OT EVACUATED | Device signed as having been recovered, could NOT be detected by sniffer dogs

He added the device left behind had a small white label with "training aid" written on it and it was not concealed.

"There was something found, they dealt with it in the way they should have done. Whether they should have found it earlier is another issue"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36307246
 
very possibly done this one - it's a joke !!! which is quite :lol:, I think

''the bomb was going to blow up but Sir Alex Ferguson got into the face of the detonation clock & persuaded it to add on another eight minutes''
 
Greater Manchester Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Lloyd earlier said: "This fiasco caused massive inconvenience to supporters who had come from far and wide to watch the match, wasted the time of huge numbers of police officers and the Army's bomb squad, and unnecessarily put people in danger, as evacuating tens of thousands of people from a football stadium is not without risk.

"Whilst this in no way demeans the professionalism of the police and stewards responsible for getting the fans out, or the supporters' calmness and co-operation during the evacuation, it is unacceptable that it happened in the first place."
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Just about sums it up. United dealt with it as they should have done and as we all would have wanted them to, whereas the security firm were too sloppy in their work.

Considering the importance of their work with regard to the threats we face in the country this lapse in professionalism is particularly unacceptable. Makes one wonder...If they have been slack with these "training aids" what else have they been slack with. When so many lives are at risk every day it's important we use only the best security firms and the best staff. I know that sounds harsh but the risk of using lax firms is just a risk too far.
 
While you'd have to be a bit mental to phone the number left on a bomb attached to a phone, you'd think they'd have at least Googled it or checked it with their records...

Either way, we live in a world where you can't even trust counter terrorist personnel not to be terrorists, so in that regard the responsibility is ultimately that of this moron who left it there. The club was put in an impossible situation with kick off minutes away from the discovery.
 
It sound like the structure is that United hire a security/dog team. They're on a regular contract with us, and are responsible for some aspects of stadium security. They, as part of training deliberately used a third party specialist company to set up some challenges.

The specialists forget to take their devices home, despite signing to say they had. The dog security team who hired them didn't go round with them and do a crosscheck afterwards, or they did but the specialist trainer had forgotten to tell them about that device, just like he forgot to take it home.

Because the device didn't contain active explosives the dogs didn't pick up anything when they did the pre-match stadium search.

The humans who did the search didn't notice it because it was on the back of the toilet door and people forget that doors have backs.

Is it United's fault? Well, yeah, they're in that chain. Whether because of who they hired or how they train them or how much time they give them to do the job. The ironic thing is that I can imagine the dog firm were acting under orders from United to have an external consultant/audit done to prove the team were in good shape.

I can imagine a few lawyers having a good feed on the back of this.
 
No matter how you want to spin i think United's reputation is should not be affected. The whole thing showed how well organized the club is, how seriously we treat safety, how many layers of security we manage.

Unfortunate development but a valuable lesson for all clubs.
 
JustAFan said:
You do know that being late for 2 games had ZERO to do with anything the club did right? I mean are we supposed to control London traffic, prevent other people from getting in accidents, then control where the cops direct the bus? Or are we supposed to control the West Ham fans? I mean come on, both those incidents were not caused by us.
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Err we're the only club that has to deal with London traffic?!
Amateur
 
Ps so they train the dogs with a device that isn't viable (hence couldn't be picked up with an actual dog search)? Am confused.
 
Member 5225 said:
Ps so they train the dogs with a device that isn't viable (hence couldn't be picked up with an actual dog search)? Am confused.
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I think the training was done for the benefit of the handlers and not the dogs, therefore no actual explosives were required for the exercise.
 
Whoever deleted that post I was just winding him up, but imagine getting all ballsy and intimidating like that over nothing?
 
SqueakyWeasel said:
You answer my reply of 16:40 at 04:20, almost 12 hours later, with the benefit of hindsight! My whole point was that, at the time I wrote it, there had been absolutely no official statement or comment from the club, the police or any other "official" network, even the SKY pundits had been evacuated to the car park of OT. So, as I said in my message I would rather wait for confirmation than react to a one-off report from any TV network (American or otherwise), or Twitter blogger, that a "suspicious package" had been found. Turns out it wasn't a "package" anyway so I was proved to be right.
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I don't spend my free time on this sight so I will respond when I login. But if proving yourself right is an absolute must then have at it. Insecure much?
 
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