risk-free activities, like going to a concert or going out for a meal. It's a psychological terror as well as a very real one for the victims, and when they get people to question their normal way of life, they have pushed their evil agenda into the front of people's minds.

May the souls of the victims rest in peace. Love to all on here who are in Paris.
 
Really is scary stuff. It's so hard to fight a enemy that doesn't want to survive, just created as much carnage as possible.

I fear these attacks will become more frequent, how do you fight an ideology?
 
There's more.

Another of the user's (the French guy, not the Reddit one) posts:




Also a picture of one of those possibly responsible:

1447483548-img-20151114-074427.jpg


'When you see this photograph on BFM, it will be too late'

BFM is a French news station.

He then tweeted:



Laughing with the caption 'What I have to say?'


This is why people shouldn't post suspects unless from a official source.

So why the feck was he tweeting when it was taking place?

Next time don't post pictures of innocent people unless you have a official source. Not bullshit from Reddit.
 
At least 120 dead now according to Sky news.
 
It's insanse that people kill other people in the name of God.

Im angry that people use religion, which should be a platform for better life, peace, cooperation to inject fear, horror and suffering to other people lifes.

My thoughts and prayers with those who died, got injured or lost their loved ones yesterday.
 
Really is scary stuff. It's so hard to fight a enemy that doesn't want to survive, just created as much carnage as possible.

I fear these attacks will become more frequent, how do you fight an ideology?

I do not want casue shit storm but radical Islam seems to be a common denominator for IS, terrorist attacts in France etc.

Without casuing too much of hindrance for normal Muslims i think the state should really listen what religious leaders say. If they call for violence they should be kicked out of normal society.

I know few Musilms, normal people i'd say. More some of them are fantastic people, whom i hold in the highest regard (our own Sultan for that instance) but really we should stop predenting that radical Islam is not a threat for Europe.
 
I do not want casue shit storm but radical Islam seems to be a common denominator for IS, terrorist attacts in France etc.

Without casuing too much of hindrance for normal Muslims i think the state should really listen what religious leaders say. If they call for violence they should be kicked out of normal society.

I know few Musilms, normal people i'd say. More some of them are fantastic people, whom i hold in the highest regard (our own Sultan for that instance) but really we should stop predenting that radical Islam is not a threat for Europe.

Who doesn't consider it to be a threat ?
 
Can't believe what's happened...

2 days ago our community announced a football tournament would be held in Paris this year, the first outside England. Our team were all excited to go and see Paris, talking good things about the city.

Literally within hours of our conversations the city has turned upside down. It's horrible.

I really hate the ones who are responsible. Why kill innocent people? Why kill unarmed women and children?

Absolute cowards.

yep :( i have every sympathy.

unfortunately there will be a similar number of idiots who identify all muslims as the root problem and cause of all the evil done on nights like this and will retaliate.

People need to identify that 85% of deaths caused by ISIS are to Muslims. They need to realise that there are 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide where 99.9% of them hate ISIS probably more so than the western world.

These people are not Muslim. They can say scripture from the Quran all they want. They don't understand anything. They've some how been brain washed and used as pawns by the people in power of ISIS or whatever. It's disgusting.
 
Leta ask US to feck off from the middle East for a start. They have destabilized the region and we (Europe) pay the price.
To be truthful the region has been unstable for centuries and us Europeans are just as implicit at the moment if not more so than the US.
 
Can't believe what's happened...

2 days ago our community announced a football tournament would be held in Paris this year, the first outside England. Our team were all excited to go and see Paris, talking good things about the city.

Literally within hours of our conversations the city has turned upside down. It's horrible.

I really hate the ones who are responsible. Why kill innocent people? Why kill unarmed women and children?

Absolute cowards.



People need to identify that 85% of deaths caused by ISIS are to Muslims. They need to realise that there are 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide where 99.9% of them hate ISIS probably more so than the western world.

These people are not Muslim. They can say scripture from the Quran all they want. They don't understand anything. They've some how been brain washed and used as pawns by the people in power of ISIS or whatever. It's disgusting.

It is pointless to try to understand them. I mean I am Muslim and I tried before to really grasp the process by which killing innocent people grants you Paradise and God's favors. It is truly mad how people get brainwashed into killing themselves and by making as much victims as possible.
 
Was it really unstable in 70 and 80's? Apart from few Israel releated incidents it wasnt that bad.
Is this some kind of joke?

