OT EVACUATED | Device signed as having been recovered, could NOT be detected by sniffer dogs
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I agree but I think most people have used the word embarrassing or a joke because they genuinely feel embarrassed for the club, whether the club are only 1% to blame we are a huge global brand and no one will really give two fecks about the security firms negligence they will just hear that a lifelike bomb has been living inside OT for four days without anyone noticing until prior to today's kickoff. It certainly doesn't paint the club in a good light despite the obviously brilliantly handled Evacuation.
Seriously linking it to us being shit on the pitch is ridiculous of course but I doubt most on here are truLy doing that, just venting I'd imagine. Anyway we all have a right to our own opinions rightly or wrongly but the Caf is a tad angry these days, lots of abuse being thrown back and forth, surely that is all van Gaals fault of course
No need to be a terse little cnut.
Stobz were you the guy who was meant to count up the fake bombs at the end?
We all get things wrong man, one only has to look briefly at your posting history to see that.
Just had an email:
After a game/event yes, in between games/events probably notWait a minute.....
Does this mean the toilets at the ground are never cleaned?!?
Well when the information starts coming from the police/govt about tracking down those who planted it, well the cover story would be blown.
And? When the training exercise finished, why weren't all the devices accounted for?
Take your own advice.
While I think Stan is a bit mad and he's probably losing the main point in his tweets, butI do agree that more questions need to be asked.
Stan Collymore's Twitter feed is probably (only just) more entertaining than the Caf' at the moment. Check it out.
Couldn't this fiasco have happened at soccer aid to spare me the pain of watching Olly fecking Murs!
It's not like the apprentice electrician left his screwdriver behind is it. I'm sure whoever was at fault gets paid a lot of money for the responsibility they take on and so they should pay when being totally incompetent.
It didn't have to be one of the two. There is nothing great about what happened. It's embarrassing and the result of some serious incompetence.
It's not like the apprentice electrician left his screwdriver behind is it. I'm sure whoever was at fault gets paid a lot of money for the responsibility they take on and so they should pay when being totally incompetent.
The individual responsible should be dealt with by that company, i've said that repeatedly.
Somehow I sense a low turnout coming up on Tuesday.
The club is going to need some good news to bury this crap very soon..
The club is going to need some good news to bury this crap very soon..
fair play to the club - its a massive feck up but at least they have moved quickly to make it right.
The security company that placed the fake device must be completely incompetent if they do not make an inventory at the end of their tests. Then again, seems to be a lot of incompetency around the club since Woody took the helm.
But with the training exercise story, it ends the whole thing there. No witch hunt or panic.
I agree with that, but they would never be too certain. If they see a bomb looking thing, they're not just going to assume it was the security firm leaving it behind. They're not going to attempt to move it because of that too.
The security firm should potentially have realised their mistake and rang up when it was on national news, but even then there's no way of 100% verifying it was them and not evacuating the stadium.
The only criticism I have of the club and their security employees is not seeing it in the toilet if it was, like reported, in there for 4 days @.Rossi. I'm not sure how they didn't, but I can only assume there was a reason. It's poor from them, but the way they dealt with it all at the time was perfect.
Who knows, maybe the whole thing was a part of the external companies plan and the United security lot passed the test
Reported as "taped to back of a toilet door". If true, would like to think that'd get noticed?
I agree with that, but they would never be too certain. If they see a bomb looking thing, they're not just going to assume it was the security firm leaving it behind. They're not going to attempt to move it because of that too.
The security firm should potentially have realised their mistake and rang up when it was on national news, but even then there's no way of 100% verifying it was them and not evacuating the stadium.
The only criticism I have of the club and their security employees is not seeing it in the toilet if it was, like reported, in there for 4 days @.Rossi. I'm not sure how they didn't, but I can only assume there was a reason. It's poor from them, but the way they dealt with it all at the time was perfect.
Who knows, maybe the whole thing was a part of the external companies plan and the United security lot passed the test
You ring the company and ask:" Could you describe your fake device, please?", "Okay, I think that we found it".
embarrasing end to an embarresing season.
This thread.
No mate
"If you don't have the cloakroom ticket, you're not getting it back mate"
Regardless of who's fault it was, the media and rest of football will look at this as yet another embarrassing incident for us. We're threatening to become synonymous with mishaps and blunders under Woodward, which is made all the worse that he looks rather comedic and is likely to stick by a bumbling, rambling clown of a manager. If we're not careful, our reputation is going to become something of a joke over the next few months
Can you imagine the dope's face when it occurred to him what was happening was his fault?!
How are any of us surprised by this? The supposed 'security' staff checking punters going into the ground all year are a joke. Not criticising those kids but if they are representative of the type of 'security' the club employs I'm sad to say we'd all be better off policing ourselves.
Lets just say that if today was a genuine bomb threat and they did want to cover it up, i couldn't have thought up a better story myself to end the fear and panic it could cause.
It is definitely in all parties interests to not publicise a genuine bomb threat at Old Trafford. Plus, if ISIS were behind it, for example, they wouldn't want them to get the media exposure that they would have wanted.
It is definitely in all parties interests to not publicise a genuine bomb threat at Old Trafford. Plus, if ISIS were behind it, for example, they wouldn't want them to get the media exposure that they would have wanted.
Great bar story further down the line though.
"Hey Clive remember when you got 80,000 people evacuated from a Premier League game, bellend"
Agreed. It was very thorough the first game after the Paris attacks but since then the pat downs are a slight tickle under the arms and away you go.
To be honest you can't pin this one on just one person. Unlike what seems to be the consensus here, I think the situation was dealt with terribly. Of course they'll evacuate when they see something suspicious, nothing about that shows special handling of the situation. What's terrible is though:
1- The "bomb" was there for four days, and nobody discovered it.
2- They even let all the fans in before they "discovered it".
3- They failed miserably to identify what it was, even though they planted it there themselves (talking about the security as a collective system to deal with attacks). That was really poor when it comes to communication/collecting information. Did they really neutralize it by a controlled explosion in the end as well??
4- The original training failed miserably, and "one person fecked up" only cements the fact that the whole training failed as whole. How can you not know how many "bombs" you planted and where they are? In these situations you can't blame one guy for the whole feck up. Where is the other team who check and double check everything?
If this was a real attack we'd be looking at a tragedy here. The only positive that could come out of this probably is exposing this incompetence so everybody gets their sh*t together before something really bad happens.
Except the police are already involved so they would continue investigating if the evidence did not support the "cover up". The cops would be unlikely to let a real terror attempt go.
Some strange reaction to what can only be very, very good news. Good because this confirms that on this occasion, Old Trafford was not the subject of attempted terrorism or a very malicious hoax, and that the 'device' was not snuck through match day security.
The idea that the club should be embarrassed today, when in reality they discovered the 'device', albeit when fans were already in the ground, were presented with what was at face value a legitimate bomb threat and handled it excellently by all accounts. The responsibility absolutely must be on the external company who, thanks to the nature of their business, must account for all of their equipment when they leave.
Honesty, I'm just very relieved that it wasn't in reality anything malicious, because for a while it really looked like it could have been.
The idea that the club should be embarrassed today, when in reality they discovered the 'device', albeit when fans were already in the ground, were presented with what was at face value a legitimate bomb threat and handled it excellently by all accounts. The responsibility absolutely must be on the external company who, thanks to the nature of their business, must account for all of their equipment when they leave.
Honesty, I'm just very relieved that it wasn't in reality anything malicious, because for a while it really looked like it could have been.
But they don't have to make it public. I doubt they make all their Intel public.