OT EVACUATED | Device signed as having been recovered, could NOT be detected by sniffer dogs

I'm sorry but in retrospect the fact we brought in the military for a controlled explosion because of a forgotten decoy that has been left for FOUR days, finally noticed by some bloke taking a piss is just :lol:

Has Woody signed Zippos Circus as a sponsor yet?
 
Can't believe how negative everyone is being. It's 19 goals, not 2 million

De Gea
Fellaini - Herrera
Valencia - Januzaj - Rooney - Young
Mata - Rashford - Martial - Depay
 
This is a big feck up by the security company, the club can only blamed for the fact that it's been there since Tuesday, but then again i'm not sure how often do they do security checks anyway.

In the spirit of the club let's not terminate our contract with them, it's better to evaluate when it's over.
 
How can a security company be so stupid? Planting fake bombs then forgetting the removal part :lol:

£3m mistake
 
Livewire1974 said:
Surely a photo of the "device" was sent around to numerous people so a call could be made what to do with it? Beyond belief that it was not spotted that it was a fake from a test run.
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I am pretty sure that under the procedures for dealing with a suspected bomb the "send picture of device to everyone" is not high on the list of things to do. Plus you are assuming that it would be an obvious fake, which considering the bomb disposal unit did a controlled detonation as a safety precaution we can guess it might not have been an obvious test device.

endless_wheelies said:
Weird that it didn't occur to anyone "hey, we had that training exercise on Tuesday, maybe this bomb that is in the exact same place as the training one and looks exactly the same as the training one is one of the training ones"
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You are assuming that it was widely known where the test bombs were hidden , when it was just a likely the opposite was true.
 
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Ole's_toe_poke said:
Can someone sum up the last few pages for me?

As I understand, we planted it ourselves?
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Nah, it was an external company I think. As far as I can see, all we did was let the clowns have run of Old Trafford and then fail to find the fake bomb they left behind for four days. Which is bad but not quite as bad as us planting our own fake bombs and then forgetting about them.
 
sullydnl said:
Nah, it was an external company I think. As far as I can see, all we did was let the clowns have run of Old Trafford and then fail to find the fake bomb they left behind for four days. Which is bad but not quite as bad as us planting our own fake bombs and then forgetting about them.
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Amateurs.

Did Fergie run the security team too? It's like the whole club has become a farce since he left.
 
Not sure how the security company forgot about this device and I'm not sure how we miss it doing a pre-match sweep. Very amateurish and negligent. Good job all around from the security/police & stewards.

With the match being on Tuesday at 8pm, I would rest anyone that is going to start vs Palace.

Rest them all.

Johnstone
Varela, Mensah, Jones, CBJ
Pereira, Schneiderlin, Herrera
Mata, Memphis, Young
 
So amidst all the shit that happened today, not one person that was part of the security training didn't come forward and say it was a prop from the training and may have been left behind? A nobody from the grounds staff can put two and two together? Someone's job is going to be on the line. Hope the company has insurance.
 
So the security team fecked up, so what? I say we only sack them once it's impossible to reach top four.
 
I know a steward at OT and he says that the stadium is check completely before anybody is let in , that includes the loos.
They will know who the steward is that missed it, but to be fair, would he be looking for something like that ?
I have worked security for a long time and when checks are done you look for something unusual, but even so I am not sure I would of found it
 
peridigm said:
So amidst all the shit that happened today, not one person that was part of the security training didn't come forward and say it was a prop from the training and may have been left behind? A nobody from the grounds staff can put two and two together? Someone's job is going to be on the line. Hope the company has insurance.
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It wouldn't matter if they did. You don't just drop protocol because someone says "oh that's one of our decoys". When you have 80,000 people to think of you go for the safest route.