That's the decade when Iran and Iraq were literally at war and Islam's holiest site The Grand Mosque was under seige from insurgents.
 
Was it really unstable in 70 and 80's? Apart from few Israel releated incidents it wasnt that bad.
Yes and it was during the height of the times when the US-European backed dictators were in power. The middle east problems goes back centuries, the current situation on the political scale can be traced back to the end of the ottoman empire. The religious issues, rivalries, violence go back even further.

A lot of this may seem new but the issues are centuries old.

What is new that we have to face is that worldwide travel and communications are now a lot easier and this bringing their attacks to our major cities is now a factor. What also became new in the last century is the wealth of the resources in the region which allowed them to fund their ethics and culture whilst purchasing arms on a level unattainable before.
 
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Lots of people here are blaming Islam or religion for it. If People are violent then their interpretation of religion will be violent as well. This has more to do with the poverty instability and deprivation in the middle east than with religion. Buddhists in myanmmar, Hindus in certain regions of india , Christians in Africa are extremely violent as well. This violence hasnt touched your lives therefore the focus naturally shifts to only one religion. If you find yourself gravitating towards an anti-Islamic mindset then you are doing exactly what the terrorists want. They want to polarize people. Its a recruitment tool.
 
Over 150 dead. People becoming numb to this kind of violence is the biggest worry. Reminds me of the Bombay attacks, well coordinated mayhem.
 
Lots of people here are blaming Islam or religion for it. If People are violent then their interpretation of religion will be violent as well. This has more to do with the poverty instability and deprivation in the middle east than with religion. Buddhists in myanmmar, Hindus in certain regions of india , Christians in Africa are extremely violent as well. This violence hasnt touched your lives therefore the focus naturally shifts to only one religion. If you find yourself gravitating towards an anti-Islamic mindset then you are doing exactly what the terrorists want. They want to polarize people. Its a recruitment tool.
Of course we have to blame Islam,in some or other way,lack of strength in local authorities to stop the problem,some mistakes in educational level or laws,if in a country you can get death penalty or prison for heresy then is quite normal that this happens.Not even the most aggresive buddhist or christian cult could imagine this carnage.
 
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My firend, Polish press is full of bollox like that. One prominent left wing politician said "lets take as many immigrants as possible and if they become terrorist then we should start worrying."

Im not saying that all migrants are terrorists (far from it).
You are lucky that the left there are at least saying that much. The left in India only prefer to turn complete blind eye towards radical Islam.
 
This is shocking and absolutely horrendous. My thoughts are with all the innocent people involved in this horrific barbaric attack.
 
Oh so you must be someone who thinks if Islam didn't exist then all these problems would suddenly disappear? Don't be naive. And I have family that's muslim but I'm not religious at all, mainly because it's all a load of boring bs basically. It's just I know that it doesn't promote violence and very much condemns it. Sure it has it's questionable views on stuff, but I very much doubt that those quotes are in any way real.
Those quotes are real. And there are many other quotes.

Obviously, some verses are ambiguos and can be interpreted in many ways. Like the verse is valid in case Muslims got attacked etc. But they are real. And being subject to interpretation, they can give psychos all they need in order to justify their actions.

Anyway, saying that this has nothing to do with Islam, in my opinion is like saying Crusades have nothing to do with Catholicism or gun laws have nothing to do with mass shooting in US. I understand that the majority of Muslims don't want this, but then the same can be said for pretty much every destructive ideology. I always thought that Islam needs a reform, but then pretty much every Muslim will say 'no, that is out of the question', and then claim that these type of terrorist acts have nothing to do with Islam.
 
Those quotes are real. And there are many other quotes.

Obviously, some verses are ambiguos and can be interpreted in many ways. Like the verse is valid in case Muslims got attacked etc. But they are real. And being subject to interpretation, they can give psychos all they need in order to justify their actions.

Anyway, saying that this has nothing to do with Islam, in my opinion is like saying Crusades have nothing to do with Catholicism. I understand that the majority of Muslims don't want this, but then the same can be said for pretty much every destructive ideology. I always thought that Islam needs a reform, but then pretty much every Muslim will say 'no, that is out of the question', and then claim that these type of terrorist acts have nothing to do with Islam.

Reforming Islam or whatever will have zero bearing on the minority of maniacs committing terrorist attacks. It would be the wrong solution for a real problem.
 
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