Imagine being the guy that says "well it did look like one of ours, and Dave from Delta 7 said it probably was".
 
peridigm said:
So amidst all the shit that happened today, not one person that was part of the security training didn't come forward and say it was a prop from the training and may have been left behind? A nobody from the grounds staff can put two and two together? Someone's job is going to be on the line. Hope the company has insurance.
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Perhaps the people involved in the training were not shown the device today? You act like everyone should have known it was a dummy device right from the start, Which is an assumption that you have no idea is true.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
I know a steward at OT and he says that the stadium is check completely before anybody is let in , that includes the loos.
They will know who the steward is that missed it, but to be fair, would he be looking for something like that ?
I have worked security for a long time and when checks are done you look for something unusual, but even so I am not sure I would of found it
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A lot is going to depend on where it was and was it somewhere the stewards were trained to check.
 
m1tch said:
What an absolute shambles. It's astonishing how incompetent people can be. Wonder who's pocket the cost of this will come out of? I guess against failure to qualify for the champions league it's not much, nor against the loss of adidas money if we get a repeat next year, but it'd not be an insignificant amount.
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Shambles is a good word but these 'calamities' are adding up and what should have been the easisest run in has turned into a catastrophe. There is no sign of anyone taking a grip like Gill or Fergie of old when we almost drifted off the path. Sponsors don't see calamities as fate or chance but a sign of how well the club is being managed. A good side rides its luck and generates its fate as Fergie so often proved. This series of calamities points to too many chiefs, not enough good people in the areas that matter, and sloppy admin. The football has also rapidly declined from boring to ineffective rubbish. The squad could be described as a shambles because we have no indication of when the rebuilding and building will be completed. There is no leadership on the field and no leadership from OT. All the while LVG is telling us our expectations are too high, which in itself has become almost a curse to everyone's morale. I had thought last week were eerily looking like 1970, now I fear we're drifting towards 1971-72. These are dangerous times, and this kind of sloppy complacency can turn an entire club upside down.
 
People are aware that we contract our security out to a firm called CES?

Criticising United for this error is a bit ridiculous, the club is as much a victim of this incompetence as Bournemouth.
 
It's a bit worrying the device went undetected until after the stadium filled up. Be interesting to know how long it went unnoticed.
 
kps88 said:
It's a bit worrying the device went undetected until after the stadium filled up. Be interesting to know how long it went unnoticed.
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I should imagine it was found by a fan needing a slash.
 
You really just have to laugh. A bomb left behind from some security drill, means they have to actually do the real thing. Someone has got some serious explaining to do, rather hard to forget to collect all the 'bombs' after a drill.
 
I've got the email saying they will refund the tickets and to reply if I think I can't attend. Some poor sod will have to go through about 10-20,000 emails today for people not attending.

It was tense at the time and a bit silly in hindsight but this is definitely the best possible scenario for what caused yesterday's evacuation. It's much better than an actual threat or something genuinely being smuggled in and it will likely lead to even further security checks in future. And now our staff and stadium have experience evacuating the entire stadium on a match-day which is something that would have been impossible to train for. Very stupid mistake, shoudn't have happened, will cost us lots of money but hopefully a few positives come out of it.

dwd said:
Fergie would've checked those toilets himself. In fact, I reckon LVG had a shit in one of the stalls and walked right past it.
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:lol:
 
Dargonk said:
You really just have to laugh. A bomb left behind from some security drill, means they have to actually do the real thing. Someone has got some serious explaining to do, rather hard to forget to collect all the 'bombs' after a drill.
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And it went unnoticed till a member of staff went into those toilets 20 minutes before kick off.
 


George: Hey Sid, haven't you evacuated?
Sid: Why George?

Rooney: Guys we have a problem. There seem to be a suspicious package at OT, it may be a bomb
Giggs: Does the manager know?
Evra: What the feck I am doing here? I am with Juve now
Giggs: What do the fans say about it? Do they want me to take LVG's job now?
Rooney, touches his cheek: They say, that's the only exciting thing that happened at OT for years.
 
Summit said:
I should imagine it was found by a fan needing a slash.
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Fair enough to the club for finding new ways to emberass themselves in the last three years.
 
peridigm said:
So amidst all the shit that happened today, not one person that was part of the security training didn't come forward and say it was a prop from the training and may have been left behind? A nobody from the grounds staff can put two and two together? Someone's job is going to be on the line. Hope the company has insurance.
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I don't think you can insure against stupidity!
 
dwd said:
Fergie would've checked those toilets himself. In fact, I reckon LVG had a shit in one of the stalls and walked right past it.
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With all due respect but this is an unacceptable! SAF was known for delegating the work to his staff who were all up to the task. Why do you think we employed the likes of Martin Ferguson and Phelan in the first place?
 
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